Sep 13 2013, 01:07 PM
QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 13 2013, 11:28 AM)
I'm not too familiar with the GE-series so I'll only comment on the GX-series. Hehe...
Barring the weak CPU, I like everything about the GX60/70. It has almost everything that made GT60/70 nice (e.g. cooler boost, dynaudio, amplified headphone jacks, subwoofer, Killer LAN, same nice casing, etc). In fact I was considering this model too. The one I looked at has mSATA SSD (not sure if its 2x 64GB RAID 0). So bottom line, its a very good deal for the money you paid for. I'll look pass the weak A10-5750M if budget was a constraint.
As mentioned by experts here, pick the 1866MHz memory modules in pairs and you'll increase the performance by quite a bit. If one is daring enough, try to source for A8/A10 engineering samples so that you can OC them. That would increase the GPU utilization.
In my humble opinion, the 1866MHz memory modules does indeed improve APU performance especially the integrated graphics as its bandwidth starve. If you're able to in some way make your programming/rendering applications to also utilize the entire APU (meaning the graphics) for GPGPU, it'll be better.
As for the CPU itself, you need to read about the Piledriver core architecture to understand its weaknesses. There are only two cores in the CPU. Each core has certain areas/resources doubled/shared to allow two threads to run. Giving you 4 logical cores. Sort of like Hyperthreading but its not. Essentially we're talking about performance of around 80% of a real dual core. Because the resources are shared. Also Windows 7 initially had issues with core utilization because it sends threads to physical cores. Sort of like how Windows has problem with early Intel Hyperthreading.
I'm not sure why AMD is going down this pathway, but I believe its to prep the design for GPGPU. For now I wouldn't look at AMD until Steamroller (Kaveri) is released. Why? AMD changed the core configuration because it knew of the weakness of Piledriver. The arithmetic unit has been doubled this time, no more sharing. Only the FPU is still shared. Also the integrated graphics core is now GCN and no more VLIW4.
AMD's future will be bright because Jaguar has been adopted in two major consoles (PS4 and Xbox One). All those x86 console games will be ported back/in between x86 PC platform. And heavily optimized for AMD hardware which is essentially APU architecture.
haha..Barring the weak CPU, I like everything about the GX60/70. It has almost everything that made GT60/70 nice (e.g. cooler boost, dynaudio, amplified headphone jacks, subwoofer, Killer LAN, same nice casing, etc). In fact I was considering this model too. The one I looked at has mSATA SSD (not sure if its 2x 64GB RAID 0). So bottom line, its a very good deal for the money you paid for. I'll look pass the weak A10-5750M if budget was a constraint.
As mentioned by experts here, pick the 1866MHz memory modules in pairs and you'll increase the performance by quite a bit. If one is daring enough, try to source for A8/A10 engineering samples so that you can OC them. That would increase the GPU utilization.
In my humble opinion, the 1866MHz memory modules does indeed improve APU performance especially the integrated graphics as its bandwidth starve. If you're able to in some way make your programming/rendering applications to also utilize the entire APU (meaning the graphics) for GPGPU, it'll be better.
As for the CPU itself, you need to read about the Piledriver core architecture to understand its weaknesses. There are only two cores in the CPU. Each core has certain areas/resources doubled/shared to allow two threads to run. Giving you 4 logical cores. Sort of like Hyperthreading but its not. Essentially we're talking about performance of around 80% of a real dual core. Because the resources are shared. Also Windows 7 initially had issues with core utilization because it sends threads to physical cores. Sort of like how Windows has problem with early Intel Hyperthreading.
I'm not sure why AMD is going down this pathway, but I believe its to prep the design for GPGPU. For now I wouldn't look at AMD until Steamroller (Kaveri) is released. Why? AMD changed the core configuration because it knew of the weakness of Piledriver. The arithmetic unit has been doubled this time, no more sharing. Only the FPU is still shared. Also the integrated graphics core is now GCN and no more VLIW4.
AMD's future will be bright because Jaguar has been adopted in two major consoles (PS4 and Xbox One). All those x86 console games will be ported back/in between x86 PC platform. And heavily optimized for AMD hardware which is essentially APU architecture.
Edit: yes agree...
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