Then you are lucky, if I were to open, I need to avoid sticker being teared apart on that opening.

I see, red paint one is quite good, not easily get dust on top of it, is that so?

I had the chance for limited edition of GTX770M, that was after one week after I bought normal edition.

Thanks for clarification, so we MSI users can upgrade ourself freely, just the sticker very leceh on back cover.

Well said man~

Pls add 2013 and 2014 GT series as exception also in upgrading ram, bcs of extra copper pipe that in slope position and the ram slot is exactly on its bottom. So, I think GT users may need to dissamble the heat sink to successfully put the new ram into slot.....

quite okay the temp, try not to turn on cooler boost then you know your laptop limit.

GS70 2PC: light, dual fan, GTX860M, advantage against GE70 is better cooling due to dual fan although slimmer chassis.

By the way, if you want to play Crysis 3 and want everything high settings, you better opt for GTX870M or GTX880M. Bcs Crysis 3 is GPU killer, GTX860M can play but need to lower down some settings to ensure at least 30fps.

Not just cooling, some extra feature is Killer double shot (I am not sure its advantage), for the screen, I am not sure any advantage of GS70 against GE70.

Ar, forget to tell you one thing, GTX860M on GS series may be still Kepler version, so far only GE series is Maxwell version. Advantage of Maxwell against Kepler is efficiency and power saving (less heat dissipitate but performance improves).

Actually, for both GS70 and GE70, they are slim when compared to GT series, so when you play games for hours, you will feel the warm/hot on palm rest and keyboard area.

When come to cooling, I think GS70 should be better due to dual fan provided similar thickness of chassis. But when you want to choose GS70, why not just add <RM500 go to GT60/70, definitely a monster level for gaming and you dont need to worry about cooling anymore, only the weight (~5kg total).

Since you are fresh graduate, that means you are about starting to work, so I suggest you purchase laptop when you have steady savings first, bcs buying gaming laptop is quite costly. I bought my GT70 after I had enough savings first. However, if your family sponsor the purchase, then go for GE70, good price/cost ratio, just need to take good care of in cooling.

Both 860M and 870M on GS60/70 are Kepler, so you will feel warm if long hours gaming. May be temperature of CPU and GPU close to 90C for some heavy games and the performance slow down (auto cooler boost kick in, probably CPU and GPU throttle to protect hardware damage)

You mean you go to Device Manager to disable Intel GPU? Then you will get error and restart bcs it is main driver for display. What you can do is in Nvidia Control Panel, choose high-performance Nvidia processor as default driver instead of auto-switch (red power light always instead of switching between white and red)

This post has been edited by shin2l: Apr 15 2014, 02:28 PM

Display size for games I think you need to do in that games options. I am not so sure for SLI driver, if you want to play full screen for every games, usually I do in the games options. I hope this can help you.

Haha, I am even lower score than you~ 4.8!!

I think it depends on dual ram and above, my GT70 is single ram, that is why I have lower score, if you are dual ram (e.g. 16GB ram) then most problably you will get 7.X score.

Is it using Intel wifi card? Do you try driver from intel website?

may be you try to add another ram to your GT70, then score should be increased, by the way, the WEI is not that important, even it will not affect gaming experience.

If you want to use msata, you must have the docking slot that can support 3 slots of msata. I think your model has it, my model doesnt has it.

It still worth, but the price quite high, for that price, I will go for GT60/70, no cooling problem, almost no heat problem, maintainence friendly. But if portable use is your priority, then go for GS60/70. Otherwise, you need to carry ~5kg to go here and there.

okay, thanks for info, can you show the GPU-Z snapshot of our Malaysia local GS60 2PC?

Bcs I came across China stock and Gentech PC stock review, both also Kepler (1152 shaders/128bit)?

Our Malaysia stock is usually made in China, so there is high possibility that GS60 is still based on Kepler.

the problem is I dont even see a GS60 display model yet.

And you are authorized seller, seller has 1st hand info than customer

Vacation?? so goodlah~

Now that makes sense, but Maxwell GTX860M is preferred as performance/power consumption is better compared to Kepler GTX860M.

I read this yesterday, actually, GTX770M is not only better by 3% compared to kepler 860M, bcs some games benchmarks are based on mixed drivers or even older driver. Notebookcheck should compare based on latest drivers, drivers play a great factor in benchmark, and GTX765M may be in reality only down by 10%~20% compared to kepler gtx860M.

Nevertheless, next driver version will be better and fully optimize for maxwell.

Is your GE70 2PE using Intel Wlan driver? You try to use the driver from Intel website, not the one from MSI website.

So, you solved it by downloading driver from Intel website?

What is your driver version? The latest should be 335.23 based on nvidia Experience on my GTX770M. Are you using beta driver? If yes, then switch back to the one in your DVD