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ozak
post Feb 16 2017, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 16 2017, 08:51 AM)
Yes, planned to install RCCB in DB for water heater.
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The DB already have a rccb. Why install another 1 that so near?

The extra rccb for heater is mean to install as near as possible to the heater side.
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post Feb 16 2017, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(sharethebest @ Feb 16 2017, 12:50 PM)
In Malaysia, this type of unit is available by some electrician.

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I guess it is the cheapest way. biggrin.gif

As long as it work, it is okay. Safety 1st.

There is few way to make it nice. All is in the back post. But of course price will be expensive a bit.

I prefer the nicer way. blush.gif

In US, those appliances using high power like heater, hair dryer, aircon etc, the 2pin plug is equip with the rccd. So the appliances that they buy have the rccd built into the plug. This is a good idea to protect you and the device from fire.

This is a aircon plug.
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post Feb 16 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(imoogi99 @ Feb 16 2017, 05:21 PM)
Normally the DB rccb is at 30mA and not the 10mA type.  So the extra RCCB for heater should be installed next to the heater switch? If this is the case, then it will need a mini DB box for this kind of RCCB.
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It should be install next to the heater plug or direct point.

You can use sharethebest picture way or nicer way at the back of the post.
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post Feb 17 2017, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(imoogi99 @ Feb 16 2017, 11:52 PM)
http://www.rinnai.com.my/product/category/9/64

Is this Rinnai brand of water heater is the only instance water heater that comes with RCD? Even the popular brand like Alpha are having ELCB only.

http://www.alpha-electric.com/showroom_smart-series_18i.html

Any technical guys can confirm this?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3413210?hl=rinnai
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post Jun 27 2017, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Octopuz @ Jun 27 2017, 10:52 PM)
hi all,

i have elcb installed beside WH switch n-th years back (refer to attached pic):
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May i know whether i should replace it to RCCB with 10mA sensitivity?
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That is rccb too.

If change 10mA might too sensitive. 30mA should be alright.
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post Jun 28 2017, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Jun 28 2017, 03:49 AM)
a 10mA RCD will save a life..

at 230V 30mA AC 50Hz can still kill a smaller sized individual..
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The heater have another set of rccb of 10mA.

You might just need a 30mA less sensitive for a nuisance trip.
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post Feb 25 2018, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Feb 25 2018, 09:26 PM)
Hi need advise here. Last year my newly installed water heater caused my mcb to make loud buzzing sound when turn on. As suggested by ozak, i ask electrician to change mcb and the sound stop. And today, after 1year, i just noticed that the buzzing sound coming back but it was less noise compare to previous. So was it normal or is there any other issue causing mcb to keep getting spoilt?
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It is not getting spoil but the contact inside the MCB dirty. It cover with carbon which cause the static jump between. That cause the buzzer sound.

Do you always ON/OFF the MCB ?

Try ask the electrician check the wire secure to the mcb correctly. Screw tightly the wire on the mcb. Loose wire may cause the same problem.

Change to more good quality mcb.

Makesure the MCB rate at C20 (20A).
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post Feb 26 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Feb 26 2018, 12:32 PM)
Ok, will request my eletrician to change & secure properly. Is there any other possibilites that might causing this? Btw, the water heater adapter was split out from the fridge adapter. Would this be root cause?
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It is better for the heater to run the wiring separately. I not sure will this cause by the fridge.

You can try to run the fridge separately by another wall socket. For a yrs and see what happen.

You never heard people have such problem with MCB only for heater.

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