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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V1, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:12 AM)
I don't see the need for a non-LTE variant since our telcos are starting to migrate to LTE nowadays
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agree. they should only bring in LTE variant
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Got free smart watch or qx10 like UK then i dont mind 2399 la, infact i will be the 1st to buy.

Otherwise 2399 is a bit steep
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 19 2013, 10:06 AM)
smart watch... not interested...
qx10... same camera spec as the one in Z1, only added optical zoom. if getting Z1 already, prefer to get qx100
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not interested at least you can sell away the freebies and get extra cash, like rebate
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pay extra RM200 - 300 and you get 1 week+ of extended e-penor length tongue.gif

some people is willing to pay to do that... but for me, better not la. learn from my past mistakes already. show off for 1 week +, in 1 month time you see there's plenty of the same model around, and you see the price will make u feel a sudden pain in ur pocket. (unless u real rich)
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 19 2013, 02:40 PM)
screen size same as S4. but the overall phone size/dimension, i think Z1 is between S4 and note3
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slightly taller than s4.... thanks to the bezels.....
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iinm the charging dock replaces the usb cable right? so it's only the dock and also the ac adapter. got headset ?


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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 19 2013, 04:19 PM)
will include doesn't mean replaces. i just hope not
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i hope it wont replace as well

because from this link, this is actually Z ultra review from gsmarena. they get the dock in box as well, but no usb cable

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_ultra-review-975p2.php
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QUOTE(Clareen @ Sep 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
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according to dynamics project stock available on next Thursday. Limited stock so it's base on first come first serve basic ya.
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cost only RM2120 ? blink.gif
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if come with dock inbox i will wait until launching day and see what other stuff they put up for freebies
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considered ok edi la Z1 price

if you compare to *cough* lumia 1020 *cough*
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what's with all the hoohaa about the shatter proof sheet? can some1 enlighten me ? i'm aware of it since xperia Z days but didn't pay too much attention to it during that time
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 20 2013, 02:47 AM)
hmmm. they didn't list the battery life as a disadvantage. i guess it not bad but could be much better

and good to see the screen is finally out from the disadvantage part for a sony device



seems there's really no headset as well. not that i mind, i got a better headphone for music, but i expect one for a expensive flagship device.

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QUOTE(acid427 @ Sep 20 2013, 03:30 AM)
Um, from what I heard.

- Once u tear it off, warranty will void.
- easily scratched
- To replace the shatter proof film will cost u around RM1k+, because it come with screen panel. Cannot replace the sheet alone. biggrin.gif

So, must put another SP to protect the shatter proof film.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 03:33 AM)
Don't give fark to Sony, anti shatter just a piece of SP just a little hard than normal SP, why need to change whole screen? Nah, Sony
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so basicly its a sp which will void the warranty if u remove it. so why so much hate for it ? y would some1 remove it purposely before the warranty end ?

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gsmarena give good ratings for the screen. it's not the best, but definitely better than XZ and also better than some other competitors. but they're also aware of the current issue

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A word of warning is due as we've been getting a lot of user reports that not all Xperia Z1 units out there have the same quality screens. It seems some of them come with panels, which have the same properties as the one on the Xperia Z. These of course, may be pre-production samples or as conspiracy theiorists suggests, leftover panels from the Xperia Z production line. Whatever the case, have this one in mind when you are picking up yours.


so i guess for those who wanna buy the phone soon in coming weeks. best to go to a shop with plenty ready stocks and test them yourself.
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QUOTE(acid427 @ Sep 20 2013, 03:39 AM)
If can find a replacement SP with Sony logo baked on it, nothing to worry then. biggrin.gif
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so... in the end its just the sony wording ? just my own opinion and taste la, i do find the front more sexy without the sony logo tongue.gif
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and i noticed gsmarena wasn't particularly good in reviewing the camera... where are all the night / low light shots ?

and it seems almost all reviewers missed the handheld twilight mode, they don't even mention about it
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 20 2013, 09:06 AM)
disappointing. maybe because of the x-reality? gonna turn it off for browsing and check it out later.
I have to believe they put it on purpose. while it is removable it sticks pretty damn hard and imo it probably acts as a waterproof safety check.
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that's why i can't figure out why so many people don't like it. is it because of the SONY wording ?
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read some comments from gsmarena's battery test. it seems the poor browsing time of Z1 is because of chrome mobile. gsmarena method of testing the phones is use the stock browsers in the phones

according to one comment

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Web browsing time is betrayed by Chrome Mobile, I know because when I start to browse on it, specially if there's a lot of images on the page, even my phone gets pretty hot, like I was gaming hard on it, and the percentage starts to drop fast.
I seriously don't know why they use Chrome, but moving from it does improve the battery life.
Video playback is probably display thing, Sony's handsets do play a lot of video codecs out of the box, and most of them via hardware, so I don't think it's lack of optimization. Most likely display.


can't help but agree with him. right now im using chrome on my s3, and it's pretty hot now
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:52 AM)
Actually people like or dislike a brand is nothing related to a brand.

Example myself, I give up Sony after give a chance due to below few basic things where it is easier handle but Sony didn't do it.

  • Bad Viewing Angle screen at Z where I own, at 1st I talk to myself viewing angle not important, but it really important to me. I know Some people actually snap the comparison within Z1 and Note 3 here, the Note 3 look darker a lot when not view straight, actually this is AMOLED weaknesses when capturing, I had capture before last time when comparing a lot of phone, AMOLED got issue when capture in different angle, but in actual it not that bad. LCD wise can capture as real as what you see. Viewing angle is affecting general usage to me, not because of what people said you look screen from side. The fact is sometimes we only need to check the notification at phone when the phone is on side table, also when playing games like Temple Run. When above scenario, bad viewing angle is unforgiveness. Also we paid same amount or even more for a flagship, why we need to accept cheaper panel like TN or VA.
  • I am really happy actually when seen Z Ultra use good IPS panel, but the decision Sony use back VA or even TN panel for Z1 is not acceptable for me, I know... it might only certain badge but it looks like it happening, some already get the retail units, certain is as great as Z Ultra, certain is not. Means really possible Sony use back those left out stock bad viewing angle panel.
  • "Shattered Proof Sheet" - this is the most nonsense thing ever happen at mobile, what the point Sony use it, to make.believe your screen easier scratch? I know the use of this but it really useless by preventing the glass split out when break. But did ever Sony think it is too easier to scratch. After use Z, Tablet Z and Z Ultra, I notice it seems got something spray on top where it do help prevent scratch because I notice it won't get scratch easier in first few days usage, but after that few days, it will start scratch easily, once you get scratch, it will continue scratch badly.
  • Previously at least Sony not print the logo at that sheet, so we still can peel it off, but now it is print at that sheet, once peel off means take out the logo as well. Also from user report, warranty is void as well.
  • Even worst is, example Z Ultra, Sony is charging you RM 1,100 when you ask for shattered proof sheet replacement as Sony is replacing the whole LCD panel instead of the sheet only, kind of silly in my opinion.
  • Some will said apply screen protector is fine, but not everyone like screen protector, I give myself another change to use it, but still I hate screen protector.
  • Another is the bezel, don't you think Sony did too tick the bezel, it is increasing just for the sake of waterproof? Is the waterproof really matter in life? How many times you gonna swim your phone? I rather having water resistance is enough if water proof need to use up that thick bezel. Also the top and bottom is really too way huge, as seen comparison here, Z1 is only 5" but the body size is too similar as 5.7" Note 3.
  • Lastly is the firmware issue, I know Sony is damn fast releasing firmware this year, but what Sony did make people feel Sony release new firmware for fun, it might not happen to everyone, but still a lot facing it. The Z Ultra until now already 7 firmware get release, none of the know bugs get solved, also how could be Sony given more bugs in the 4th firmware and that is consider quite huge as it easier to get fake hang and SOD, this issue never solve even in the 7th firmware. Only certain people said solve, but those having it still having it, factory reset or phone repair never help.
  • The worst is now people report the fake hang and SOD also happen at Z1. If Sony cannot proper do that another crap optimize backlight feature, then better take out. Again probably due to different panel manufacture, certain user get pretty bad look when turn on that optimize backlight.
  • Also the optimize did by Sony in camera output is pretty bad, really bad, too much post processing, especially over noise filtering as well crazy high ISO auto pick. Take example, Lenovo mention using Sony camera as well but output is better, another is XiaoMi mention using 13MP Sony Camera which highly like the one inside Xperia Z. The output is extreme awesome. Comparing both equal to heaven and hell.
  • The new Z1 look better but if you check carefully it still facing the obvious not sharp enough image, I not said it is pretty bad but I am assure if this lens use by third manufacture, the result will ahead another level.
  • Sony always having this issue even on it own DSLT (Sony is DSLT not DSLR) but Nikon the one use Sony sensor always came out with much greater result. I can only said Sony had great hardware but weak programming group for camera part.
  • Last is the loudspeaker issue, some said is because of waterproof, is it really so? Some user that touch before others brand Japan phone, none is complaining about the loudspeaker weak issue. Waterproof is nothing as it is there for sometimes at Japan.
Above all, now I feel Samsung actually did much better, I can't said Samsung solid stable but at least Samsung won't have screen panel issue as well no need apply for Screen Protector, as well always good camera output.
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bro i think u misunderstand my statement... i was referring to the shatter proof sheet. not saying y so many people dislike it because of SONY the brand doh.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 10:16 AM)
Oh, sorry, my bad then, Haha!

Anyway above is my reason why I feel sad about Sony. Sony want continue grab people heart and be top, still a lot Sony did doing it.
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it's ok at least we get to know your point of view. as for me im just starting to get boring with samsung, now im going back to sony after 4 or 5 years, the last sony phone i had is SE W910i back to the old days.

already tried HTC before changing to samsung, and same as your view towards sony, can say i've given up on it. although htc one did impress me a bit, but i just don't have the heart to buy another htc phone

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