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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 5 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Sep 5 2013, 10:54 AM)
Xiraltiy you can check S4. iinm they are using pentile display too but you wont see any pixellation  smile.gif

really interested in Z1 but i still dislike the display panel... still have poor viewing angle
triluminous display is gorgeous but on a lousy display panel which contribute to poor viewing angle
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Wonder what you mean by poor viewing angle, do you check on the XZU display? Z1 has the same display panel, don't think viewing angle has any concern. nod.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Sep 5 2013, 11:06 AM)
probably that cos i remember reading something about black b/g for its navigation key and the image pop
if it is a diff panel than XZ, then it is  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Please check on XZU for the Tri-luminous and X-reality to be impress. cool2.gif
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post Sep 6 2013, 11:03 AM

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For every Note 3 fans out there, check out Alcatel OneTouch Hero, and for this thread, i love Z1.
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post Sep 6 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Sep 6 2013, 11:06 AM)
ehh u already buy it? I assume love = owner  laugh.gif
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Love from first sight, but the phone kinda obese... shakehead.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 05:00 PM

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Anyone saw this comparison between Z1 vs 1020? Or was i simply slow poking? Z1 seems good.

http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/09/sony...era-comparison/
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 12 2013, 09:59 AM)
Even straight look, the Z1 screen also no way near the G2. (or any flagship phone in market)
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Don't said on some user don't care viewing angle, below is kind of normal angle when we look the phone lying at table.
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Andrew, i know you are pissed, but don't judge too fast yet, really. From the photo you attached, it just seems like the brightness is different. Is better to have comparison between this phone and ZU since you are familiar with ZU and may get the idea of how the screen quality compared. Out of topic, sick of Samsung Touchwiz, been using S2 for 2 years, Sony captured my eyes recently, even Xiaomi 3 looks good. Hate to have one company dominate the market.
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 12 2013, 10:05 AM)
99% user compare show Z1 is not Z Ultra screen quality, and the tester already mention both test under same brightness.

Below is both phone at around 50% brightness and adapt to lighting conditions.

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This sounds bad shocking.gif ...if Z1 compared to ZU by using same parameter, then should be comparable. But Z1 and G2 using same parameter is not comparable in my opinion, different manufacturer and screen type tends to have different output even though using same adjustment. If they using different panel manufacturer causing quality variance, then Sony the one to blame, pushing the production without control the quality.
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 12 2013, 10:15 AM)
I do play under water for my Z, after that, I feel.. nah... not really going to use under water. I never put in water for my later Tablet Z and Z Ultra.

It is not that useful as you though. Some more now the Z Ultra screen will get mad even water drop on it, the screen sensitivity make water drop as input...  rclxub.gif

Just give water proof as extra add-on but not a daily use feature.
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Your feedback to Sony is much appreaciated, LOL. Seems like high demand on Sony product doesn't bring the best outcome.
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post Sep 14 2013, 03:04 PM

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Guys, this looks promising, low light photo captured in neighbor country.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xperi...-photos-268692/
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post Sep 14 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 14 2013, 03:28 PM)
I think the screen is quite bright..
The claim about viewing angle is that every other manufacturer manage to use a screen which doesnt have viewing angle problem, why does sony still use a bad viewing angle screen?
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im still holding these LCD panel lotteries claim, i believe they may have leftover, but from the organization point of view, those lower grade LCD can always be put in lower end phone, hence no problem depleting stocks.

Second point is, although im not 100% sure, the Tri-luminous and some enhancement over the screen should be tie to the display quality, is not all screen can be claim Tri-luminous or what. Else Sony will facing a big liability issue by claiming their product Tri-Luminous but supplying none.

The thing is, from most of the hands on, there are variance in display quality, my suspect is Tri-luminous display panel supply hasn't stable yet, and Sony rushing to produce the phone for IFA, or any strategic timing, thus the sample phone might use the old panel. But their main point showing off for product introduction is the camera, smoothness, and the phone capability. ZU has gain Sony some good reputation in screen and introducing those Tri-luminous, x reality and opti contrast, so they focus on another agenda this time. But reviewer is always nit picking on stuff and Sony can always said those are beta product, is not final version, all preview may not held 100% product offer in market.

Lastly, Sony using multiple manufacturer for the display panel is true, no organization will focus on one supplier, that would be risky, for the quality of multiple manufacturer, im not sure on display quality. Sony is not stupid, for all the nay sayer or observer, please wait til the actual product offer in the market before comment. All preview unit might not represent the final unit.

*one more note, wondering if Malaysia has Samsung hired bashing boy like oversea, heheheheh. brows.gif

Above claim is only from my own perspective, viewer discretion is advise. Dont attach me.
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:44 AM

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For those who can read chinese or like google translate
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/...-Honami-review/

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post Sep 19 2013, 11:47 AM

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From the link i post above, viewing angle seems good!!!!
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:43 PM

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ow moving onto the Z1, Sony can't use completely finished Z/ZL panels since they don't have triluminos backlight. What is possible is that Sony used e-IPS again at least in pre-production/prototype Z1s with triluminos backlight, which would explain the stark differences between screen quality of Z1 reviews that are about a week old, and the newer reviews which all say that the Z1's display is the bee's knees.

Now what we don't know is if indeed Sony has decided to use a mixture of e-IPS, AH-IPS and S-PLS (I really doubt S-PLS since Sony has pretty much never went to Samsung for its LCDs, it stopped using SLCD tech after it sold its share to Samsung altogether), if that is the case then we'll see plenty more reports of screen discrepancies beyond the yellow hue (which I hope for the sake of all the new owners - Congratulations on your new phone btw, I hope that you enjoy it a lot - is similar to the glue issue on the iphone 4, and not the dreaded yellow screen issue of the Xperia S).

There is, however, one way to definitively see if the screen is e-IPS or AH-IPS, and that is (wait for it) a USB microscope, preferably one that has 200+x magnification. e-IPS has the same subpixel structure as the Z, whereas AH-IPS has the same subpixel structure as the Z Ultra. If at all possible, I would urge the new owners of the Z1 to put their screens under a USB Microscope and see which screen they have, USB microscopes with 200+x magnifications go for about $80-100 on amazon.
I know it is a bit outlandish to suggest this, but it will provide definite results i.e. if Sony has indeed used a display lottery with the Z1, then the different subpixel layout will easily give it away.

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