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post Oct 21 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Oct 21 2013, 12:03 PM)
Just went to kelana Jaya sc.  The technician informed that some devices need to change the motherboard with camera module only can fix the camera issued.

For my case, due to unlock bootloader and my bootloader is s-off status.  they said my warranty are void although the defect was hardware problem.

The motherboard cost rm 6xx!!
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File tribunal. Faulty camera has nothing to do with bootloader. They cannot deny you warranty smile.gif

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post Oct 21 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(zixian96 @ Oct 21 2013, 04:53 PM)
Does it works? I doubt a lot about Malaysia gov's efficiency
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I'm getting my money back already for my HTC One... you say leh... ?
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Oct 21 2013, 06:10 PM)
I called htc operator today. And here is the story they gave to me.

Operator: Hi mr, your phone is at final step means the technician perform the verification.

Me: what is final verification? Have they replace my camera?

Operator: yes they have replaced for you but unfortunately first time not working after the test. Now they have to reopen and fix the problem again because the camera still purple.

Me: ok. Please tell me me the estimate time they will complete the repair

Operator: once your phone is fixed and ready to return back to you, the courier guy will send back to you. The ups guy will call you. Can you call back next Monday? Will provide you status update.
(didnt answer my question. If next week, means third week.  rclxub.gif )

Me: why my phone sent to kelana jaya? But not bts?

Operator: mr, it is based on courier. Different courier different sc.

Me: I will call back end of this week to check status.

Operator: you are welcome sir.
That's it. Means I will have to wait for one more week. But not to get the phone .. Only get latest update.
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Bro I think your phone 3 weeks already? Still delay? Go file tribunal lor, crazy man... phone repair so long! They should just give you a new one.
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post Oct 22 2013, 12:08 AM

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Made with HTC One....



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post Oct 22 2013, 12:34 AM

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Updated..fixed..
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post Oct 22 2013, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 22 2013, 01:10 AM)
OK now let's see it done in the dark - I am sure all turn purple with tiger stripes etc
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LOL, I guess so. You got yours fixed yet? Or you sold yours?
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post Oct 22 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Oct 22 2013, 01:56 PM)
And this is what i replied to HTC.

To be honest, i'm very disappointed with HTC products and the way they managed. The camera tint issued already known as defect from HTC whereby it not caused by the unlocking bootloader.

Please refer statement from a XDA member as below regarding unlocking bootloader does not completely voids the warranty as per your HTC.com statement.

"Now, the question is - why unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty? The answer is very simple. Because HTC's warranty contract doesn't state it. The only information about warranty on htcdev.com you can find is this: Refer Attached Photo.

So, once again: "It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty." Is there any information, that unlocking bootloader voids warranty? Nope. So basically, what does it mean? Only this - if you brick your device as a result of e.g. flashing custom ROM (unlocked bootloader allows you doing that), you may have no warranty claim for that particular incident. Two more important things to conclude: If "not all claims may be covered under warranty", then (logic conversion) some claims may still be covered under warranty.

Even if you can't claim something under warranty because it was caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader, that doesn't mean you have lost your warranty. You still have your warranty and you still can claim under warranty, but this warranty won't cover those particular claims caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader. So basically, HTC warns you, that some of the actions you might take after unlocking the bootloader may lead to a situation, when particular issue can't be covered under warranty.

Also, this information on htcdev.com doesn't expand or restrict your warranty terms. It doesn't change it at all. If warranty is given in the paper form, then as a contract the only way to change it, is a paper form too (if not stated otherwise in the warranty itself). HTC just kindly reminds you some sort of information you can conclude from the warranty itself."


Let see what HTC will reply.
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They will reply you "Sorry warranty is void".

Why waste time, go file tribunal and you will get your money back.

The people handling the HTC CS are all sotongs.

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post Oct 22 2013, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(zixian96 @ Oct 22 2013, 05:42 PM)
Is it a lot of proccess??? And how long does it take to close case?
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https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my

Register a/c = 3 minutes
Complete form and send enquire = 3 minutes

wait for reply = 1 to 2 days

Complete claim form, pay RM5 and send = 10 minutes

Go to the shop you buy from and give them 1 copy of Form 1 and 3 copies of Form 3, get them to chop on your Form 1 = 20 minutes? depends how far is the shop.

Court day will be roughly 2 weeks from the date you file submission.

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Appear in court on the at least 30 minutes the stated time and date, register yourself = 5 minutes
Wait for your turn = 30 minutes
state your case to the judge = 15 minutes give or take
wait for judge to award you your victory = they have to refund you or give you back your phone within a reasonable amount of time as decided by the judge.


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post Oct 22 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(zixian96 @ Oct 22 2013, 07:19 PM)
In the court?so means that I wont be 100% wining in this case then?
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Of course not 100%. But if you have a valid case
e.g. you send repair 1st time for 3 weeks, come back still spoil, you send 2nd time and now 4 weeks they haven't give you back your phone, you will most likely win.

If you never send the phone for repair and demand for a new phone, you definitely won't win.

This world where got anything 100% one. The only sure things in life is death and taxes.

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post Oct 22 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Oct 22 2013, 10:36 PM)
ok here is the replied from HTC ... kinda du lan with replied. refer attachment. I think i will bash HTC and file tribunal case with it. But not sure the winning chance high a not.
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Based on what I read, you will win rclxms.gif
Its only RM5 for file tribunal, no harm trying. The camera issue is a HARDWARE problem.
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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Oct 22 2013, 11:38 PM)
actually mine already flash back to stock and locked the bootloader, but i leave it with S-off (xda member told me that HTC did ship out s-off devices out for testing purposed, so i think just s-off should be ok) and the sc people already recorded my phone are VOID due to S-off and unlock bootloader. If i take back and s-on they still can't repair for me, they mentioned already recorded in their system.  doh.gif
As above mentioned.
Hmmm, ok then i should try my luck, need to debate with HTC representative right ?
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Well, there's no need to debate, you just need HTC to write you to say
1. Your unit has a camera hardware problem
2. Your warranty is void because of ........
3. How much you have to pay to repair the camera hardware problem

You just tell HTC, if they void your warranty, you want it in writing.

AFTER you do that step either a. they give it to you in writing OR b. they don't.

Either way, you have a case with tribunal. With this letter, when you go tribunal, you will win already. Without the letter also you can win, because it is unlawful to void your warranty without a valid reason what. If its void, then they can give black and white stating why, if they cannot give a black and white document stating why then they are denying you warranty that you should rightfully get.

If I sell you a Macbook Air, you delete Mac OS X and install Windows, and the screen spoil, I cannot deny you warranty right?

Same logic bro.

EDIT: And HTC won't dare to lie in court, at least they didn't lie in my case, they admitted the original part number had a hardware issue.

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post Oct 23 2013, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Seng89 @ Oct 23 2013, 12:09 AM)
What they are trying to tell me as per below statement from HTC representative.

"warranty is completely void is the prior statement as stated before customer unlock the bootloader"

just confirmed their statement are "unlocking your device may void all or parts of your warranty". from HTCdev.com
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MAY void all or PARTS of your warranty.

Its MAYBE. Now that you (HTC) say it is void, please state in black and white WHY unlocking bootloader voids the warranty of a physical hardware problem with the camera.

You faham apa saya cakap? Tak faham, nobody can help you, be prepare to be shafted by HTC. You faham, good, now go ask HTC to explain why exactly is the physical camera issue not covered under warranty, oh, because of bootloader? Tell me exactly why is that related and why it is not under warranty. Yes, it is your policy so please explain to me so that I understand.

Modifying car also void the car's warranty. So if I change rim & tyre you void my engine warranty? Sheesh

ANYWAY, already told you that you can win tribunal. Up to you bro, its your money.


QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Oct 23 2013, 12:19 AM)
Then it's a policy. Off course technically it makes no sense but if they've stated it as thr policy before you unlocked it. Then I am sorry to say, they're right to follow thr already stated policy.

But yeah it's a stupid policy and surely unlocking bootloader didn't cause the camera problem. But well thr policy :S

You can still try ur luck.
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They are not right. Because his HTC One was already faulty before he unlocked the bootloader. He just didn't know it.

QUOTE(bluraypirate @ Oct 23 2013, 01:11 AM)
Guys just want to ask u same questions.............

My phone fell down, causing dented and can`t use volume down anymore........can I claim warranty ?

Phone camera also have problem......screen become red when it being use in the dark..........

Also, i bought this phone from a seller here :-

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&hl=wts+htc+one

Send my phone to him or directly to brighstar ???
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You can try and claim warranty, good luck.

Camera issue sure can claim.

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QUOTE(bluraypirate @ Oct 23 2013, 01:39 AM)
Need to call brighstar first ? Also it is a good idea to send myphone with poslaju ?
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Just call HTC helpline. Whatever you do don't ask any of us cause we have no clue. You can only call HTC to ask.
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QUOTE(bluraypirate @ Oct 23 2013, 12:06 PM)
i live in tmrloh......kompom no foc courier like u mention.....
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Call and ask. No harm trying.

QUOTE(manypplwan @ Oct 23 2013, 12:34 PM)
Called just now. It's repaired already and I can collect it now. But the problem is my transport from Banting to BTS. My class ended at 2.30 and the centre are already closed at 7 pm (based on what the HTC said)
I wonder if I'm able to make it in time or not. If they send it via courier, I'll probably get it next week. And the centre is closed on weekend  cry.gif
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If not mistaken they use UPS, by right its next day delivery, call them and ask. If they ship today probably Friday you get it.

And for that idiot who say law in Malaysia, I already said, I won, and many other people also won. Tribunal court is different, there's no lawyers allowed, no jury, just a judge who will hear your story and decide.
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joytest Sure, sharing is caring. Hope more people know that tribunal is effective and we have rights despite what the "T&C" says. For RM5 to file a tribunal, there is absolutely no harm trying.
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post Oct 24 2013, 03:56 PM

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The more of you guys have a VALID case to file tribunal against HTC..the better for everybody. Then the tribunal courts will really know that HTC One really got problem and HTC is screwing people over, and it'll get easier and easier for everybody to get better service.

I support you guys!

BTW I got 1 piece of SGP Ultra Crystal, open packaging cause I used 1 myself.. anybody wants? RM30 cheap cheap.
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QUOTE(mofis @ Oct 24 2013, 05:25 PM)
this purple hue will appear when i put my phone on flat surface then open the camera app. rclxub.gif
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Yours is SUPER faulty. LOL.

QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 24 2013, 05:28 PM)
This must be one special day.
I wrote to HTC Taiwan and UK complaining about the service of HTC Malaysia and the horror stories of the camera I got a reply from HTC that they will call me tomorrow 'to discuss my concerns'
Rest assured will hantam kow low got approval code lagi
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All the best bro. Whack only! Then update us.
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Oct 24 2013, 06:25 PM)
Really sad. Donno how they do their qa.
I may want to send to them again. Sigh..

For those has get the camera replaced, do you see this problem?
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Brother, you can DEFINITELY file tribunal and from your case sure can win. In total this is the 2nd time already right?

QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 24 2013, 07:00 PM)
because the monkeys damaged the board while taking out the camera module
Show them this picture and ask them to explain
In any case I am listing down the horror stories from this forum for my ammunition tomorrow when they call
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Yup. Ask them explain.

QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 24 2013, 07:25 PM)
why want to sign NDA? If I not mistaken once you sign NDA, is a way to block you from talking about this. Means no law suit can take place because you can't talk about it. You breech it, they can sue you.
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Correct, don't ever sign the NDA. If you sign NDA you cannot go tribunal or sue then or disclose anything.
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https://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...ibunal-branches

There's 2 branches in Penang, one in Seberang Prai another in Leboh Downing. All the best.
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QUOTE(bosco1314 @ Oct 25 2013, 02:35 AM)
Hi guys , any1 encounter broken htc one front glass before?how much it will cost if I send back to original SIS or third party for front glass replacement ? Or any expert here who do repair or can recommend to me?And if I send to third party repair will definitely void the warranty? Mine is DIGI set , pls advise  n thanks in advance
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Nobody can open HTC One without destroying it without its "special tool" that only HTC has.
Read yourself

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494/

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