Aug 28 2013, 06:49 PM
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 28 2013, 12:08 PM)
hmm double layer you'll need to spend more on the whole system - calipers, might as well go for larger discs to benefit from the better servo/caliper, then may need to upsize rims to accomodate the huge calipers/disc...
actually, from personal experience and also echo'ing what david/other members has said, slotted + drilled rotors have a much better braking feeling. (or it could be the pads, hard to say since i changed both rs pads and rotors at the same time, and the ebc have the same general feeling and that "turbine shaving sound" on very hard braking rofl)
whether it actually contributes in better braking, hard to say. and you'll definitely have to live with the higher brake pad wear (which also means more dust, btw) and higher rotor/braking noise.
and of course as discussed earlier, potential cracks that may or may not happen.
in example: elton cracked 2 discs in 3 months, i used mine for a year or 2 AT LEAST and only developed VERY MINOR cracks that you can't notice until you squat down at the wheel and look closely. (can show you on upcoming TT la)
hardcore folks long time dah changed their discs within 2-3 years la so... personally, i can live with it. the cracks are NOT dampening my performance nor are they producing additional noise/jitter and what not so far(won't know if the cracks extend, but as it is, nothing yet).
2 brake pads = ? or you meant rotors?
for ebc ultimax the price range is 150-180 iinm
ps: company blocked pentagon enterprise lol.
give them a call/visit and check lo
pps: get the model number, consider personal importing/other seller LOL!
their stock can be damn old and the pricing quite high
if for your saga still got new stocks that should come with the noise reduction shims, then ok to get from them la... nightstalker1993 please clarify further lolz
I think the feel have more to do with the pads than the rotors.actually, from personal experience and also echo'ing what david/other members has said, slotted + drilled rotors have a much better braking feeling. (or it could be the pads, hard to say since i changed both rs pads and rotors at the same time, and the ebc have the same general feeling and that "turbine shaving sound" on very hard braking rofl)
whether it actually contributes in better braking, hard to say. and you'll definitely have to live with the higher brake pad wear (which also means more dust, btw) and higher rotor/braking noise.
and of course as discussed earlier, potential cracks that may or may not happen.
in example: elton cracked 2 discs in 3 months, i used mine for a year or 2 AT LEAST and only developed VERY MINOR cracks that you can't notice until you squat down at the wheel and look closely. (can show you on upcoming TT la)
hardcore folks long time dah changed their discs within 2-3 years la so... personally, i can live with it. the cracks are NOT dampening my performance nor are they producing additional noise/jitter and what not so far(won't know if the cracks extend, but as it is, nothing yet).
2 brake pads = ? or you meant rotors?
for ebc ultimax the price range is 150-180 iinm
ps: company blocked pentagon enterprise lol.
give them a call/visit and check lo
pps: get the model number, consider personal importing/other seller LOL!
their stock can be damn old and the pricing quite high
if for your saga still got new stocks that should come with the noise reduction shims, then ok to get from them la... nightstalker1993 please clarify further lolz
I'd have to agree with the other guy that you should change your servo first before anything else. Speaking about discs performance, I'm using only stock standard TRW blanks with stock calipers, EBC Ultimax and Evo 3 servo and you know how hard i rape them plus few days back I've just test-driven a CR-Z and I can confidently say that my car actually have more braking power than that 'sports car' lol. The blanks can last for a year before they started cracking and even so it only costs RM150/pair to replace
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 28 2013, 12:47 PM)
I've seen people spending less than a pair of slotted+cross drill rotor price for a double layer brake servo and the improvement is far better than changing rotor alone.
Why is the need for you to complicate things further by changing additional items? dzul has already pointed out earlier that he's only running on stock standard RM97/piece rotors and I didn't see his brake toasted during speedfest.
No wonder workshops are mushrooming everywhere. So easy to make profit out of unnecessary things.
A short track like Speedfest won't be pushing your brake system anywhere near it's limit. Last time i went Dato' Sagor with stock discs, Bosch pads, stock calipers, stock servo and I did not even fade the brakes that day which is why people saying their stuff is 'track proven', I'd like to know which track first. Even if it's Sepang, how long your brakes can last before fading depends highly on the person's driving style or more precisely, braking style. Some prefer late-braking while some prefer to brake slowly but smoothly.Why is the need for you to complicate things further by changing additional items? dzul has already pointed out earlier that he's only running on stock standard RM97/piece rotors and I didn't see his brake toasted during speedfest.
No wonder workshops are mushrooming everywhere. So easy to make profit out of unnecessary things.
And yes, I shall repeat myself that one of the first things you should change should be the servo and brake pads(proper brakes pads, not local brands *cough*550c*cough*). These 2 should be more than enough to make a huge difference in your braking power.
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