seed does this copy and mod theme all the way till the dessert arc. The entire 1st half of seed is 0079 almost scene per scene. Keep watching and u'll know what i mean.

1. rg has nvr been anime accurate to begin with. it has always been exaggeration of existing design base on the theme of 1/1 rx78 in odaiba. Citing its design inaccuracy as reason for non production holds no water.
2. mg nu and sazabi is new. No sane businessman will release 2 range of product within such short period of time featuring the same design competing for the same set of customers. Ur cannibalizing ur own market shares aka shooting ur own 2 foot.
3. rg has nvr been the mainline product, at least not yet due to it having very little range of kits. Consumers r more familiar with mg/hg due to a combination of it being in the market longer and having more range of products that satisfied a larger set of consumers. Chances r there r more ppl buying mg/hg line of product then rg because of this.
4. mg/hg r very popular among custom modeler.

take factor 2-4 and u'll get ur answer why nu and sazabi was not made into rg right now but instead debuted as mg. mg is still bandai pride and glory, hg is a step lower in terms of importance to the brand. both designs will nvr be in rg form at least for another 2-3 years.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Oct 18 2013, 09:46 PM

plenty of seller in trade zone street mart, if u hav any model in mind well just search for the model and find the best price. If just to look look see see window shopping, just search gundam and select the topic with the most pages. i personally buy most of my stuff from tytroum

buying through lyn is not bad of a deal, sometimes u can find stuff cheaper then in physical shop. Most often then not the prices + shipping will roughly equals to prices + petrol + parking fees, so in the end ur not really saving anything, however u avoid the hassle of going there urself and suffer through jam.

NG not so much, its been dead for years now. This used to be a temporary line revived during seed era to satisfy fans who wants 1/100 kits but at he same time Bandai has no immediate plans for MG of those said kits. Things seems to hav change now, Bandai seems to be planning kit releases way in advance prior to its anime, hence NG line has been re-buried.

As for PG, yes it'll be retained but its releases will be sporadic; maybe once every 3 or 5 years for novelty sake. There just isn't any good reason for ppl to buy PG other then size tbh. MG has already reach PG level of intricacy. In the past u can say well PG hav LED, hav sliding armor gimmick, hav fully articulated hands, amazing innerframe details, well new MG already hav all of those + at a cheaper price and bigger range of models to choose from with new scheduled releases once every month. Ppl r finding it hard to justify buying PG and at the same token Bandai finds it hard to justify spending precious time and money and man power to develop PG.

It'll not be dead due to novelty sake, but it'll be few and far in between.

1/60 line is not as important as u think it was. Again same as PG argument, the only think it has over other line is size. When was the last time u heard ppl exited or anticipating for new kits from this scale? Bandai could cut this line entirely and nobody will cry a river for it.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Oct 24 2013, 09:13 AM

die cast will nvr be used, it'll drives the price sky high (as if it isn't already) further alienating its existing customer base hurting its sales even more. Also the point of model kit is the building process, be it if the kits is good or bad the building part is where we find enjoyment. Making it die cast means ur taking a big chunk of its point and throw it out of the window.

die cast was a necessity in the past due to tech constrains and even then it was used sporadically not entirely, now its not needed. Especially when u propose the entire frame to be die cast, ppl will ask why do u do it? If its for the sake of being different but at the cost of making it more expensive and taking out a huge chunk of enjoyment out of it, it will shun ppl away from it even more.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Oct 24 2013, 09:26 AM

Business isn't done this way. U dun go mass produce it just cuz u can. If the model cost 50000yen each ask urself how many ppl will buy it? When r u gonna get ur ROI factoring into the time and cost to make 1? When u mass produce something u r taking up an entire production line with that said product, if that product fail u r wasting time, money and man power into developing it, wasting precious resources that r otherwise better spend on making other stuff that r more likely to be purchase by majority of its customer base. Bandai get their profit from volume sales not price per sales. Just cuz u or some extremely rich enthusiast could and would buy 1, it makes no business sense to mass produce it. U'll lose more money then u gain.

There just isn't anything legit we could think of to make PG standout which is why most of us here accepts its fates, be it dead or alive it doesn't matter. 1st off if we had any idea we would be working in Bandai's Hobby Division not chatting up in lowyat forum. Shoehorning things into a product just to keep it alive wont work, we r conscious buyers, even when a kit that cost 7000yen we start to find out why and try to justified it. If shoehorning in a feature just for the sake of making it different and not actually making it any better but at the same time making it 2-3 times more expensive, u'll suffer from consumer backlash.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Oct 24 2013, 11:03 AM

just bcause the name is called perfect grade doesnt mean it is perfect. Pinnacle? Hardly. Again pg has been eclipse by mg, rg and even hg on some level, the only reason pg still exist and will continue to exits is novelty, not because it the "pinnacle".

again u seems to not understand the concept of production line, doesn't matter if u r producing it once every year or once every 5 years, the very fact that u r producing it means u push the other product into backlog, u r taking up time and resources that would otherwise be spend on that said other products that r cheaper for the mass market, that r more popular with majority of the consumers, that will sell more volume which will means more $$$ and faster ROI. Producing pg isn't profitable, ur lost is compounded in that not only will u lose money if it doesn't sell, u'll lose even more for not producing other things in its place.

well Bandai claimed its closes to perfection, but how much of that statement is pure marketing gimmick? Yes its true alot of new features in MG/RG/HG line today r derived from PG, but if PG were to be intended as a pinnacle, as a testbed for new features as u implied, then we should be getting new PG every year and with each brings something unique to the table for other lines to emulate on; or at the very least 1 thing new that no other line has. This is true in the 90s, but ever since then technology incorporated into PG has been stagnant, literally no new stuff is being done onto it while at the same time its unique features r trickled down onto other grades over the years. Ur argument for it being the pinnacle will holds true if constant development, constant features, constant release is done, however this isnt the case.

in fact new features r being done onto other lines instead, MG is the 1st to have lightweight flexible paint friendly inner frame debuted on Nu ver ka, extremely detailed parts with crazy amount of parts and color separation debuted on RG line, fully assembled innerframe debuted in MG (rx78 ver 1.5 has it 1st although its only the leg portion). If PG as pinnacle should holds true then it should have something new to shout about by now, but what we r getting from that line? Recolored blue frame that r exclusive.... Not only that, over the years PG has been sharing the same frame now, strike, arf and abf so where is the new features that signified it being the creme de la creme?

if bandai themselves couldnt think of something new to market pg on other the the tagline for several years now, its says more about its lack of innovation and ideas for that line..

Again i agree however that the line will be kept, but not because its the pinnacle or perfection but for the sake of nostalgia and novelty.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Oct 24 2013, 12:38 PM

moonlight butterfly
self regeneration
beam teleportation

need any more reason?

Ever build old mg wing? u want those hands back?

At least the swapable hands r functional, old 3 1 is not functional nor aesthetic. Also why do u care if its swap hand or 3 1, once u build u just gonna giv it a pose and leave it alone, ur not gonna touch or keep changing the hands daily unless u play with it like a toy which is not what model kits r made for anyway.

Old 3 1 when holding large weapons will fall off just by looking at it, end up relying on blue tact or just glue it in place. Between 3 1 and swap, I'll take swap hand anyday.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Nov 15 2013, 09:52 AM

the peg is too small to hold anything on its own securely other then beam saber and simple light weight basic rifles. The finger articulation is unnatural as it has only 1 joint for each at the base, bcuz its molded with fist/trigger pose in mind any other pose makes it look dumb.

other then destiny and sf, the rest r not too bad. From the list i'll say ABF for the sole reason that its newer then the rest.

out of the list try hguc stuff. hguc for the past couple of years has been solid all around u can nvr go wrong with it. Or u could try BF stuff, but there isnt much choices right now.

dun advice new modeller to go for rg.

yes its not too bad of a starting point actually. NG is just a bigger HG and if u hav big hand big finger the increase in size is actually easier to work with. Bad news is good NG is few and far between, old NG is atrocious but u probably couldnt find those anymore, and new NG is limited to just seed and 00. So if dun like both of those series then though luck.

NG = no grade, its not an official naming term per se, its just a name fans use for these line of kits. Since the rest of the bandai kits have grading on it, these particular line however does not hav 1 hence the term NG is use to identify it.

hg u will see hg on the box, same with mg pg rg. ng u wont c any grade label on the box, just the scale.

example:


This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Nov 19 2013, 11:58 PM

BF appeal to new comers (aka kids) due to its childish nature / fun competition type show that is easy to follow without all the complicated politics/philosophy/war/religion/etc. Old fans (aka ppl who hav watch every single gundam show ever) like this cuz of all the reference, jokes, cameos, parody and a big departure from all the killings and death and somber mood of past shows, its a much needed breath of fresh air in a fun way and also making fun of us real life modelers. Its just a really upbeat show full of cliche but was deliberate done so in a fun joking way which is why its works. It never took itself seriously and so should the viewer, watching BF is just pure enjoyment.

Ppl hu dun like this show r those hu dun hav enough experience watching gundam and hence do not understand all the awesome jokes and could only see it as nothing more than kids show; to which i'll say to them stop complaining and go watch the other 20 gundam series that r more serious in nature, then come back to this and u will love BF.

it also paves the way for old design that will never see the light of day if it werent for BF which old school fans will appreciate. The all gundam hg project is highly anticipated.

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Nov 20 2013, 11:10 AM

looks much better, the previous 1 was at a weird angle and weird proportion.

no, if it were it'll be promoted heavily in all events.

imagine u running a business and there is a feature to go alongside with ur latest product, of course u wan to market it advertise the shit out of it to generate more hype to show to ur potential customer what their money is being spend on to make ur product more appealing. If any features in question was not heavily promoted it just means its not included, simple business 101.

we know there is sliding armor gimmick long ago, just did not know how much of it was there till now. Perhaps the forearm sliding armor was abit of a surprise but the rest of the body u can see it coming from a mile away. Infact during the expo some1 made a mistake showing it with sliding armor gimmick leading to some speculating it having psycho frames, of cuz that was eventually quickly taken down and re-pose with the close position. We know it have such feature just did not kno to what extend, so no the feature itself is not really that surprising.

we've seen the long riffle long ago.

as a rival piece to nu ver ka, if nu has its amuro stand then sazabi (if it were to hav any stand at all) should be of custom char/neo zeon stand for parity sake. As such if there were custom stand for it it would be promoted long ago as a big feature. Stand itself the engineering behind it is not really that complex so there is no reason to hold it back so long, infact its so much more simple then the rest of the kit it should be the 1 feature to be completed 1st and be shown off long ago as a tease. Not only was that not the case, 90% of its debut was it standing upright on its own 2 feet the rest of the 10% was on a basic red action base 1 with some neo zeon decals, if this is the stand given wouldnt that be anticlimatic? Posing such basic stand beside the amuro stand looks weird and out of place. As such all current evidences point to it being not having any custom base or any base for that matter and was design to stand upright on its own.

also, the sliding armor gimmick was its magnum opus, 1 final push for sales by showing off what it could really do. It was a good marketing strategy getting fans all excited including me, so after such a revealed why is there anymore need to hide a display base (if there ever were 1)? A single display base is not gonna make a better sales pitch then what has been revealed, holding it back means its debut would be a whimper, drown out by all the excitement of its previous announcement. Revealing a feature should be a gradual incremental process so that ur new announcement is better then ur previous 1 to generate more hype about ur product. Once it revealed its best ever features, revealing more additional features that are not as grandiose after it is kinda pointless from a marketing standpoint.

of course i would like to be proven wrong as i do wan a base to be included, but there is virtually no hint whatsoever of there being 1. And it being so close to release date, its design and features would hav been finalize by now, its production plant should be pumping the kit out at full force right this moment ready to be package and ship to stores in japan. Adding more features at this point will bring more overhead cost, aka its too late now

This post has been edited by TheAdmiral: Nov 23 2013, 04:24 PM

nope

this taken from the expo.


3990 cut off the tax itll be 3800. Even Hlj list its base price at 3800.