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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 17 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 17 2013, 03:37 PM)
but but but... from the past launch price of sony flagship model u posted, all price are RMxx99 de...
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hahah.
then 2199. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 17 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 17 2013, 03:42 PM)
you want it cheaper or more expensive?  hmm.gif
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cheaper la. best 1599.. but i know impossible. hopefully 2199.
just ask u if 2249 as hypothetical question. will sony still be win then? laugh.gif

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post Sep 17 2013, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 17 2013, 03:45 PM)
haha... btw, any launch price indication in SG yet?
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according to this news la,
http://asia.cnet.com/sony-xperia-z1-availa...98-62222374.htm

$998
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post Sep 18 2013, 12:37 PM

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why would people ask a regular sales person at Sony store.. i think they also have no clue la. when the higher authority in Sony Malaysia decides it's time to let people know, they will officially announce it. Why even bother to ask someone who don't know to guess. I guess they get the same question a lot at every Xperia flagship launch until they just simply give any answer just to satisfy customer's question.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 18 2013, 12:51 PM)
frankly, u nvr try to ask Sony Mobile Dealer. doh.gif
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aiya u again.
don't bother reply me next time. 90% of ur reply has no relation to what i'm talking one.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 18 2013, 06:21 PM)
Imagine.

Sony come out with Z1 with 10MP but the sensor size is same. So the pixel is bigger (like HTC One).

I'm sure the low light photography is even better.

What I mean is, HTC is 4MP but Z1 is 10MP. So Z1 have lowlight capability of HTC One and still able to shoot high resolution like 10MP.  hmm.gif

But seems like Z1 is following Nokia way. But halfway la. Since Nokia is 41MP while Sony is 20MP.
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I saw what you did with your siggy.. lololol.
anyway, i really rather Sony maintain 13MP rather than going up to 20MP. Why? Because unlike Nokia, Sony cannot really make each pixel sharp. Since Nokia 1020's photo samples on 41MP, really is up to their claim "shoot first, zoom later". Sony one.. 100% crop is always blur anyway. 20MP just mean bigger photo size only.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 18 2013, 06:24 PM)
Yeah.  You zoom with wings if the object you wanna snap cannot reach by leg.
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lol.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 18 2013, 06:40 PM)
whistling.gif  whistling.gif why?
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because i talk east, u talk west.

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post Sep 18 2013, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 18 2013, 07:11 PM)
okok...  biggrin.gif
ehem... so u wanna get this phone la.. brows.gif
FOC your Xperia Mini lo...
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what's FOC? Trade in? Haha don't want la. Want to keep it as collection.
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post Sep 18 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 18 2013, 09:16 PM)
cry.gif why u no sold to me sad.gif
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the damage from cham liao one. usb flap came out, the silver trim gone and plastic crack because i drop it many times. sell RM50-100, i rather just keep it for collection.
battery life also drop edi. can feel it.

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post Sep 18 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(nantesd @ Sep 18 2013, 11:13 PM)
at taiwan can get the phone on the spot at 19 sept 2013 jor~
1st 150 customer still can get free QX10 and SBH50~~ drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
envy~~~~
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quote whole post, malu aku.
i could be wrong actually, as I just find out all the Z1 prices are still just "estimated".
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post Sep 19 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 19 2013, 06:33 PM)
just wondering, really got people getting Z1 instead of Note 3 at RM2399?  hmm.gif
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why not? not everybody choose based on specs. if so, nobody would buy iPhone. but iPhone lovers would argue specs isn't everything, iPhone has its other advantages (like it's smoother or more stable), which is very true, and so do Z1 has its own advantages.

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post Sep 19 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 19 2013, 07:54 PM)
before this, many predict it will go on sale with price of rm2199 and below xzu rrp.
revealed higher. similar spec with xzu.
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yalor i'm one of them. disappointed. at least lower than those sony stuffs who predicted rm2599 haha.
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 19 2013, 11:43 PM)
Quoted from XDA

Internet nowadays really problematic, all sorts of people claiming this and that and causing confusion, dilemma, and confidence drop. this is a cruel world, people attacking each other for the sake of themselves.
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saw that post too. very nice post. backed up with "proof".
but i think it's better to quote the complete post so the readers here will understand more where the e-IPS etc came from.

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post Sep 20 2013, 10:31 AM

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haha. I guess Z1's screen is at least similar if not same to Z.
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While Z Ultra's similar if not same HTC One
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post Sep 20 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 20 2013, 05:55 PM)
tldr summore in chinese, lazy read long chinese article

but from the pictures i can see note 3 screen seems to be better wo... colour seems more accurate compared to ori image sos. and the loud speaker test, Z1 lose hard here
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According to one girl name Erica Griffin (you can google her up. her reviews and explanations on details are really based on her on research and measrements and not from internet available information)

Right, according to her, AMOLED actually has more accurate colour gamut compared to IPS screen

What happened in previous Galaxy phones was that Samsung had deliberately oversaturated the colours. So when people say Galaxy S3 is oversaturated, they're right, but it's not AMOLED's fault, it's the software's fault.

But since Galaxy S4, Samsung had leave the colour meters "more natural" on the colour gamut, according to the results of the colour meter measurements done by her.

Now, on the LCD, the colour gamut is actually narrower than the colour gamut on AMOLED (the wider the colour gamut, the more accurate the colour is according to true colours that human eyes can see). If LCD on natural colour meter mode were to put side by side to AMOLED, it will look as if LCD is undersaturated.

So what most manufacturers do was, they try to emulate AMOLED screen by oversaturating the colours! This is done by deliberately adjusting the colour meters to a more saturated ones (LG G2 according to her colour meter measurements), or by deliberately adjusting the gamma output put make it more saturated (HTC One and Z Ultra). Oversaturating means no more accurate colours, because at some more you will see too dark, and some part you will see too bright compared to the original colour.

So actually what we consumers see as "Good Colour Quality" is actually over saturation of colours, except Galaxy S4 and Note 3 and perhaps newer Galaxy series. Manufacturers found out we actually like oversaturated colours. We can say we like more natural colours but the moment we like what Triluminus or HTC One display, that's actually over saturated colours.

But the downside of AMOLED is that it's not suitable for heavy users, as the screen will degrade overtime due to how the sub pixel works and it's not preventable, according to her.

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post Sep 20 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 20 2013, 06:57 PM)
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awesome explain... will added on S4 thread...
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but please don't quote me.. i'm shy sad.gif
just copy and paste biggrin.gif

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post Sep 20 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Sep 20 2013, 08:15 PM)
In contrary, the same reviewer said that Sony XZU Trilimunous display capable of producing slightly wider range of color compared to other display types, on her review on XZU.. If I recall correctly from her video that I watched.
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nothing contrary here. It's true she said that, but she also said AMOLED has wider range than Trilimunous. She only said Trilimunous has slighter wider colour range than other LCD.

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