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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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post Sep 5 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 5 2013, 07:07 PM)
OPR maintained only until end of this year. let's see where it goes after that.
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sorry newbie here.

what is OPR and how does it affect?
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post Sep 9 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 9 2013, 04:54 PM)
Any non bumi ASM products that are still open that can give better than FD rates?
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ASM is a funds of ASNB.
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:44 PM

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Why withdraw
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post Sep 10 2013, 03:45 PM

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finally, asg bounce back to 1.15XX ^^
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:01 PM)
True, because of this a lot of people frustrated  nod.gif
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if unlimited la. FD can all go bankrupt ad hahaha
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post Sep 12 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Sep 12 2013, 08:56 AM)
Sorry need to ask noob question to all sifus here. For non bumi like me, what Amanah Funds shud i invest in now?
With reasonable returns. Thx. smile.gif
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ASN 3 and ASG. but you must understand the concept, its not like others..
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:12 PM

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gin&tonic

sorry for late reply.... my uni life started @@

ASG got 3. Persaraan, Pendidikan, and Kesihatan.

those 3 have no diff in term of funds, but their allocation fund is diff from each other.

Kesihatan is equity. However, Persaraan and Pendidikan is Fixed income securities and other capital market instruments. But, this i think no that important imo.....

to make the story short. ASG variable price fund. Meaning, the price for a single unit is totally different every single day. it can be lower or higher compared to the days b4. say buying.

A unit is like 1.6083. But when we buy, there is sale charge. ( 2% for ASG, 5 % for ASN 3 )

1.6083*102 = 1.6405

So when you buy 1000 MYR, you will only get 609.57 units. I hope i made it clear for the purchasing...

by the way, lucifah, yes, ASB, ASD, ASM, ASW, and AS1M is theoretically risk free, but i think practically no. There is still risk but much much much lower than ASN,ASN2,ASN3 and ASG.....

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post Sep 14 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 14 2013, 08:41 PM)
Article in The Edge for next week
BNM may abolish ASB financing to curb personal financing
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how if abolish, is it the while fund gone zero by returning to holders?
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post Sep 14 2013, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 14 2013, 10:33 PM)
he is saying asb financing loan will be abolished

not the asb fund itself wink.gif
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meaning no new ppl can apply for that but good for those existing one.
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post Sep 15 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 01:31 PM)
ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others
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i can say not going to happen. And my opinion giving this ASB2, and let say profiting bumi, keep in mind that ASB is not even max up or even have by every single bumi, so the profiting bumi statement is not valid, even other fund is not fully filled eg ASM, AS1M, there must be something happen inside. Eg, hidden crisis such as not enough funds to cover up OR just to "pleased" EVERY SINGLE investor heart that their management is running well aka "pill penenang hati". But we don't know, just my personal opinion.

or on the bright site, they wish to have bumi 100 % 8 PA profit, and letting go all the quota status in ASW, ASM, AS1M, so that can be said that bumi = ASB/ASB2
non bumi = ASM/AS1M/ASW2020.....
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post Sep 15 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 03:51 PM)
IF really PNB launch new fixed price scheme, I think the same old "crap" excuses / Negative perception when AS1M launch few years back would appear again  nod.gif

It's always like that.

Also one thing I realized, ASB & ASW don't list full their investment in Bursa. They would only list the top 20 only unlike ASM, ASD & AS1M  hmm.gif
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No, i thing the crap will not happen again unless all ppl are brainless after the same incident happen again....
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post Sep 19 2013, 01:22 PM

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lol looks like estimation is correct again.
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post Sep 19 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ck23 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:30 AM)
im non bumi. Meaning I cant buy already?
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yes, you can, but only with the variable priced.

but, do understand every aspect of it b4 u proceed
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post Sep 20 2013, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 06:28 PM)
Why nobody talk about ASG Pendidikan?
Today I just opened ASG Pendidikan and spent one whole morning.
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asg kesihatan here.. Lol. Really u lost alot la open today. Last 2 week the pricing drop a lot.
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post Sep 21 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 05:36 AM)
You mean asg kesihatan is better than asg pendidikan?
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oh gosh. Look like you don't understand this fund at all. Try look the post I post before.... 3 funds have diff asset allocation. Meaning, affecting its dividend. Put it apart. You know rite when u buying an amount, but the units I, hand isn't that amount you paid. That's is sale charge and NAV combined. And what I want to pint out is, you buy at the wrong time, that is you missed a good chance to buy as the NAV of the three drop A LOT last few weeks, meaning, the unit in hand will be more compared to now. But, since u bought, its ok. Welcome to the club.
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post Sep 21 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 01:23 PM)
Better late than never!
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may I know how much u put?
if 5 figures, you lose will around 4 figures. (during the lowest NAV last week)
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post Sep 21 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 06:33 PM)
Next week, Monday will be buying 5 figures.
Yesterday only bought one hundred unit. The transaction was done after 4pm, so I was unable to buy it at MayBank.
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if the NAV more than 1.17. YOU WILL HAVE BIG BIG BIG lose = =
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post Sep 21 2013, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 21 2013, 07:28 PM)
I'd better choose ASG Persaraan.
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LOL.

You better look carefully i tell you.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 21 2013, 10:19 PM)
Wah, you already expert in ASG. I until now still not fully understand all the 3 fund in ASG. Their annual report also quite confusing.
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I not pro la, haha. I just noticed the NAV last month till yesterday. Basically, the earning for this 3 funds is relatively stable for me... Till now I still don't get why persaraan NAV is so high, but the dividend isn't that superior comparing each other... The anual report is like mess to me as I am not finance student == I just know the asset allocation is diff, since the kesihatn is equity. But I duno that much since I am new in this. But, if want buy, I advice using DCA bcoz now the NAV is high again.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 21 2013, 10:59 PM)
My friend will withdraw AS1M next Mon
For those who want to top up, u may try
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got class. Why not last few month.... But, sure insider tell outsider we no chance

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