thanks to GameFr3ak remind me one of my problem i din't realize...

i'm getting too focus on 'must add more weightplates!' each time i went to gym...
and i realize i din't do full range of motion sometime(after few heavy sets),even with support...

and i did read some interesting articles just now,check it out...
Article that agree with FullRangeOfMotion
Article that disagree with must perform FullRangeOfMotion all the time

so,what do you guys think about the result of (keep lifting heavy weight but without proper full range of motion sometime) VS (suitable weight with proper full range of motion) with your experience?

my plan is,keep on lifting heavier each time,but remind my supporter to help me perform full range of motion on every reps,move back to lighter weight if truly can't perform full range of motion on heavy weight...


sorry for bad english,i'm trying my best here,i swear i check my writing for any error more than once

HAPPY LIFTING!

got it just though maybe open a new threat would help other beginner like me...but i think i'll ask somewhere else...since i think i don't want to stay here any more...feel so uncomfortable...hehe

This post has been edited by 94brian: Aug 26 2013, 08:39 AM

from my experience,some can some just can't...maybe it's mindset,not sure...
me and my friend had been gym for a month...we start from same weight...
till now,i've increase about 20kg...while he only increase about 10-12.5kg...
i had always force myself,i tell myself sure i can lift heavier than previous 1,while my friend don't believe in himself while i kept on encourage him,but he still can't...
but that's just benchpress...while on military press,we actually hit the same weight from start till now...so anyway,believe in yourself but don't hurt yourself,lift as much as you can...

i think sifu above is trying to said...no support on the 1st few days,so you will know what weight is best for you to start with...not sure,the best just let him answer himself...

what i think is,you MUST teach your supporter,tell them how much you wan them to support as less as possible(cuz sometime they just help you lift all the way while you're not lift anything),tell them support you to perform Full Range Of Motion and balancing as well...i tested this for 2 days,i found my muscle is getting more soreness after teach my supporter a proper way to support...hope this help...

don't worry too much...
i have a suggestion for you...
don't lift too heavy next month,find a suitable weight that suit you no matter how light is it,don't stressed yourself becuz of you can't lift heavier,forget about add weight everytime,only add weight when you think you're ready or the day you feel great...like i said earlier,becuz of i kept on pushing myself,end up i'm using wrong form...you have to deal with it,everyone is different,don't push yourself too much but only believe in yourself,sure you can do it from lighter weight to the heavier weight,it just need time...stressing yourself out trying to lift heavier will only slow down your progress(this is what i experienced)...

about the tiredness,maybe you can try sleep earlier? drink coffee before workout or even try pre-workout supplement to see if it help...

and about the motivation,i actually don't need it anymore,because i'm in love with iron...

check this video by Elliot Hulse, it's been very helpful,hope it help you too...
check his other videos as well...

this is just my experience,i'm just a beginner like you,but i do tons of research,and i do know how being a beginner's feel like,even sifu-sifu here get annoyed by my question already...
but as always,Believe in yourself,but don't stressed,distracted yourself at the same time hope you get what i meant
Happy Lifting


oh,and by the way,i found this forum very helpful...http://forum.bodybuilding.com/...
go there if you can't find any answer here wish you lucks comrade...

full motion mean...no cheating,no swinging,proper form(from chest to the top'no locking'/no resting)...

hmmm...how weird this is actually your 1st post...
please,if you want to correct me just use your own ID...
i won't blame/hate you if you did so...

Member Group: New Member
Joined: Today, 07:21 PM

you called yourself a silent reader and being here for a long time with just register about few minutes ago??
oh please.....

i admit i have a poor english...
but someone just like to stab someone in the back.
i though encourage is better than accusing
someone need to study morale as well
hehe

haha xD how come i will shoot myself? hehe
but nothing la,not really care about being shoot...hehe

hmm...like that won't be slow down the whole progress?
cuz my thought is...for example,
[20 KG] for the 1st 8reps you can bench with no problem but fail only after 8reps...
[15 KG] you can bench all the way up to 12reps no problem and no need for any support...

so lets roughly count the total weight you have lifted from both...
20-20-20-20-20-20-20-20-17-16-15-14 = 222KG
15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15 = 180KG

what do you think? not sure my math work just roughly count

i'm outta here...
permanently

and so,you did actually create an account to reply me...damn! i should be feel so proud of myself xDDD

but to be honest,i accept the advice and i did try my best here...it's not me i don't accept,but it's you...
so now a person whom are poor in english cant workout? can't ask any question?
must ask in proper english included grammar and punctuation?
hmmmm...i think i get it...good english=good bodybuilder,poor english=bad bodybuilder eh?

and to be honest again...i don't blame you,just very disappointed that a pro should be helping a beginner instead of accusing,what's the point if you have a big body but lack in morale or personality?
i maybe lack in english,but atlease i still have my morale...
i just don't get it that's it...haha...

actually i do feel very happy that i'm getting someone pissed about myself xDDD
you can hate me as long as you like...but i will be back again and maybe ruined your day?? haha

not sure why...but some other people understand me very well :3 ...
sorry guys i'm outta here,looks like attacking me rather than helping me...goodluck to you all...