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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V31, Excitement Embodied

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post Oct 17 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Freedom1104 @ Oct 17 2013, 12:23 PM)
walao u all.. still play toys meh. aduiiii ... better spent the money at Lam Fong concert ticket la. worth every penny  nod.gif  nod.gif
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post Oct 17 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Oct 17 2013, 02:35 PM)
the whole RG SF is nice, but the hand  shocking.gif muz paint it to black....too shiny for me. mcm Austin Power golden hand jer laugh.gif
RG Infinite Justice next plz  notworthy.gif
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Where's my RG Providence vmad.gif They already released RG for heroes and anti-heroes, they should release an RG for a certified villain like Creuset mad.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(mf_yamato @ Oct 18 2013, 09:53 AM)
and please.... no more freedom/strike freedom.. huhuhuhu
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I've always wanted to create a 00R + SF + Zeta hybrid (all MG) sad.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Oct 18 2013, 12:27 PM)
too much wing/backpack/ailestrike/extension going on there sweat.gif
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Nah I'm thinking more like using parts of them, not combining all of their parts laugh.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 04:48 PM

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Out of box build completed. Detailing and complete nub marks removal afterwards biggrin.gif

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post Oct 20 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Oct 20 2013, 11:59 AM)
Ahhhh...rg really is super fragile... Think I won't get another RG anymore... So fast already brokena critical part of the Gp01 core fighter wing... The part that holds the beam saber sad.gif  Previously I broke the Rg zaku leg joints after few months of posing... The side skirt keeps coming off... And in order to fix it I hv to remove the entire leg... Too many times take in and out..and end up broken..... doh.gif [attachmentid=3683012]
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Indeed they are. I broke the rifle peg when I was trying to wiggle out the rifle from Freedom's back skirt, on another occasion, Fatum's cannon holder got warped almost to breaking point on my Justice doh.gif

Must be really careful in handling them.
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:21 PM

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I like buying from Crux, quick and attentive to customers service smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 21 2013, 12:07 AM)
i went to his website, is it not up to date? because the stocks are lacking sweat.gif
http://www.crux.com.my/hobby/allproduct&fi...18=Product+Line
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Well the thing with Gunpla is, there's no one true shop that you can always rely on for variety, availability and price. You just have to do some searching to get the best deal. Time Machine (BTS) is known for cheaper prices, but they don't carry much units, at most 3-4. But I think many will agree with me that Gamers Arena is a good reference for market price, since they carry the most products and their prices are not disappointing.

Get online on Amazon, sometimes it's a lot cheaper there, if you can bear the waiting time.
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post Oct 21 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Oct 21 2013, 08:06 AM)
err... not sure about the first one tongue.gif some can be quite pricey there at TM.. as for GA, reference for market prices are alright, but only for normal releases.. limited ones.... can say it's quite expensive there also tongue.gif slightly higher than what u can get from online sellers or maybe other places
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So far I find their prices are generally cheaper compared to GA or TM, 3.0 for 146 (others 153), Sinanju OVA for 250ish, others 270 or something. But their units are limited.

QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Oct 21 2013, 08:38 AM)
^ not quite slow brows.gif only recently just found out also, very excited/happy that they finally gave him an anime rclxms.gif

also a bit off topic but still kind of mecha.. anyone know when code geass - akito the exiled episode 2 will be out..? i heard it screened in Japan already but still no luck finding subbed sad.gif i've been waiting sooooo long for episode 2
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Crossbone X3, what do you expect laugh.gif They need promotion for it.
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post Oct 23 2013, 09:06 PM

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If HG is catching up to MG, then MG will eventually catching up with PG. Can you imagine what PG will achieve one day? Lifelike articulation is inevitable, die cast inner frame is possible, if not entirely.
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 24 2013, 12:00 AM)
MG already catching up to PG now as what they did to MG Nu Gundam v. KA
as for PG 50-50 they will discontinue with the line... they more focus on Real Grade line now as less time and less cost to produce
so dont surprised that PG SF might be last PG they make
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Latest MGs are impressive, that's why when MG have fully taken over what PG is meant for, the then-PG will be something more exclusive. MG and HG are Bandai primary cash cows, but to think they will abandon their crown jewel (PG), I don't think so smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Oct 24 2013, 07:19 AM)
I do think so. Bandai's last two attempts at PG kits were overpriced and had some poor engineering decisions which have made them consider by almost everyone to be the worst PG kits ever made, despite being the newest ones. Contrary to what you think, the PG line is not Bandai's crown jewel. The PG line catered only to diehard Gunpla fans - it has never been Bandai's primary money maker and never will be.
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Err... read my post clearly. I already stated that MG and HG are their primary money makers. PG, on the other hand, is meant for those who really have much money to spend on something with mechanical design extravaganza. Having 'poor engineering' or not, as long as something is made by human, it's far from perfect, same goes to MG.
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post Oct 24 2013, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 24 2013, 08:01 AM)
read my post again, they more focus on Real Grade which is more profitable line than PG.. PG is dead right now.. well not really, they just announced P-Bandai PG Blue Frame... if that what exclusiveness mean by you

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I think you misunderstood my point, or I misunderstood yours. Bandai is unlikely to just kill off PG, like you suggested they would do that in time. They have 1/144 in HG and RG, 1/100 in MG and NG, marketing wise, they still need the 1/60 line as their flagship. So no, I don't think they will deplete PG from its line smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Oct 24 2013, 08:56 AM)
NG not so much, its been dead for years now. This used to be a temporary line revived during seed era to satisfy fans who wants 1/100 kits but at he same time Bandai has no immediate plans for MG of those said kits. Things seems to hav change now, Bandai seems to be planning kit releases way in advance prior to its anime, hence NG line has been re-buried.

As for PG, yes it'll be retained but its releases will be sporadic; maybe once every 3 or 5 years for novelty sake. There just isn't any good reason for ppl to buy PG other then size tbh. MG has already reach PG level of intricacy. In the past u can say well PG hav LED, hav sliding armor gimmick, hav fully articulated hands, amazing innerframe details, well new MG already hav all of those + at a cheaper price and bigger range of models to choose from with new scheduled releases once every month. Ppl r finding it hard to justify buying PG and at the same token Bandai finds it hard to justify spending precious time and money and man power to develop PG.

It'll not be dead due to novelty sake, but it'll be few and far in between.
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That's why I said they won't kill PG, and since MG has already reached the door step of PG quality, Bandai will have to find new exclusivity to incorporate into PG, making it different from MG other than the scale difference. It may just be my wishful thinking, but a die cast skeleton for PG isn't that a really crazy idea.
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post Oct 24 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Oct 24 2013, 09:19 AM)
die cast skeleton? crazy and would cost a lot.. plus it would be extremely EXTREMELY heavy.. it will probably crush most people's shelves just standing there... heck i think most wouldn't even be able to lift the box.. even the little die cast in PGs like Wing make him so heavy.. if he were full on die cast... well.... u get the idea
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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Oct 24 2013, 09:20 AM)
ummm...yes it is. Do you have any idea how expensive a PG Gundam with an entire diecast inner-frame would be? Not to mention that an all die-cast inner frame would make the model kit a posing nightmare - everything would be so heavy that it would fall down from its own weight. You'd be lucky if you could keep an elbow bent.
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Oct 24 2013, 09:23 AM)
die cast will nvr be used, it'll drives the price sky high (as if it isn't already) further alienating its existing customer base hurting its sales even more. Also the point of model kit is the building process, be it if the kits is good or bad the building part is where we find enjoyment. Making it die cast means ur taking a big chunk of its point and throw it out of the window.

die cast was a necessity in the past due to tech constrains and even then it was used sporadically not entirely, now its not needed. Especially when u propose the entire frame to be die cast, ppl will ask why do u do it? If its for the sake of being different but at the cost of making it more expensive and taking out a huge chunk of enjoyment out of it, it will shun ppl away from it even more.
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There should be nothing wrong with pushing the limit on how far one would spend if they are enthusiastic enough, and it's just a wishful thinking brows.gif So I want to ask all of you, what kind of different characteristics will you think will be applied to PG to differentiate it between MG, then? Just the size? I don't think so.
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post Oct 24 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(afsarudy @ Oct 24 2013, 10:25 AM)
This is what I know only la.
1. Size
2. Amount of parts
3. Details
4. Gimmicks
5. Propotion

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Well since people are adamant these features in PG are obsolete as they have been consolidated into MG, it's nothing new there tongue.gif

QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 24 2013, 10:26 AM)
ok, finally back from taiwan. the gundams there are very cheap. missed MG proto zero by few days sad.gif so din get to buy. only got the following (mini haul)

- rg justice
- rg freedom
- rg zeta white
- mg rx 78 3.0
- mg strike rouge
- hg build strike
- hg zaku amazing
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Nice haul there, tell me how Build Strike and Zaku Amazing fare and I might give it a thought.
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Oct 24 2013, 10:42 AM)
Business isn't done this way. U dun go mass produce it just cuz u can. If the model cost 50000yen each ask urself how many ppl will buy it? When r u gonna get ur ROI factoring into the time and cost to make 1? When u mass produce something u r taking up an entire production line with that said product, if that product fail u r wasting time, money and man power into developing it, wasting precious resources that r otherwise better spend on making other stuff that r more likely to be purchase by majority of its customer base. Bandai get their profit from volume sales not price per sales. Just cuz u or some extremely rich enthusiast could and would buy 1, it makes no business sense to mass produce it. U'll lose more money then u gain.

There just isn't anything legit we could think of to make PG standout which is why most of us here accepts its fates, be it dead or alive it doesn't matter. 1st off if we had any idea we would be working in Bandai's Hobby Division not chatting up in lowyat forum. Shoehorning things into a product just to keep it alive wont work, we r conscious buyers, even when a kit that cost 7000yen we start to find out why and try to justified it. If shoehorning in a feature just for the sake of making it different and not actually making it any better but at the same time making it 2-3 times more expensive, u'll suffer from consumer backlash.
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Err first of all don't get confused, no one is saying Bandai should mass spam the PG line. It would be suffice to know that Bandai should not take down the PG line totally, once every few years is ok, but completely annihilating their pinnacle Gunpla (by Bandai own standard), I hardly think that's gonna happen. To be honest, there must be something that can be done further to the PG line, I won't limit myself to just 'accept its fate', although technically I could do nothing about it.

QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Oct 24 2013, 10:42 AM)
NO ONE would spend that much money on a PG. PG Strike Freedom and 00 Raiser are already pushing the limits on how much people are willing to spend on model kits, especially for those who live outside of Japan where getting model kits for Japanese retail price is usually a stroke of luck.

There's no cost-effective way for Bandai to differentiate PGs from MGs or even RGs anymore besides number of parts and size. Most people consider the Strike Gundam to be the best the PG line has, and everything it has is matched by current MGs and even RGs.
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No offense, but 'everything has been matched by MG and RG', it's simply a matter of how one's imaginary capacity is about, no? laugh.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(afsarudy @ Oct 24 2013, 11:20 AM)
Awesome PG OO XN-Raiser scratch build. thumbup.gif
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More photos here.
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Always have a hard on for dark grey Gunpla rclxms.gif

Did any of you preoder RG SF at GA? Feel like doing so hmm.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Oct 24 2013, 11:36 AM)
Guess what? Your "imagination" would waste Bandai's money. Your "imagination" would result in a PG kit so expensive that nobody buys it. Your "imagination" is overriding your common sense and your ability to listen to reason - reason that has been clearly spelled out to you by multiple people in this thread. Master Grade can do everything Perfect Grade can do if not better, and there's nothing "imaginary" Bandai could do with PGs that they can't just scale down to 1/100 scale to make it considerably cheaper and more profitable for them.
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Take a chill pill will you doh.gif Back when Bandai first started, they have never thought of multi-coloured runners, double jointed knees, elbows, necks, sliding armors, pull-out shoulders, built-up inner frames RG and hand manipulators are based on now. All these were first featured in PG, before it went to MG (took years) and then HG. They didn't appear in MG first due to practicality limitation. It's just a matter of time and technology that they will discover something new, so why should they be complacent with a MG-fied PG? Surely there are tonnes of ideas that they want to do, but cannot be done yet smile.gif

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post Oct 24 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ Oct 24 2013, 11:49 AM)
just bcause the name is called perfect grade doesnt mean it is perfect. Pinnacle? Hardly. Again pg has been eclipse by mg, rg and even hg on some level, the only reason pg still exist and will continue to exits is novelty, not because it the "pinnacle".

again u seems to not understand the concept of production line, doesn't matter if u r producing it once every year or once every 5 years, the very fact that u r producing it means u push the other product into backlog, u r taking up time and resources that would otherwise be spend on that said other products that r cheaper for the mass market, that r more popular with majority of the consumers, that will sell more volume which will means more $$$ and faster ROI. Producing pg isn't profitable, ur lost is compounded in that not only will u lose money if it doesn't sell, u'll lose even more for not producing other things in its place.
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Oh you don't have to treat the name literally, no one actually cares about the rhetorical names, but Bandai has claimed that their PG is the closest to 'perfection' - of what they can offer right now. This is all about my point exactly. I believe there are many more new ideas that Bandai could incorporate into their next PG. Limiting yourself to what is currently available and invoking 'PG is useless now, MG has all it offers' notion is like being complacent. All that MG has now are inherited from years of PG technology R&D, and since Bandai is unlikely to terminate PG, I believe PG will continue to serve its role now smile.gif

On another note, don't worry about the production issue, I know very well of how it works. I think we all got a bit far fetched into my idea of incorporating die case as skeleton. But, who knows they would find an alternative for the similar idea? smile.gif

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