I got Gskill DDR500 2 x 1024MB, just test it out and found out the speed is not very desired. I set 3-4-4-8 in the bios, others all use auto modes. Supprisely to know that, I cant use 166MHz deviation at all, even i set 300MHz HTT, 3x LTD, 2.6v vdimm & v1.55 chipset voltage then the PC will hang there when POST.

The only choice i can use is 183MHz deviation @ 261MHz, 290MHz HTT, 3x LTD, 2.6v vdimm & v1.55 chipset voltage. With these setting, i can log into the windows and played the dota without any problem, but failed to prime for no more than 5 minutes! Beyond of 290MHz HTT will cause PC unstable to run the games or even log on the windows.

So what is the problem? Before that Iam using 384MB PC2100, i manage to go at 320MHz HTT with 100MHz deviation, and even can stably to prime it. But what now? Better RAM yet cause me cant to go higher HTT.

My cpu is sempron 2800+
motherboard: MSI K8N Neo3 (modded)

wahh.. kenot wait to receive my too. anyway, ur result really bad

yeah, duuno why... mobo problem?

when doing divider, plz raise up the value of MAL and RP.

what is MAL and RP? i cant find it through the manual...

and why i want to change the value in A64 tweaker, then the PC crashed... normal or not? Anyway, please kindly enlighten me... i will be back again on next wednesday as having a vacation...

This post has been edited by swgiant: May 26 2006, 05:33 PM

Max Async Latency. Most RAM needs 7ns+ to perform well. So as Read preamble....try 6.0ns

well, hard to explain. mebe others can guide u there. for me, im OC'ing in BIOS environment onli, havent use tweaker etc..

here mine, assuming HZ is a UCCC


p/s: the only thing u cant/unadvisable to change in windows environment are CAS/Tcl, 2T timing, and Controller mode

oh, dont expect em to go ddr600 easily

Hope this helps. I can go up to 270htt 1:1 @ 2.5V with the settings above.

Should be the settings.Try the settings posted by kianwee.

for your reference,
one of my 1GB KVR UCCC setting at 260MHz, 3-4-4-8,1T, 2.7v



This post has been edited by ahpaul82: May 27 2006, 09:18 AM

As promised,here's some usefull settings:

put default timing first la.. 3-5-5-10..
cannot 1T?

walao wehh.. tat timming super loose d. worth to OC using tat kinda timming arr??

its not about worth or not..
its about checking it as is it stable at rated speed, or RMA it goes
the OP didnt even mention if its tested and pass at rated speed with prime/memtest/etc


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oh, i see the MAL n RP are freakin tight

This post has been edited by e-jump: May 29 2006, 05:26 PM

just got my 2gb kit gskill HZseries from king's bulk. wonder how it goes. currently primming at 290HTT, using divider of 5:6, timming 3-4-4-8, CPC 1T at 2.7vdimm while my 146 at 1.42vcore. hope can pass this PI calc. 32mb..

ps : juzz realize this HZseries timming was 3-5-5-10@ DDR500

This post has been edited by gengstapo: May 29 2006, 08:05 PM

hmm....well, he is using 2 sticks on a single channel mobo..of course it cant clock well if compared to the dual channel mobos...single channel works best with 1 stick of rams...

huuuaaa!! cant get any higher here. current max 285HTT@ DDR475
still can boot at 300HTT@ DDR500 but kinda failed all test at any setting. even pumped the vcore & vdimm. mebe need more tweakin' in the memory setup.. haizzz

Dude, that SPD tab is not meant for user to see. It is meant for the motherboard. If the SPD-tab is 3-4-4-8, the motherboard will recognise it as 3-3-3-6 when you set everything to AUTO. The correct timing is labelled on your stick itself.

wat u tryin' to mention here??
dya mean all HZseries no need to put manually timming??

wat i mean by 3-5-5-10 was the label on the heatspreader of this HZseries. r u suggesting to use the default speed??

This post has been edited by gengstapo: May 29 2006, 10:51 PM

This is the SPD tab i was talking about. It shows 3-5-5-10 instead of 3-4-4-8 is because when non-overclocker set everything to AUTO in bios, it will not detact as 3-3-3-6 and that might cause some problems for non overclockers. Go through my post a few times if you still don't understand what I'm trying to say to you.

Can you take a shot of your heatspreader? I've never seen a 3-5-5-10 HZ on heatspreader before.

ouchh.. get it ady. well, just look at the heatspreader, its wrote 3-4-4-8. mebe wat i saw b4 was the cpu-z timming.

besides the setting, vdimm is very important to this ram as well.. believe me, u wont need more than 2.7vdimm for this ram.

currently i'm running my pc @ 270 1:1 2.65vdimm.. well i still think 2.65 is a bit high for this ram..

sure wan leh?? last nite kenot pass PI Calc. 32MB at 385HTT wif 2.6vdimm. then tried raise to 2.7vdimm then onli can pass(run twice free problem). mebe my HTT lil hihger than urs

this nite will try tweakin' again to get the 300HTT

385htt is for the cpu rite? ram u use divider? coz if u mean 385htt for the ram as well (1:1), then ur ram already running at 770mhz!

i think cpu htt is not the issue here.. the most important thing is the ram frequency.. thats why when we need to oc the cpu alone we need to use divider so the ram wont oc too much.. if i run my cpu at 350htt x 10multiplier, but using divider 150.. my ram will only run at its rated speed 250mhz.. and i think the most important here is the ram speed..

correct me if i'm wrong. i also started to confuse

If you can get the HZ to run at 280-290 1:1, you can consider yourself lucky to have a great module. Mine can do 280 1:1 @ 2.5V. 2.6 and above no go.

aiyakk.. sorry leh, typo. i mean 285HTT(divider 5:6) onli, highest prime able was 290HTT(divider 5:6) & both were at 2.7vdimm. i cant tweak nicely, dunno wat need to be tweak ady since whenever the HTT pass the 285, i need to raise the processor vcore ady. lastnite i can get 3Ghz but temp kinda high, so now running at 285HTT onli

Oh no, after adjust the MAL and RP in the bios then the Windows failed to boot. how come?

probably too tight
what did u put..??

as for me, i did trial n error, took me 3 friggin day to find a stable settings
so, be patient when tweaking..

p/s: did u know what each of those timings are for?



This post has been edited by e-jump: May 31 2006, 08:33 PM

i also did to try and reset the jumper... Cant find any value that allows me to boot properly... sigh! thanks that picture.. i will follow it...

This post has been edited by swgiant: May 31 2006, 09:45 PM

The 3-5-5-10 is normal for new batch of HZ if i'm not wrong.
bmbk who bought the same ram from me got tons of errors with 1 stick in memtest suddently after few days of tweaking.RMA?Replacement?

i dont facing any prob wif king' g.skill HZ 2gb kit..
after slot em', i just boot BIOS to the default max setup. i just change lil' setting such timming, put divider, decrease the ldt multi & some other setup for the RAMs. dunno wat wrong, my opty temp was high. hence, i just run my rig at 285htt x10, divider 5:6 & vcore 1.4v while vdimm at 2.6 onli. mebe need to change the cooler, currently using XP-90.

That's it.All the buyers are doing good with their HZ but bmbk got some problem with 1 stick after few days and he assume it as DOA,asking for refund someore. Hope his HZ don't have any burn mark.

gengstapo@
Your vcore still low and xp-90 is a good cooler too,how come your temp high.What is your temp?

@gengstapo why runs your ram at DDR 475? why not higher than DDR 500?

anyway, how to force my mobo to run 1T? sometimes i saw it runs 1T but soemtimes 2T... any idea?

oh snap..
edited

This post has been edited by e-jump: Jun 2 2006, 02:15 PM

well, dunno what wrong. even at 1.4v, my opty kinda hot & can reach 58c full load. mebe times to change the XP-90


well, i can run DDR500@ 300HTT, but my opty temp very high. wait after i change my cooler, u will c it running at 300HTT@ DDR500

gengstapo, u r talking about both ocing proc and ram...no wonder even irenic got headache...swgiant is looking for help to get the max oc for his ram la bro - same as i am...but ur talking about getting the best out of ur proc and mem --> 300HTT@DDR500... kasi fenin orang la...
anyway...what is the best u can get from ur mem?and btw, whatabout the bios version...any good suggestion on which bios to use...for dfi nf4 lp...

did u set the Command Rate to Auto???btw, what mobo do u have???

This post has been edited by remysix: Jun 2 2006, 10:30 PM

.. not to kasi penin org lerr. just to inform my situation as got ppl asking here.
btw, i think my opty cant do 300HTT@ DDR600, but havent try it out 1st. it seems mostly need high vcore. anyway, im using the latest official BIOS for my ultra-d(BIOS NF4LD406). i think the latest oso nice(mebe just for me larr)

@swgiant:
i think u need to load the default BIOS setting 1st, then onli try tweak RAMs setting slowly step by step

This post has been edited by gengstapo: Jun 2 2006, 10:37 PM

wahhh....HTT300@DDR600 wif 2gb kit huh...i hope u can hit that la bro...
i'm going BIOS mode now...gonna tweak again...and again...and so on till

damn...really no luck yet wif mine...wont budge at all...not even at 255@3448...

wow!! u mean ur speeding at 3.4Ghz??

3448 = 3-4-4-8

owhh ic. how come didnt realize

@remysix, luckily iam better than you. with 1:1, the max speed for the ram is 271MHz

...how i'd wish that would be possible...i meant the 3.4ghz on air part

can only do 253@3-4-4-8...tried so many settings already using 0704bta then 0406(2006) bios...then flash to 623Final...still no go...as i read that this UCCC didnt generate too much heat as it's cousin TCCD, so i think temp is not the issue and btw, already have 2x80mm blowing on it with extra help from my 120mm cpu-fan blowing down...
thinking of letting these stick go and re-plug my tccd...that tccd can do 308fsb...but it's 1gb kit...haiya, really no luck la this one...but will try my luck again
if not, garage sale la

This post has been edited by remysix: Jun 5 2006, 02:32 PM

Damn, my mobo cant do 1T/2T memory timing manually. Have to adjust the RP and MAL to make it run at 1T timing. But cant find any value that suite my current settings... sigh, poor mobo.

oittt...what mobo r u using...cannot set it manually...so what did ur 271fsb earlier running at...2T???

1T, becoz i adjust the RP and MAL. I rather want my cpu speed goes higher than memory speed.

hmmm...i switched my ram sticks in the orange slot (A to B and B to A)and voila, memtest86+ pass 260@3448...
gonna push it higher... wish me luck!

tat was nice. i think i need to stop OC'ing my system for now until i manage to get better cooling, mebe ninja. my XP-90 seem useless to be paired wif opty or mebe my opty batch was hot

how hot r u...i meant the proc la not u literally
i'm using xp120 wif delta thundering ...idle at around 37-39 depends on night or day time...full load around 49-51...same temp as my chipset one...
ops...kinda off-topic already la

This post has been edited by remysix: Jun 6 2006, 05:55 PM

hahaa.. when my xp-90 paired wif any athlon64 family tat i ever used, idle around 34c-36c, while on-load can get 52c-54c onli. but, since the day 1st i use opty(170) idle temp was 40c-43c, while on-load over 60c. aint it hotter??

current situation is same oso.. wonder Y

aiya bro...need me to tell u ka...

mine: AMD 144
urs: AMD 170
mine: Idle 38c
Urs: Idle 40c
mine: single core
urs: dual core

and why dun u guess which part of the processor that produce those huge amount of heat?

.. u didnt get me arr?
check-out siggy, the roadmap
now using onli single(146) but the temp still as same wif my 170 lastime..

ooo like that one aaaa...hehehe...silly me...
so faster la get the ninja one...also thinking of getting the ninja or big typhoon...but wif only around 2-3c drop from my xp120...doesnt really make it any diff in my oc la...

well, i think XP-120 already nice maa oso can be paired wif high-speed 12cm fan.
wonder if i put more fan(to casing) can help me out

i duuno why that ninja wont help me too much in the way of cooling... loaded temp is 50c+ and idle temp is 38c. By the way, iam tired to play with the settings for the memory. just let it run at 261MHz @ 3-4-4-8 and 290HTT. But it is ok, else i think the memory will easily get spoiled

i think 1st, heatpipe issue
2nd, the clip provided does not match.

Then how to fix it ah?

b4 switching into ninja, wat HSf dya used??
if ninja temp oso lit dat, guess need to use WC ady

before switching, iam using original sempron HSF... WC? r u trying to say water closet, toilet? hahha... any what does it mean?

WC= WaterCooling..

may i hijack this thread.. lol.. sorry
i'm using the same ram as the threadstarter..
but then, uknow what..
i can ony push this ram until Memclock=250Mhz at 2.6 V 3-4-4-8

Damn,...

i heard that it can reach 270 Mhz..

what should i do??

thnx~!!!

It can reach 270 or more if you're lucky enough.I've read through the net and most of them said if you manage to clock it 270 or more that's ang pau.

you can reach higher speed if you try tweaking A64tweaker summore

mine currently running at 265Mhz, 266 fail. still teakin' my RAMs

do you have the screenshot of the tweaker?

and can i copy it form your tweaker???

thnx!~!

i'm alil bit lost in tweaking this thing..
dun have any idea at all.. DAMN..
coz whenever i push beyond 250MHZ.
always got fail in memtes 86+

uccc @ 260-265


p/s: ignore the speed. as this is a 24/7 rig on power saving mode =__="

I played a lot the settings, and noticed MAL and RP do the tricks. Try to mess with those setting. As my mobo dun allows me to adjust those field too much, so i cant pump the gskill to the max. sigh, maybe bios problem...

wat is ur MoBo dood??

He is using Samsung UCCC 2 x 1GB ram too but from Teamgroup. try to follow its... I read quite of the sites, found out s939 has better OC capbilities than s754, especially the RAM... duuno i had made a wrong assumption or not...

^ the great OPB's guide
altho doesnt do justice for me

its nforce4 have better capabilities to oc better than nforce3 ;___;
esp on better bios options n more stable voltage supplies

This post has been edited by e-jump: Jun 21 2006, 09:48 AM

and seems Team Xtreem @ UCCC users face less trouble than gskill @ UCCC users... sigh!

my mobo is DFI nf4 ultra infinity.
im using opty 144 socket 939.

anyway, here's mine as per requested
hope might help abit..


Attached thumbnail(s)

may i ask..
which version of tweaker should i use then??
and is there any differences between those versions?


thnxxx...

doesnt mind which version..
its juz the layout arrangement and few added options
main advance options still the same

i already tried to tweak my ram... i can only push it until 255MHZ..

maybe the number is not good?
the Dram configuration maybe.... ?

damn...really2 frustrated though with this gskill lol...

mebi ur batch is not that good, since mine can get 260Mhz

hmm whenever i did the memtest 86+ will get around 1 or 2 errors tho.. for 260MHZ can i just ignore it??..
hahahha

1 or 2 errors only? which test
just use the setting n chech next week if the error went away

oh, my xtreem sticks do have errors in memtest@265 3-4-4-8.. as long superpi 32m ok, no prob for me
but so far, its great at 260 3-4-3-8

maybe ur sticks limit is 255-260.. try tightening the timings instead

Fast test SuperPI 32M 2x1GB OCZ EL GOLD GX XTC PC4000 DDR500 UCCC @ DDR540, 3-4-4-8,1T,2.7v

p/s: mainboard is MSI K8N NEO2-PLATINUM, BIOS 1C