QUOTE(brutalsoul @ Sep 11 2013, 12:40 AM)
Is water heater safe to use?
Is water heater safe to use?
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Sep 11 2013, 12:47 AM
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Sep 11 2013, 01:38 PM
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Sep 11 2013, 01:50 PM
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I seen all instant water heater has change to gray rubber piping instead of aluminium.
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Sep 11 2013, 01:51 PM
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Sep 11 2013, 08:06 PM
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Sep 12 2013, 11:14 AM
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Sep 13 2013, 11:21 AM
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I think if the installer install properly won't happen like this. BTW your kid drawing very nice.
QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 13 2013, 11:15 AM) From my bullshit analyses, the earth wire should have connection. 1) All the heater have a earth fault light that tell you earth wire connection is ok or not. So I guess the earth wire is not a problem. 2) There is 2 device to protect from the DB and the heater itself. Is it that consequences, 2 device spoil at the same time? This is not Final Destination movie. So it is probably the current didn't go through the E wire when the heater is leaking. Both device didn't sense the current from the E wire. That is why it didn't trip. The ELCB is an outdate device. It will only trip when sense current on the E wire. So what about in this scenario 1) When the current leak to your body than to ground? It is not leaking to E wire? This is probably what happen to the japanese couple. 2) When the E wire broken or disconnect? 3) When secondary ground in the same place? Example a pipe is connect with the E wire. Pipe also run into ground and become earth rod. If current go through the pipe to the ground, ELCB won't be able to sense it. Our home now should be using RCD/RCCB instead of ELCB. If any of your home still using ELCB, better change to RCD/RCCB. In additional, you can install another 1 near your heater. Don't trust your heater ELCB. It make of electronic which is not reliable when age. Apologize for my kid drawing. ![]() |
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Sep 13 2013, 01:51 PM
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use storage can install this unit too?
QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 13 2013, 01:05 PM) The RCD/RCCB should be able to protect this kind of problem. Incase E wire doesn't do the job. All the house now should using RCD/RCCB. Try check your DB box that you always call ELCB. I m using istant water heater. And I knew I cannot rely on the heater elcb. That left my house just 1 device to protect from the DB box. So I install another RCD in the bathroom ontop the heater. Here is the RCD device that I install ontop the heater inside the bathroom. It exactly for prevent electrocution and suitable for bathroom which wet enviroment. Can be use for anything. ![]() ![]() |
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Sep 13 2013, 08:23 PM
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You have do best way. I also suggest don't use till end the instant water heater.
QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 13 2013, 05:32 PM) Manufacture will produce product with minimal basic security, any add on will required more $$$ and transfer the cost to consumer. Even with state of the art technology, no one can prevent accident. I do agree the manufacture need to look into another design. But if I recall, my mom house water heater can't be switch on if the earth are faulty and this are basic things. I remember this when I wire the water heater and forgot to wire the earth. Since I am going to change the heater soon (after 5 years), i shall do another test again. BTW, I change instant water heater every 5 - 6 years. That another preventive maintenance I do. |
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Sep 17 2013, 09:17 AM
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Not all can afford using tank water heater.
QUOTE(hackwire @ Sep 16 2013, 11:30 PM) The best solution for now is not to buy any wall type water heater but invest at least in a water heater tank type. That itself reduce the possiblities of electrocution. Whether its malaysia made or not, its still a phobia whenever u pick up the shower handles. just tell me how many of you are now thinking of that japanese guy when you are showering now? I bet, you must b thinking, when will it happen to me next? |
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Sep 18 2013, 12:23 PM
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can suggest which one suitable for storage?
QUOTE(stevie8 @ Sep 18 2013, 12:08 PM) This will look neat. Come with fuse as RCD will not trip when there is a overload of current. The fuse is a overload safety point. [attachmentid=3634613] You can use this as a switch. Press the reset (on) as you go into the bathroom taking shower. Out of bathroom finished showering press the test button(off). In a way you are testing it every time you come out of your shower, and will never forget to test. |
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Sep 18 2013, 01:35 PM
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Sep 18 2013, 01:58 PM
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I found out this don't know suitable or not. But price not cheap.
http://my.element14.com/timeguard/tfp10wl/...hite/dp/1642925 QUOTE(setheo @ Sep 18 2013, 01:44 PM) This post has been edited by petlu28: Sep 18 2013, 01:59 PM |
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Sep 18 2013, 05:00 PM
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Go so cheap meh? Please refer this link.
http://my.element14.com/timeguard/tfp10wl/...hite/dp/1642925 QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Sep 18 2013, 04:54 PM) |
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Sep 18 2013, 05:07 PM
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If you find out cheaper than this price pls share here.
QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Sep 18 2013, 05:03 PM) I saw, RM 225.00 I am going to look around later, see see if can find a cheap, good one... if cannot find then expensive a bit also buy la... at least I dont have to worry about getting electrocuted while taking hot shower liao... then again the question come, is RM 225 or 500 worth to risk our life? no rite? |
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