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Mind explaining what was up with the SandForce controllers back then?
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Sep 3 2013, 04:30 PM
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RM 1.8k for 1TB? Good God, you are crazy rich.
QUOTE(Eiraku) SandFarce Mind explaining what was up with the SandForce controllers back then? |
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Sep 17 2013, 09:38 AM
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It parodies 80s action flicks. Think about all the cheesy Arnie and Stallone flicks like Commando and Cobra, with all the one-liners and over-the-top gore and card-carrying evil minions and one random sex scene between the heroine and hero before the big finale.
And then multiply that by a factor of 100. That's Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon. |
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Sep 18 2013, 04:58 PM
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The dead adapter story again! NOOOoooooooooooooo.....
Anyway, if there is going to be a GS60 and MSI doesn't bring it into Malaysia, I think they would be missing a big opportunity for sales and visibility. The average person likes thin laptops, and if it can come in at a price not much higher than the GE60 it will probably be an attractive option for a lot of people. Like me. This post has been edited by ThisIsBoletaria: Sep 18 2013, 04:59 PM |
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Sep 19 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 18 2013, 05:23 PM) To be honest, it's useful and critical customer information. I will say that it's the primary reason I didn't buy the GE40 like I was going to and started looking for other alternatives. I think that until either MSI rectifies this error by selling the GE40 with a suitable adapter or the information about the problem is made a prominent note on the first post of the MSI gaming notebook thread, you ought to tell the story whenever it becomes relevant so that newcomers will have a higher chance of noticing it and knowing what they might have to deal with. |
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Sep 19 2013, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 19 2013, 04:09 PM) Well, I'm not saying what MSI is doing is entirely GOOD for US, the 10% of laptop users who actually know what's going on inside their laptops. What I'm saying is simply that what they're doing makes good sense, for THEM and for 90% of the people out there who just want to play games, don't really give an eff about what's inside (besides it being the LATEST AND FASTEST) and replace their laptops on a regular basis. That sounds reasonable, until you consider the possibility that someone else apart from you might encounter dying PSUs because of MSI's power supply configuration. You managed to figure out what the problem was because you're pretty technically savvy (impressively so, I might add), and you know about resource sites like Notebook Review. The average GAMERZ isn't and doesn't, and if the number of cases gets high enough it would be detrimental to MSI's reputation and sales.*ehem*gamers*ehem*. I mean, I'll be the first to feel good the moment MSI decides it's a good thing to supply their laptops with better PSUs, but I really don't think they're going to do anything about it. They don't really believe in "appeasing the masses" with small details like that, because their target market simply isn't the 10% of us who care. MSI's game is more "cheaper for even more stuff compared to the competition" after all - for now anyway. Unfortunately, the "shortcuts" taken to get there might only be visible to us "enthusiasts", and the "GAMERZ" crowd that MSI is trying hard to attract, has no idea. |
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Jan 2 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jan 2 2014, 02:36 PM) Do you really think P34G worth the money? it's just slightly cheaper than the P35K (which P35K just about RM150 cheaper than the GS70) Compared to the GE40? Maybe. With the P34G, you're paying for twin-fan cooling and a better screen, plus better construction compared to the P35K (first batch models had a weak point in the chassis near the swappable ODD bay; dunno if it's fixed or not with the new ones). You're also paying for portability and a more subdued, business-like look.In the end, it depends on how much less it actually costs compared to the GS70 or P35K. If the price difference is similar to the RRP difference between the GE60 and GE40, I would say it's a good deal. |
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Jan 7 2014, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 7 2014, 10:02 AM) Looks like 2014 laptops will be featured with slim profile + 3K~4K screen. Finally, laptop trend become what happen in smartphone trend (slimmer).... Personally, I would prefer improvements to the cooling solutions: dual fans for the GE-class notebooks, for example. Thinner and more powerful is pointless if we have to choose between high component lifespan-shortening temps and throttling.That, or a second HDD bay or ODD bay in a GS70-type notebook. QUOTE(zaicon @ Jan 7 2014, 10:12 AM) You also forgot to mention wider screen, and notebook manufacturers these days are producing more and more 17" slim gaming notebooks( and the 14" of course). Where are the 15" form factors? One of the GE-class pics is of a 15.6" model. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 7 2014, 04:12 PM) ODD is not that important anymore compared to other parts bcs an external dvdrom can be purchased around RM100~200. Therefore, remove an ODD bay but save a lot of space for other improvements. I personally think this is a good point (if they can free external DVDrom...) It's important to me because it's space for an additional HDD using a caddy. Seeing as almost all manufacturers are now abandoning mSATA and few (if any) seem to be interested in including the succeeding M2 SSD format, caddies or dedicated space is fast becoming the only way to actually have a separate SSD and HDD in one system. Actually, I notice a weird situation for MSI GE70 and GS70, both of their price is not much difference but GS70 offers more attracting features than GE70. So, eventually buyer will go for GS70 by just paying a bit. QUOTE Yes you can, but with current cooling designs you have to run ULV processors to do so if you want to avoid hitting mid- to high-90s temperatures. That's actually how a lot of the slim notebooks are achieving their temperature performance. Even the Aspire V series does that despite their dual fans. |
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 7 2014, 04:50 PM) If using ULV processor, it will be meaningless when come to MMO games... And so you see my dilemma. ULVs like the i5-4200U and i7-4500U are by far the most common CPUs in current models, and they're chosen because they're relatively easy to keep cool in thin bodies. But performance is sacrificed. QUOTE Unless someone includes an mSATA slot I can shove an SSD in, or one for the new M2 SSDs, yes. I know that hybrid SSHDs exist, but they use the SSD as a cache to speed up access, rather than it being actual accessible storage. And God knows how I'll find something like the Western Digital Black2, which is a proper SSD and HDD using one single slot. |
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Jan 7 2014, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 7 2014, 05:15 PM) In that case, look for AMD Kaveri, haha. I'll wait for the benchmarks to compare it againat Haswell. AMD tends to have poorer single core performance, which is bad for games like Kerbal Space Program that are single threaded (dammit Unity devs, make your engine properly multicore already...). And the only mobile next-gen Radeon I've heard of is an R7 240 M or something like that (ie. Damn low lah).Hmm, I am thinking if someone purchase slimmer laptop with 4700HQ, why not setting max cpu usage at 80~90% or so in Power Option? Bcs in gaming, users dont require that much of power...unless everything in high/ultra settings... I know less in SSD but instead of using for caching, I prefer to use it being accessible storage like what you said. Not sure Western Digital Black 2 how it works..... WD Black2 is literally an mSATA SSD and 500 GB HDD that both connect to one SATA port. You can use them just as if you had a separate SSD and HDD. But damn ezpensive. This post has been edited by ThisIsBoletaria: Jan 7 2014, 08:34 PM |
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QUOTE(bingding @ Jan 9 2014, 10:13 PM) Used to be available through MSI's Facespace page. It isn't there anymore.@MSI-NB: Why not make it available online again? It's the best way for potential buyers to keep track of your SKUs and retail prices. |
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QUOTE(kyu85 @ Jan 10 2014, 06:06 PM) 1. how the screen color? i nvr use a matte screen before... To add to the questions:2. the bag u mention? is it the backpack? 3. how the sound quality? 4. does it have any issue? 1) How hot do the GPU and CPU get under heavy load? (eg. Playing games or encoding video) 2) How well does it stay cool during idle in a normal room with fan? |
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How did you get it that badly damaged? Holy crap....
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Feb 18 2014, 09:02 PM) It's always the volume of air that can go through the chassis (space for airflow) that matters more vs the speed at which it is circulated (no. of fans). All things being equal, more fans means more airflow, so if you're comparing two similarly thin notebooks with fans that are more or less the same size/speed, the one with more fans is more likely to run cooler. |
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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 20 2014, 12:35 PM) Maxwell 860M is supposed to be more energy-efficient. This means longer battery life and less heat (because of lower TDP). The Kepler version has more shader cores (1152 vs 640), and runs at a lower base clock (797 MHz vs 1029 MHz).Apart from that, there is no didfference, and I think performance for both is more or less the same (ie. close to GTX 770M). SOS: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7834/nvidia-...p-battery-boost This post has been edited by ThisIsBoletaria: Mar 21 2014, 04:56 PM |
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Mar 21 2014, 05:01 PM) GS60 That's somewhat annoying. Any idea if it's possible to get those through retail channels?It's ok. I've figured it out. The mSATA modules is on the upper side of the PCB board, so you'll need to remove the entire board to change the mSATA. Secondly, it does not use the standard mSATA connector. Instead, it uses the M6e connector, the same ones used on Macs. |
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Mar 21 2014, 05:17 PM) C-Zone is selling the Plextor M6e. Oh. so that's an M2 connector. Well, that's better than it being a proprietary format, since the M2 format is supposed to be the new standard going forward.Down side is, it's much more expensive compared to the Plextor M5M mSATA. 66% more for the 128GB Variant 48% more for the 256GB Variant On the plus side, the read and write is also much faster.. but not sure how accurate is the information on their price list. Source Edit: I did additional further reading. The connector format is known as the "M.2". Further Edit: Looks like the speed boost is correct and confirmed. It's due to the increased in bandwidth from moving to the M.2 interface over SATA 3. |
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QUOTE(MSI-NB @ Apr 14 2014, 01:55 PM) In this case, Our service centre will diagnose case by case Then why not just make it policy that changing the RAM, adding your own mSATA drive, or changing the hard drive are not warranty-voiding actions? These are the most common changes that are done by notebook users. With very few exceptions like the GS series, it's not like we're completely dismantling the notebook to access those components.Of course, we would understand if the warranty is voided if someone screwed up when changing those components and fried their motherboard or bent a socket pin, but denying warranty for valid defects or problems just because a harmless upgrade was carried out is pretty unfair. |
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