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post Oct 15 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 12:59 AM)
Fans already standby when last time using my AIO. xD SP120, maybe will get another pair (cuz it looks better) biggrin.gif
Coolant I read that those distilled water in bottles from Petrol Station would work fine? On the safety side I rmb reading we can use non-conductive koolant which are safer is it?
For my tubes I will be going for colored/uv reactive tube, then using colourless koolant I guess. biggrin.gif
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Yes, distilled water will work fine. Just make sure you don't end up buying something else. tongue.gif

You can also use coolant, which has all the anti corrosion and what-nots already mixed in, complete with colour even.

Good choice on the coloured tube, but I'm guessing your res will be transparent, so might want to consider coloured coolant or dyed water. laugh.gif
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post Oct 15 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 01:20 AM)
lol what type of other things I might end up buying? ><
Err damn i totally forgotten the res is transparent~! LOL... So are there coolant that are non-conductive n coloured??? smile.gif
I'm thinking of going colourless cuz from many reviews I read those premixed coolant or dye will make the tubing deteriorate faster than distilled water :/
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Deionised water, RO water, Mineral water. laugh.gif

Pretty much most coolant will be "non-conductive", but not all of them mention how "non-conductive" they are. Personally, I'd recommend XSPC's EC6, a formula based on Thermochill's excellent EC6 coolant which you can google up and read about. I have EC6 in stock if you're interested. Else, there's always Mayhems, but from infernoaswen's results, seems like the dye breaks down as well. But you can try Mayhem pastel coolants, haven't heard of issues so far.

Deteriorate? blink.gif In what way? You mean stain? Staining will occur at high temperatures and if and when the dye in the coolant/water destabilises. From tests, the original Thermochill EC6 colour does not separate or destabilise. If the rebranded EC6 is anything like it, you shouldn't see staining.
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post Oct 15 2013, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 01:36 AM)
ohh~~ just make sure it stated distilled water then? XD

So distilled water are not "non-conductive" then eh? :/ EC6 eh? I'll do some digging, definitely will pm u if I need'em biggrin.gif Also might get some compression fittings n tubes from u after knowing what size I'll be needing. biggrin.gif
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Yes, be sure it's stated distilled.

Like it or not, everything will still be conductive. Just a matter of how much. The purpose of using Distilled and not anything else is coz it's pretty much pure in the sense that there's nothing, or at least very, very little things in it since it's considered dead water.

Sure bro. Consider your case size and then figure out your tube size. Be warned that if you choose to go 1/2" 3/4" tubing, you might have an issue with compression fittings when assembling on WC parts that have the ports next to each other.
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post Oct 15 2013, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 02:53 AM)
any recommended compression fittings o? I'm looking for black colored if possible seems like it will look better imo. I think I'll most probably going with 1/2:3/4 seems like it will look just nice. ^^
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Trypical choice will be Bitspower. haha. But if you want to budget, there's Enzotech.
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post Oct 15 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 03:08 AM)
I think stick with Bitspower would be better is it? biggrin.gif dun wanna risk leaking cuz save few bucks on fittings lol.
Btw wanna ask recommendation for setting up the res/pump location. My idea is setting up there cuz there a panel there that can seen from the side. But the length of the tube from the GPU to the pump seems wierd ._."
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Your diagram looks weird lol.

Pump/res>cpu>rad>GPU>pump res? ok what. You can even flip the position of the CPU and GPU block if you want.
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post Oct 15 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 15 2013, 11:09 AM)
I tot for the CPU there's 2 holes, so if following ur res/pump>cpu>rad>gpu>pump, wun there be another hole left, same goes to the GPU block? :/
Yea I agree it looks wierd ><
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2 holes, one in one out. So in from pump, out from CPU block in to rad, out from rad in to GPU block, out to res pump.
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 12:39 AM)
Hi guys, it turns out I did one of the most silly mistakes when buying a new rad. I was over confident and went ahead to get an RX360 and only to realize it was too thick to fit in my NZXT Phantom 530. T___T
So now my option is to mount it on the back panel of the Casing. T__T Any recommendation where else I can mount it or how to let it have a better flow? It looks really wierd right now sad.gif
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Did you buy a brand new one or used one? If brand new and you haven't used or damaged it in any way, maybe try asking for a swap?
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 12:48 AM)
bad news was I bought it 2nd hand. >< Cuz it was at a attractive price. sad.gif So I guess I'll have to stick with it for now >_<
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Mount it at the back for now unless you want to sell it off and buy for yourself a new one. You can get a mount bracket system by koolance from niclasteoh.
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 01:07 AM)
the seller agreed to give me the mounting together. :/ Maybe cut a box or something to hide it. ><  Kinda regret now.. gonna need to save more next month T_T Btw wont the tubing kink or looks wierd cuz the tubing will be running directly to the pump located at below :/
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you can still put the pump inside your case. just your tube routing will be oddly long.


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post Oct 16 2013, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 01:21 AM)
gahh. :/ Didn't know wc wasn't as easy as it seems. >< I think its possible to mount the rad on the top of the case without the cover, but might need find apes,or someone to make an cover to cover the entire top area except the mount and 2 holes for tubes, it'll look oddly tho I think sad.gif
I just rmb that tubes are best made as short as possible right?
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You don't need to cover actually. Some have left the radiator on the top exposed.

I don't think there's proof stating short tubes give better results, but typically that's what people do to keep things neat.
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 01:38 AM)
yea but my top part of the case dosen't have any area where the tubes can go. So I could either drill holes on the casing or use those mount . Easiest way I think is mount a fan at 2 of them leaving one have area to bring the loop down to the CPU, where as on the top using 3xpull config. biggrin.gif
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use a bracket to lift your radiator off the case, use 90 degree adapters on the radiator inlet and outlet, route the tubes to the back of your case.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 01:48 AM)
hmmm means those rotaries is it? oh ya I almost forgotten this part. If I get rotaries I still need to get fittings right? biggrin.gif
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yeah, 90 degree or 45 degree rotaries. you'll still need compression fittings unless you buy 90 degree or 45 degree rotaries that come with compression fittings on one end.
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post Oct 16 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 16 2013, 12:41 PM)
So I think this the only way for me to put the rad on top. I have to sacrifice the top panel and most probably gonna need to find/make some cover for it.
So if setup as the rad as on top. I will probably need 4 90 degree rotaries right? 2 on cpu block connecting 1 tube to rad, 1 to pump. and then another 2 90 degree rotatries, from gpu to pump and rad? smile.gif
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Wait. Why can't you put it at the back again? rclxub.gif I wouldn't sacrifice my top cover to up the rad on the top.
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post Oct 21 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Krauser @ Oct 21 2013, 11:36 PM)
w/c manufacture y u no use matrix system? inch n foot wth...
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That's why I converted all the values here. laugh.gif
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 22 2013, 01:13 AM)
Pristine U think Msia will bring in stock for Arctic Accelero Hybrid o? Or similar type AIO for GPU? biggrin.gif Seems not bad from what I read from review here.
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OCDrift is a locally based group, so whatever they get their hands on, you can pretty much be sure you'll be able to find locally. To answer your question, yes you can get the accelero hybrid locally, but I think the price of it is about the price of a GPU block or more, so it's not really worth it if you've already got a custom water cooling system going.
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post Oct 22 2013, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 22 2013, 01:24 AM)
yup at that price point really don't think its worth it. biggrin.gif Mine coming up in a week or two. Still gathering all the final parts.  ^^
Was asking cuz my friend was kinda worried about his GPU temp. GTX760 from Zotac with stock cooler. Accdientally bumped into this cooler while was hunting around xD
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A good price performance balance for third party air cooler for gpu are the ones from arctic. they are phenomenal. Check them out. Should be about 2xx or so for one.
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post Oct 22 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 22 2013, 09:25 PM)
will look into it. biggrin.gif
Hey wanna ask u.
Currently here are all my WC stuffs, I need your input on wheter to get additional 240mm rad. biggrin.gif
EK DCP 4.0 Pump + Res Combo
XSPC Raystorm Intel
Swiftech MCR 320 QP - Stack Edition (Slim 34mm)

I'll be using arcylic tubing and white fittings. The fan I have right now are 2 SP 120. So right now I'm kinda torn in between wheter to get additional rad to mount on bottom/front of my casing.

EDIT: I should also say that my loop will be used to cool both gpu(GTX 660 OC) and cpu
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Actually, depends what temperatures you want to achieve. If you feel you want better temperature handling and have the budget, then sure, get a 240mm. Otherwise, you don't really "need" to.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 22 2013, 09:43 PM)
ohh so I think it's more to personal *wants* rather than *needs* than? biggrin.gif
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Depends on your system too. tongue.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 23 2013, 01:15 AM)
After going through your worklog, I decided to put on hold my water cooling setup. smile.gif Ur worklog made me realize that if I rush everything with limited budget it will not end up well especially for Arcylic Tubing Loops.
With all those parts listed initially I was planning to fork out around 500-600 for the tubings and fittings seems that the budget is hard to fit in without those rotaries.
Initially I was thinking of running the tubes like this
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But your worklog made me realize it's better to slowly get my things one by one, slowly finish up my build even though it'll take sometime. smile.gif So I decided to put hold and saved up for rotaries and another additional 240mm rads as well. ^^
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If you're going rigid acrylic loop and plan on bending, you don't need rotaries. Just be prepared to go through many hours of bending acrylic and learning while you do it.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Oct 23 2013, 01:51 AM)
but for aesthetics purpose, rotaries should be better is it? Cuz what I see most people do is use rotaries and straight arcylic tubes.
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Depends what you want to achieve.

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