right, i'm currently trying to enlarge my core team in building my real real technically challenging product with huge untapped market, with demand.

i'll not disclose what i am about to do but i do get investors in funding this project and require real experienced network experts (in terms of internet protocol) and programmer that are good in JAVA, PHP and ASP.

Please take note that you would be carrying out R&D (research and development) on new stuff, nothing simple on this.

if you are interested, please call me directly, 0192679338, just call me wheimeng. we will have a tea session or something, no email / pm, i prefer doing this ASAP. again, only experienced and readily to take sky high challenges with mind in venturing own career candidates.

don't waste my time trying to ask what i'm about to do. before calling in, you are should be interested in what i'm doing even though you don't know.

are you paying for tea session then ?

haha, well, i'm fine with that if you're a good candidate

no network experts? -.- particularly in ipv6?

where are your company situated anyways?

ok, i think i need to clarify more.

this company isn't incorporated yet even, however, the idea has brought up to the investor and very interested in forming it.

it is definitely going, and you dont need to jump over until the investment fund has been secured.

Any more sms or calls for me?

you should at least give some more information. at least what industry is it in.

no one knows what the hell are you going to start..... how to respond?

its like me (a total stranger to you) asking you out for a drink, because i want to tell you something that you don't even know what it is, or if you're interested in or not. would you come?

well, apparently it should be in the ICT industry. with programmer and network engineers, should be a program that deals with networking, in large scale.

if you need to know more, call me, it's not a good idea to disclose publicly.

or contact me on uu247@hotmail.com, MSN

bump! anymore?

i'll help to bump up your topic, whei...

to me, 90% i will come and check what's all about of this great opportunity.
the remaining 10% will be certain circumstances of unable to do so.

sometiems strangers talk can land you into a gold pot luck.
no harm trying.

in fact, i am been doing that for many years.

Investors willing or will pump in resources with the project proposal promising of
this and that, but company has not yet to form up...bla..bla..

anyhow, i know what's the outcome will be. been through alot of this.

yea aware of that. i'm currently doing hosting business, ultraunix.net. doing good so far and my next venture has got something to do with hosting as well. it's definitely a promising return and i'm going forward regardless of funding or what-so-ever.

i see, ultraunix, is tim your friend ?

heh, tim? yea, i know him for many years

you haven't introduce yourself.

hey doing ASP for quite sometime a year and half... developed SMS app, e-commerce CMS basically most of online apps..is this a full time of part time job? hey i'm really interested..

This post has been edited by Klesk: Jun 3 2006, 09:05 PM

Wheimeng,

I have no idea who you are and what you are capable of. So, take my observation as someone with a neutral point of view. In general, in USA, the venture capitalist decide to fund or not fund someone more on what the person is and what the person had done than anything else. So, if tommorrow, the creator of Ethernet decide to start something, the venture capitalist will line up to fund him without knowing anything what he will be doing. In fact, they will beg him to take their money.

So, in this case, who you are and what is your track record is more important to anyone thinking of joining you. What you are going to do is less important. If you have never succeeded in doing anything, why should anyone cares about what you will do next?? You have no reputation or creditability.

Another word, so far, you have marketted your venture in a wrong way. People want to join a winning team. They need to know you are winner first before even thinking about whatever you are planning to do.

Dreamer

mmm, in that case, i can ask tim what you are up to.... lol



ERm....is that mean, wheimeng needs to upload his resume/cv so we can view?

Not a full resume / CV but at least something to convince people that they are joining a winning team.

And, WITFM (what in it for me??). Please noted that if someone is a network / programing expert, he/she is probably either have a well paying job or a well paying business. So far, he/she have not say out what will the person gain by talking to him / her. Will they be getting a share in the company or this is just a salaried position aka job?? If this is just a job what should they join you?? Bigger pay?? Bonus??

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jun 4 2006, 02:19 PM

credibility is one thing, idea is another. i'm in the hosting business but definitely not so much of an expert in networking. i've got a partner whom i can rely on in terms of programming (JAVA). as mentioned before, this system would be catered for hosting business and i've the network over in US and frankly, few providers are keen in purchasing my idea if my system is out.

now, a winning team is what we called a balance, all around team where we have strong tech, sales and management team. being excel in any of that does not make you a winning team. i personally would say i'm strong in sales because i know hosting business well and tech is what i'm currently lack of.

so, let say you've developed this and that, you are brilliant but if you run out of great ideas especially when it's very hard to get new idea out in this new era with great market demand, sadly to say, VC would not invest in it, i wonder what were you based on for making that comment. you might have great tech but it is not deployable anytime soon or the market isn't ready to absorb it.

tech knowledge is an edge, eventually everything comes down to sales or i would say, they are mutually dependent.

so what i'm saying now, not arrogant but a fact, do you want to join a winning team or to build your own winning team? the latter is what we called employer and the former, 95% of the people out there, employee.

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Jun 4 2006, 02:31 PM

yes, i'm aware that the talents that i need are in the senior post and they are definitely getting good pay. i have nothing but a challenging job and perhaps equity to offer depending on negotiation.

like i have mentioned, you are building a winning team with me, everything starts from 0, everything is based on consensus. if i'm ok, yea, we have a serious game going on, likewise, continue your agenda.

on salary part, i'm being honest again, for so many times, if you expect higher or same pay (not sure what's your pay), sadly to say, i'm gonna turn you down. but im quite sure, at least it should come near. afterall, it's a new start up, you cant expect too high pay. if your CV is up to my expectation, i can chat with you with no obligation you must build the team with me. but if you see the potential of it, i'm sure a lot people out there would join me for the vision that we share despite the lower pay in short-mid run.

as far as the winner you're talking about, i'm just 23 and managing my business while studying. in 2 yrs, i've got ultraunix.net to be ranked as 23rd in malaysia. i wont say its impressive but at least it marks as a milestone for me and definitely something to be recognized of.

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Jun 4 2006, 02:42 PM

1) Check your ultraunix web site. The demo id is not working..

2) To be precise, you are strong in selling at hosting business. You are NOT strong in selling. If you are really good in selling, you would have realize it like I do, you have NO SALES PITCH in your posting to get people to join you.

3) As per my comment on VC, I have friends working in VC and startups. My brother had started 3 companies in USA and sold two. I worked in this industry for 20 years. And, I am talking about American VC.

4) Okay. People will not be getting high pay and you will expect people to be talented. Now, what do people get in return of participating in your vision??

5) Winning team?? I know it when I see it. Other than that, I cannot describe it.

6) Idea?? I had seen too many great ideas with lousy execution and they failed. And, I had seen so so idea but they had great execution and they evolved into great idea. In general, for a startup, you need to have great sense to know what the market / customers is telling you. You evolve and surf with the wave. You change if your first idea is not working out.

7) Have you read the book "Crossing the chasm"?

Anyhow, I wish you best of luck. If you need my help, pm me.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jun 4 2006, 05:01 PM

1. midst of revamping site.
2. perhaps, but do get few responses.
3. well, not that i'm aware but it might be true.
4. like i said, everything is negotiable, equity or a structured salary
5. that's not possible to show unless we build it.
6. well, talked to few providers, and actually planned the releases and upgrades. but so far the idea has got good response.
7. read the "the soul of a new company" which touches marketing for high tech stuff.

anyway, what's your profession after commenting my posts. i wish to know more about you for you have got a lot of my stuff by now

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Jun 5 2006, 02:20 AM

1) That means you do not have a test server incorporated into your change control process. You did not test your revamping in a test server for a while and then roll the upgrade/revamping into production server. All it takes is a message saying that you are revamping and your demo id is not working now as part of your upgrade process. Do you have a well doucmented upgrade process??

6) In USA, if your idea is good and your creditability is good, the innovative provider/user may even willing to fund yourt venture and be your beta users.

7) "Soul of a company" is not on my reading list. Try "Crossing the chasm", "Innovator dilema", "Seeing what's next".

Unix system administrator, IT System Engineer, Database Application developer, Network Engineer, Telecom software engineer, Sales manager, product manager are among the jobs that I worked before.

I do not believe in profession. I believe in track record and capabilities. Can you sell, market, manage product development, manage people, give advice, design network, design software, business development and so on?? Had you done those things? What is your track record in doing those things?

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jun 5 2006, 07:55 AM

oo, sounds marvellous

well, in terms of designing tech stuff, i've got no experience at all but i've written out a detailed business plan which play a base as a guideline for me and amend over time.

perhaps we can talk about this? anyway, i'm going thru a Malaysia VC, not American.