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post Oct 13 2013, 05:36 AM

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For so many thousands matches of Dota/HoN/Dota2... 1st time, I got taught by a "PRO" which can't even differentiate "Passive", Unique Attack Modifier and Aura and feed like mad in the game.

His claim:
Lifestealer can't use lifesteal item one, 2nd skill(passive lifesteal) will off. LOL. thumbup.gif

New info, definitely new!

But, it's not effective, because the lifesteal item and the 2nd skill(passive lifesteal) are working. sad.gif

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post Oct 13 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(mengfart @ Oct 13 2013, 08:27 AM)
Seriously. After switching to D2, I don't have any idea whether the orb effect system still is there or not.

Does skadi stack with lifesteal?

I have no idea. LOL
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Lifesteal can still stack with Skadi for RANGE heroes.
Meele heroes can't.

SNY is not ORB.
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post Oct 13 2013, 01:53 PM

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The way you name them is more confusing...
QUOTE(am3rr @ Oct 13 2013, 12:26 PM)
got orb system. but better.

cara senang, passive orb bole satu. active orb bole banyak

passive orb= deso and sort()

active orb= mj and sort.(Passive Effect which can stack with everything, also can be found on heroes and items)

skill orb= overwrite everything.(It's actually an Unique Attack Modifier like explained above.)

best example weaver, passive orb, deso + mj.

test sendiri utuk better knowledge
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Simple thing is:
Unique Attack Modifier, can only use one effect.
If you have Desolator + Helm of Dominator, you can only use the effect of either one, NOT both. Because both of them is Unique Attack Modifier.

Passive Effect, can stack like crazy.
You can have Sange & Yasha(Passive Effect) + Helm of Dominator(Unique Attack Modifier) working together! thumbup.gif
But, 2x(or more) Sange & Yasha on a same hero is useless. Like you can't buy many Mekanism on a same hero to spam heal.

Aura, can stack like crazy too. Aura is an passive effect shared for all.
You can have Vladmir's Offering(Aura) + Helm of Dominator(Unique Attack Modifier) + Sange & Yasha working together! smile.gif
But, 2x(or more) Vladmir's Offering on a same hero is useless. Like you can't buy many Mekanism on a same hero to spam heal.
If 2 or more heroes have Vladmir's Offering, they also can't stack. Only 1 will work.

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post Oct 13 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 13 2013, 02:44 PM)
SnY changed into not orb effect in D2 i forget when
mekanism they nerf it cant use in same time to prevent spam heal....

one think i quite curious is the naix life steal, if opposite HP is getting lesser, the life steal also getting lesser.... i wonder buy one life steal item get a constant 10% life steal will be better or not.
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Buying constant lifesteal is better...(because naix's 2nd skill lifesteal means enemy HP lesser, the lifesteal is lesser and also the damage is lesser too)
Item's lifesteal can stack with Naix's passive lifesteal.
And, it's not 10%, now they changed it to at least 15%.

SNY changed into "NON-ORB" in Dota 2 long ago. smile.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Tamatamana @ Oct 13 2013, 03:26 PM)
Skadi + Lifesteal currently works for melee heroes I think, probably a bug

EDIT: just tested, still working
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Think so...(doesn't matter if it's NOT, make Melee heroes stronger XD, I love Melee heroes).
Last time BKB can stack(BUG), you can use many BKB in 1 hero. LOL.

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post Oct 13 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Oct 13 2013, 06:48 PM)
YES U r right! I remembered back in dota 1 before dota 2 came out IceFrog announce in changelog SNY change into non-orb effect

also to add to everyone's concern diffusal is unqiue attack modifier oso...learnt myself a lesson when i played mirana and buy diffusal + deso  doh.gif
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I suppose they can't stack, right?
It'll be either Desolator's effect or Diffusal Blade's effect only, not both.
Unique Attack Modifier doesn't stack with another Unique Attack Modifier(have exception like Skadi).
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:46 PM

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post Oct 15 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 15 2013, 02:34 PM)
cant even connect to steam
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No problem here...

Maybe it's your internet connection... or maybe you should restart your PC.

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