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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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post Sep 6 2013, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Sep 6 2013, 01:18 AM)
I was comparing both phones with my current Note 2s.

What I liked on the Note 3 over my Note 2:

Higher PPI
Slimmer, Lighter, Faster
Brighter screen

What I deemed unnecessary:
4k video

What I am doubting:
Can the battery life trump my current Note 2 with the 100mAH extra juice.
Will the dev community will be as large as the N7100 (N7105 is pathetic), if possible like the S/S2/S3/S4

What I liked on the Z1 over my Note 2:
Shutter button
1/2.3" CMOS sensor vs 1/3.2" CMOS censor
Awesome screen (as proved by the XZU)

What I am doubting:
Can the battery life trump my current Note 2 with the 100mAH extra juice.
Will the dev community will be as large as the N7100 (N7105 is pathetic), if possible like the S/S2/S3/S4
If no one is able to root this device, I will refrain from buying it.
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As for note 3, I think the battery life will definitely be better than note 2. If note 3 carries on the greatness of note2, I dont see why there won't be a large dev community for it.

Anyway, as for sony. It will definitely be root-able. Battery life i dare not say, have to wait for reviewers, but sony do have the stamina mode which will preserve battery. If you are not using the phone, your battery will hardly drop.
As for the dev community, I always notice that samsung community will be bigger due to more samsungs sold compare to sony. So there will be more choices on samsung than sony i think( for roms,kernels etc).

Also, I've noticed that from the forum of xperia z/htc one/s4 in xda, htc one have the most active thread followed by s4 and xperia z is the smallest one.

Another thing, don't you miss the ability to swap batteries on samsungs? You can't do that on sony.tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Sep 6 2013, 01:18 AM)
Note 3: 60fps at 1080p
3GB of RAM, how to fully utilise?
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Well, the more the better i guess. More future proof. tongue.gif
Also, with that much features in touchwiz and the ability for multitasking will be needed heavily, 3gb ram is needed i think.

QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 6 2013, 01:24 AM)
One thing I suspect that gives the Note 2 its awesome battery life (other than the fact that it's 3100 mAh), would be the fact that it's underpowered.

Inside the Note 2 are basically the processors of the Galaxy S2, which is an older slower CPU/GPU setup.

With the Note 3/Z1, they're both up to date high end CPU/GPU running at FullHD..
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Yea, I notice a thread in xperia z xda forum where the guy undervolted his proccessor as well as some tweaks and got 6 hours of sot. which is quite impressive. smile.gif

So maybe can undervolt to save juice?
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post Sep 6 2013, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 6 2013, 01:52 AM)
Doesn't rooting any of the current Sony phones cause a loss of the TA partition and therefore loss of the Bravia Engine and X-reality? They ask you to root by handing them your IMEI and tracking that you're rooted therefore out of warranty....

I could be wrong.......was it the bootloader.... but rooting a Sony seems to have more steps to avoid messing things up than a Samsung.
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That was the bootloader.Once unlocked, you will lose bravia engine. And yes, root can be quite tedious at times.


QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Sep 6 2013, 01:59 AM)
Rooting a S3/Note 2 generation Samsung only takes 30 seconds
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He's the TS from note thread, he should know that best. tongue.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(dc28yk @ Sep 9 2013, 08:57 PM)
I cant pick between a Lumia 1020 and Z1.

I love the Z1 design.. but Lumia photo is pretty bad @ss
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If you have the money, pair the Z1 with the qx10/qx100. Then you have the good design with a super bad ass camera. smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 11 2013, 09:08 PM)
Hi gais. I am a HTC One owner. It's Ultrapixel camera is a joke and I am butt hurt. I will buy this Z1 the moment it is out.

Black looks like what I want. Hur hur hur. Infoeye features look good. Now I hope the Sony customisation can improve further cause HTC Sense is really very good, better than Samsung Touchwiz.
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Not quite sure about that cause sony is quite close to stock android compare to other manufacturer. smile.gif

Btw, you don't mind about the screen? The screen will most likely be a downgrade from htc one quality wise.

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post Sep 11 2013, 10:04 PM

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Z1 can already be rooted.. sweat.gif
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/11/xperia-z1-gets-root/
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:58 PM

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Actually I've been thinking for the qx10/qx100. If they cant be mounted on the tablets or ZU, maybe can just use some double sided tape to tape them? sweat.gif Just some stupid idea that ran across my mind just now.
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post Sep 14 2013, 03:34 AM

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z1 isnt even released yet and we have some "rumours" on z2.
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http://www.eyeonmobility.com/2013/sony-xpe...oming-ces-2014/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Specs-leak-...-Avatar_id47423

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post Sep 14 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 14 2013, 08:21 AM)
So means possible getting a crap TN/VA screen when buying first badge Z1?

And a lot review/ preview already out and destroy Sony Z1 panel.

Sony did a big wrong decision by using back those old TN/VA panel.

If the source is legit, it is really risky buying first batch Z1.

If Z2 rumors is true. Z1 is just out for nothing and Z2 covering up all the weaknesses of Z1.

Z2 rumors spec:
- S800 (same)
- 20.7MP but with 4K video record (this is the correct way since S800 support)
- 5.2" ~500ppi FHD display (possible small bezel?)
- 3GB RAM (follow trend)
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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Sep 14 2013, 08:35 AM)
yup... if it's true... worth to wait till few batches... even worth to wait till Z2 (if the rumours is true)... during that time Z1 price also cheaper
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 14 2013, 09:06 AM)
lol so fast... if this is the case then it is very uninteresting better get the z1
ok this show the bezel. looks like it is mainly uses for better reception. z2 will definitely be smaller bezel but since this does not bothers me, it's fine anyhow.
if wait for z2 to come out sure will think to buy z2 already...
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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 14 2013, 10:23 AM)
So fast Z2 rumors pop out sweat.gif
guess I made the correct decision to keep my current phone and wait for Z1 replacement but..it escalating too quickly lol
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Yea, might be better to wait for newer batches. Then it will be cheaper+ better display. rclxms.gif

IMO, Z1 is an improved Z while z2 is an improved and specs bump Z1. tongue.gif

Maybe Z3 only will have the s-master audio chip?? They might be keeping stuffs up their sleeves to prevent showing all their trump cards on one handset.sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 14 2013, 12:28 PM)
I won't be surprised with the rumours. Like I said before Sony tends to release 2 flagship in a year. So this z2 will most probably be set for release in 1st had of 2014. And by the time z2 release rumors of z3 will surface for 2nd half of 2014
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1 thing i guess we can confirm is the honami mini during q1 2014.

QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 14 2013, 12:38 PM)
The z2 catch up with note 3 and better disply. Thats more poison compare to z1.
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According to the link posted a few post before this, apparently z1 have 4 types of screen panel. They are all good panels, only the Z/ZL panels aren't that good..
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post Sep 14 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 14 2013, 12:48 PM)
By the time wait for new batch of z1, probably z2 already around the corner. According the rumour of z2 the screen is much power efficient, guess it worth the wait.
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Haha, you will lose your waiting game if you do that to techs. By the time you wanted to buy z2, z3 will be around the corner.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 14 2013, 01:35 PM)
i hope z2 will have an all new design as well. sort of bored with the omibalance design already
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i think they will introduce a new design language. Sony's trend is 1 design language per year..
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post Sep 14 2013, 02:05 PM

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Actually i wanted the feature of taking a 120fps video.. Can play around with slow mo.. tongue.gif
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Anyone can enlighten me whether 120fps is software or hardware based?

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QUOTE(N30rang3r @ Sep 14 2013, 03:24 PM)
actually viewing angle is not really important most of the time you would not look at your phone from a weird angle

just the display does not work well outdoors irks me  sweat.gif
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I think the screen is quite bright..
The claim about viewing angle is that every other manufacturer manage to use a screen which doesnt have viewing angle problem, why does sony still use a bad viewing angle screen?

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post Sep 14 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 14 2013, 06:04 PM)
nobody ever said the camera on Z1 is the best camera on a smartphone... only hardcore and blind fanboys will say that

but if you say the camera is the best on an ANDROID smartphone, then yes
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Actually that was what sony claimed if im not mistaken...sweat.gif
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 15 2013, 11:06 PM)
Rumors say next year Sony is going to release Z2 But I think it is impossible.

Z1 newly launch oct and Sony going to release new flagship next year CES @ Jan? just 2-3 months only
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You never know... But maybe not jan la, im guessing late q1. tongue.gif

Sony release 2 flagships per year according to tradition. But honami mini have a high chance to debut on ces 2014.
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 15 2013, 11:13 PM)
This year three/four hmm.gif

Xperia Z

Xperia Z Ultra

Xperia Z1

If ZL consider as flagship, then four flagship already
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Z ultra is a new addition to the xperia family. Its a different category which is a phablet. tongue.gif
So i guess from this year onwards we might see 3-4 flagships per year??

But i do hope sony will reduce the number of flagships to 2... 1 phone and 1 phablet...
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(emkay @ Sep 15 2013, 11:13 PM)
If price between Z1 & Z Ultra doesnt much different, I think I might go for Z1. But from reviews Z1 display is not good as Ultra.
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I would hold off claims on the display till we get to see the real thing..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445283
Lottery or not, we don't know.. but there was this guy saying "I have both devices XZU and XZ1 both have the same displays. And my Z1 is the first one available."

And i saw a video where the Z1's screen color and contrast was better than ZU..The white is whiter on the Z1.
Start around 2:31


This is comparison between note 3 and Z1.


Of course, there are also the bad viewing angle problem which we all see on most of the reviews.. So can't be sure about it since there is many different quality of screen..
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(nantesd @ Sep 16 2013, 10:19 PM)
hope Z1 won dissapoint me as Z b4...
i really like the recent xperia outlook design rclxms.gif
but there are always a imperfect... e.g the screen of Z.....

haha...ytd my HTC sensation XE touch panel got problem,
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seem like i cant wait for Z2 already~~
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ITS A SIGN!! icon_idea.gif
TIme to change hand phone.. tongue.gif
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 16 2013, 05:04 PM)
superior auto mode is so damm nice

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browse through the comments and found an explanation for the handheld twilight mode in Z1
all the night shots took by the reviewer in tht blog is using superior auto mode. wonder what magic it can produce with HHT
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Interested to know about the HHT mode.. but how come i didnt hear anyone mention about it? If it is really that awesome, they should've mention about it during launch..

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