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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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wil-i-am
post Sep 11 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(shacz @ Sep 11 2013, 05:23 PM)
hi guys, just wanted to know is that possible to invest in ASN now? any guides? thanks.
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U can read the summary on the 1st page of this thread
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post Sep 12 2013, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 11 2013, 09:10 PM)
So lucky it is just like a savings account with high interest, for the non-bumi once withdrawn from ASNB's funds will be hard to put back in.
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Agreed
To avoid this from happening, just setup n implement assets allocation
Withdrawal can come from savings/fd 1st instead of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M (last resort)
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post Sep 12 2013, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 12 2013, 08:05 AM)
Yape, i was like hunting for the news for additional subscriptions every day for the non-bumi..

Once withdrawn once, I feel the pain because not easy for me to put back the money into the account once withdrawn..

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ASNB will make announcement if there is additional new units open for subscription
Just get redy $
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post Sep 12 2013, 11:46 AM

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Penangguhan Urus Niaga AS1M

http://www.asnb.com.my/poster_penangguhan/2013-AS1M_BM.pdf
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post Sep 13 2013, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 13 2013, 08:03 AM)
haha... coming pretty soon.. I am excited and hoping for the good news...  rclxms.gif
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Can try to top up too as those holders who need $ will withdraw just b4 suspension (imagine Bank close for 1 week)
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 14 2013, 08:22 PM)
Now I hope PNB to launch Amanah Saham Malaysia 2 for all Malaysian this year with fund size of 10Bil Units smile.gif
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M the 1st to support for ASM2
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:41 PM

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Article in The Edge for next week
BNM may abolish ASB financing to curb personal financing


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post Sep 14 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 14 2013, 10:39 PM)
meaning no new ppl can apply for that but good for those existing one.
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Bingo
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post Sep 15 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 14 2013, 11:59 PM)
I gotta feeling Gomen "lack of fund" thus Introducing new investment scheme (in the name of helping the "needy" community)  hmm.gif
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Funds raise will goes to KLCI (assume 70%)
KLCI will goes North
Win-win situation for all parties
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post Sep 15 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 15 2013, 12:05 PM)
Govt needs more fund for HUGE Projects ... dunno good news or bad news ?
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Not for huge projects
To please members in anticipation of UMNO general assembly
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post Sep 15 2013, 01:33 PM

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Looks like ASB2 is very timely for those who have utilized the max limit of ASB
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post Sep 15 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 01:31 PM)
ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others
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1. very happy
2. provided is fixed pricing
3. will consider
4. right here waiting
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post Sep 15 2013, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 03:51 PM)
IF really PNB launch new fixed price scheme, I think the same old "crap" excuses / Negative perception when AS1M launch few years back would appear again  nod.gif

It's always like that.

Also one thing I realized, ASB & ASW don't list full their investment in Bursa. They would only list the top 20 only unlike ASM, ASD & AS1M  hmm.gif
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Those who give 'crap' comments won't invest at all
Oni those who xperience d beauty of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M will invest. Some may 'Show Hand' too

ASB/ASW obtained special xemption from SC not to disclose it's full investments
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post Sep 15 2013, 05:46 PM

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Units in circulation for ASB is 121.57 bil units @ 31/5/2013
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post Sep 15 2013, 06:15 PM

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Statistics for ASB
Info xtract from Prospectus
16/6/2005 - 42.0 bil
31/5/2006 - 48.62 bil
31/5/2007 - 53.52 bil
31/5/2008 - 60.02 bil
29/5/2009 - 67.12 bil
31/5/2010 - 78.88 bil
31/5/2011 - 91.87 bil
31/5/2012 - 103.62 bil
31/5/2013 - 121.57 bil
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post Sep 15 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 15 2013, 09:42 PM)
ASB2 is created to make those already rich (>RM200k ready), even richer smile.gif
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A total of 612,875 holders hold more than 50,001 units & above in ASB @ 31/12/2012
Most likely this group of holders will subscribe to ASB2
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 15 2013, 10:31 PM)
The biggest private mutual fund in Malaysia is Public Mutual Fund, the total 50 funds that managed by PM is even less than RM50bil, which is < 50% of ASB.
Not to talk about other funds that managed by PNB such as ASW/ASM....and ASG/ASN1/ASN2/....
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PM is variable pricing -v- ASB is fixed pricing
If compare variable pricing alone, PM is d leader
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2013, 11:03 PM)
Amanah Hartanah Bumpiutra (AHB) is also launched by PM. the dividend is about 6.3% only

and worse, AHB's distributed dividend is not re-invested. instead, they place it in your personal account. so unless you transfer the money manually, you won't see the money grow at all.
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If m not wrong, AHB is similar to REIT
There is a limit on how much REIT can earn as compared to equities
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 11:18 PM)
if not reinvestment, then the money won't grow thus no use investing in it

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I beg to differ
Both AHB n other ASNB fixed pricing products gave reasonable dividend rates
The oni difference is whether the returns is compounded or not
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 11:44 PM)
I've no problem with the dividend rate.  Anything above 6% is good.

What I mean was that if got reinvestment better, because the money would "grow" automatically. Don't need to think much.

If the money return to us, we need to think where to "dump" the money & make it grow bigger.
Lucifah was saying, need to manually do reinvestment by transferring the money from your personal bank account to AHB.
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At least AHB can b compounded (later) if perform manually


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