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post Sep 5 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 5 2013, 09:39 AM)
Cannot put real leather, it is torturing animal.
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no lah.. use leather from farm animal la.. the farm animal are breed for consumption anyway..
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post Sep 5 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(singa89 @ Sep 5 2013, 08:17 PM)
how much will qx10 and qx100 be?

qx100 is really tempting
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 05:44 PM)
No idea, this need ask the Sony designer.
Yalo, is not like we swim/throw the phone to water everyday. We not staying underwater.
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if you go on holiday you will appreciate the waterproof.. can put your phone beside swimming pool without worry,, swim2 then suddenly want to take picture, just go ahead grab you phone and snap.. imagine you bring this to a water theme park like sunway lagoon, and take video/picture while u slide down the slider. super awesome thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 9 2013, 06:14 PM)
Huh? You want to slide down using your RM2299 phone?  shocking.gif
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why not? hmm.gif i always want to take picture in water theme park, but sked phone get into water.. now its possible with the waterproof phone available
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 9 2013, 06:17 PM)
I never do this lo. And never intend to. Hehe.

And holiday I still trust DSLR than mobile camera.

Even let said didn't bring DSLR, also don't think will snap pool or beach under water.
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DSLR hard to bring because sked will get into water also.. i never try to freely take picture in a water theme park before as well, XZU is my first waterproof phone anyway.. but this is the idea i got in head since i had the waterproof phone..
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 9 2013, 06:20 PM)
later phone slip and you crash into your own phone.  tongue.gif

I love my phone. Never gonna do that yo.
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oh yeah for me i will.. laugh.gif what is the point having a waterproof phone anyway if you did not utilize it?

one of my occasional activity is camping.. it will be beneficial there too.. imagine its raining heavily at night, you are in a tiny camp, water is everywhere.. while other keep their phone safely in a waterproof bag, i can use it to watch movie yo. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 9 2013, 06:27 PM)
why you want to engage in anti-social activity during camping?  laugh.gif
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i guess u never go camping?.. watching movie is the most social activity at night especialy when is rainy, you can't do anything, so you may gather with others in a camp and watch movie. laugh.gif

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post Sep 9 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2013, 06:31 PM)
ya ya ya.... u r right le.... how old r u by the way.... during my teenage camping time there is no such tablet  / phone that can watch movie ..... miss the old time... what we can do that time was only tell ghost story + watch star + play poker. during raining habis.....
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i'm not that old. hehe.. before tablet and smartphone, i bring small laptop.. but depends on camping condition la.. since 2011 i always have smartphone or tablet standby when i go outdoor activity.. there are times when you are nowhere in the jungle or very remote area, you will appreciate the sweetness of mobile technology. wink.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 10 2013, 12:25 PM)
Just download the photo full size and proper name for easier comparison - http://www.mediafire.com/?a338x3g8sadye6d

My comment

Outdoor (the best highlight in red)
iPhone - Still stay strong & good result.
HTC One - Far object details is gone, check the top left building rooftop.
LG G2 - Sharp in details but photo look a bit less color. The best output for me.
Lumia 925 - As usual, Nokia output color weird.
S4 - Clear but seems not enough contrast.
Z1 - Color quite similar with S4, but details is not there, a bit wax look.
Macro - (the best highlight in red) Frank speak the person don't have idea how to snap macro
iPhone - As usual look good.
HTC One - OMG! what happen to the eye! and color over vivid. Yark!
LG G2 - Sharp in details but look boring and dull due to colorless.
Lumia 925 - Err! the worst, the color like shit!
S4 - Sharp and Clear and better contrast.
Z1 - A bit less contrast, 2nd best after S4.

Low Light - (the best highlight in red)
iPhone - As usual look good. Eh! iPhone photo still good.
HTC One - The wording can't see in proper already, still among the most vivid.
LG G2 - Strong noise reduction is apply, a bit wax look.
Lumia 925 - Details control ok, but the color still... Nokia need to learn more on color.
S4 - Clear but a bit too bright and less contrast.
Z1 - I find this time finally Z1 given the best result, clear, and sharp in details.

Very Low Light - (the best highlight in red)
iPhone - Too much noise.
HTC One - Color is over saturation and blur.
LG G2 - Strong noise reduction is apply, a bit wax look.
Lumia 925 - Details control ok, but the color still... Nokia need to learn more on color.
S4 - A bit noise and darker.
Z1 - 2nd time Z1 given the best result, clear, and sharp in details.
Conclusion:
The Best Camera - LG G2
The Best Night Shoot Camera - Sony Xperia Z1
The Worst Camera - Nokia Lumia 925
2nd Worst Camera - HTC One
Balance in between Camera - S4
Still Strong & Good Result - Apple iPhone 5
* The test will be much complete if include also latest Samsung Galaxy Note 3 & Nokia Lumia 1020, the Best might shift place in this case.
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Andrew u got G2 already meh? i so jelly.. vmad.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 10 2013, 12:55 PM)
oh doh.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 05:42 PM

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this phone also got shatter proof film shit or not??!! mad.gif mad.gif
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post Sep 12 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 12 2013, 05:55 PM)
No all people like screen protector. Me hate it. That shatter "shit" force me using it.

Anyway soon I believe I can release from nightmare. I hate screen protector.
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Yes I never like to use screen protector on my phone.. It just looks ugly when it got scratches
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post Sep 13 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(tzershi @ Sep 13 2013, 11:40 AM)
Same brand, XZU -> RM2,299 3G version only. LTE version maybe will higher.
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in garage sell, got selling LTE Model, AP set, same price as 3G model at RM2088.. so i think 3rd party pricing for LTE will be around RM2199-2299 only for ori set when launched here
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post Sep 14 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 14 2013, 03:39 PM)

*one more note, wondering if Malaysia has Samsung hired bashing boy like oversea, heheheheh.  brows.gif

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Oh yeah of course there is.. brows.gif Malaysia is one of Samsung big market, of course they will try hard to protect this territory..

As well as Apple fan boys.. Might be hired by some local apple distributors to fight for Apple products.. Some seller making huge profit every year following release of new Apple product.. It's a good business to protect. Lol
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post Sep 17 2013, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Sep 17 2013, 12:39 AM)
Here's the more accurate date:
Xperia Arc - January, first released in March
Xperia Arc S - August, first released in September
Xperia S - 9 January, first released in March
Xperia T - 29 August, first released in October
Xperia Z - 8 January, first released in March
Xperia Z1 - 4 September, going to be first released in September
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The trend is 2 device a year for a series.. Hint is better get the one released later in the year
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Sep 20 2013, 06:26 PM)
According to one girl name Erica Griffin (you can google her up. her reviews and explanations on details are really based on her on research and measrements and not from internet available information)

Right, according to her, AMOLED actually has more accurate colour gamut compared to IPS screen

What happened in previous Galaxy phones was that Samsung had deliberately oversaturated the colours. So when people say Galaxy S3 is oversaturated, they're right, but it's not AMOLED's fault, it's the software's fault.

But since Galaxy S4, Samsung had leave the colour meters "more natural" on the colour gamut, according to the results of the colour meter measurements done by her.

Now, on the LCD, the colour gamut is actually narrower than the colour gamut on AMOLED (the wider the colour gamut, the more accurate the colour is according to true colours that human eyes can see). If LCD on natural colour meter mode were to put side by side to AMOLED, it will look as if LCD is undersaturated.

So what most manufacturers do was, they try to emulate AMOLED screen by oversaturating the colours! This is done by deliberately adjusting the colour meters to a more saturated ones (LG G2 according to her colour meter measurements), or by deliberately adjusting the gamma output put make it more saturated (HTC One and Z Ultra). Oversaturating means no more accurate colours, because at some more you will see too dark, and some part you will see too bright compared to the original colour.

So actually what we consumers see as "Good Colour Quality" is actually over saturation of colours, except Galaxy S4 and Note 3 and perhaps newer Galaxy series. Manufacturers found out we actually like oversaturated colours. We can say we like more natural colours but the moment we like what Triluminus or HTC One display, that's actually over saturated colours.

But the downside of AMOLED is that it's not suitable for heavy users, as the screen will degrade overtime due to how the sub pixel works and it's not preventable, according to her.
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In contrary, the same reviewer said that Sony XZU Trilimunous display capable of producing slightly wider range of color compared to other display types, on her review on XZU.. If I recall correctly from her video that I watched.

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