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1setsuna1
post Aug 30 2013, 07:58 PM

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Recently, i just met my one friend who is a "part-time" insurance agent. He was selling me some package like "second epf" which provide higher return than the normal epf.

He was so confidence about his company's product, saying it's reliable, good return (8% pa) and bla bla bla.

When asked about how the company provide such a high return and why is it so reliable, how can i trust my money with your company and etc, he cant provide me with convincing answer. All he can say is that the company is backed by powerful bank, many years experience in investing and some BS that don't sound convincing at all (maybe convincing for those who don't know anything about money).

At least i would expect the agent to tell about how they secure investor's money (supported by some solid evidence), how exactly the company is going to invest the money, what are the risk (how the interest rate can fluctuate) and etc.

How can an agent sell the product without knowing everything about it? The customer can potentially put their lifelong savings into the so call second epf. If anything went wrong, how are you going to be responsible for that? Missing in action? For me this is very irresponsible and irritating.

I am not sure if the fault lies with the education of the insurance company, or the mindset of insurance agent itself. One thing for sure, good insurance agents are damn hard to find nowadays, especially from the younger generations. Hope that the youngsters who planning to become an insurance agent can think twice before they screw other people's life. If u wanna become an agent, be a responsible, reliable and knowledgeable one. Your clients are putting their livelong protection in your hand, potentially for the rest of their life. Please avoid the salesman mentality, don't always try to sell the product only; you are selling a lifelong service. Yes, selling insurance can earn you a lot, but you are paid for the good service which u ought to provide for the rest of the insurance period.

Cheers! icon_rolleyes.gif
1setsuna1
post Aug 30 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(garagesell @ Aug 30 2013, 09:16 PM)
u better love the agent start today. Who knows their help ur family one day.. think good..

Anyone want to get 5.5% pa. Pls pm me. I got nice plan for u guys. We do have millionaire plan for new born baby..  smile.gif
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Is it legal to promote your insurance product here? sweat.gif


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post Aug 30 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 30 2013, 10:23 PM)
Please do not spam advert.

This is another reason, why this topic exist.  laugh.gif

New born baby do not need a million worth of insurance, they need care and guidance from family.

Millionaire plan for new born?
I shake my head.  shakehead.gif 

So desperate until target on new born as customer.  doh.gif
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U dun give ur baby 1 million, u teach him/her how to earn 1 million wub.gif

But i think the insurance is trying to fund the child's education or something, which my parent bought for me when i was young. But now the child can loan ptptn lah, and i will tel them try to fund themselves also. If lagi best, try to get scholarship thumbup.gif
1setsuna1
post Aug 30 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Aug 30 2013, 10:37 PM)
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If your parent had succeeded to use insurance as child education, then why is it the child must take loan from PTPTN?
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My parent dun use the money for my education, they use it on themselves tongue.gif

The reason is i got scholarship and i go work part time myself during uni time blush.gif

The main idea is the children nowadays must try to live on themselves instead of having their parent spoon feed them all the time. If not the number of spoil kid will be too damn high.
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post Aug 30 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 30 2013, 10:38 PM)
Even want to save up education plan, agent still need to listen and analyse the customer financial situation.


Nowadays, if one is good, one has various channel to finish tertiary education, if one is not good in study, it is better leave school early (I mean at least finish secondary to gain basic education background), and learn some skill, technical issue, which is better off having "buy" a cert while poses no skill in job market.

We have too many graduate, but shortage of skill out there.
A degree won't guarantee having a job, but having skill almost can guarantee a job.


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We should let the child choose their path instead of tailor made one for them

This post has been edited by 1setsuna1: Aug 30 2013, 10:49 PM
1setsuna1
post Aug 30 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Aug 30 2013, 10:52 PM)
Perhaps if the plan is as good as you claim, able to give 5.5% (per annum), why dont you share the plan for the people here to calculate? brows.gif
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wrong quote izit bro? shocking.gif
1setsuna1
post Aug 30 2013, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Aug 30 2013, 11:33 PM)
what happen if they hari hari hari invite u to yumcha or have lunch?... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

walao...i try to be nice and not try to burn bridges la, then in the end i needa sacrifice my personal time to listen to some stories which adds no value to my life.
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When u accept call or message from a friend who never contact u in years and he/she is asking you out for meal/yumcha, never fall for that brows.gif
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post Aug 30 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Aug 30 2013, 11:42 PM)
yes!!!!!!!!! cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

thats an immediate red flag dy!!!! but, what to do, cant burn bridges bahhh...

anyway, juz to share with all, this is the line shared during the FIRST meeting.

K: U know, insurance line is sooo intersting. because u see, if i'm not in this line NOW, then we wont be catching up at all. SEE, this is a great chance for us to catch up!!!!

Me: OMFG. Shoot me pls doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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No nid to burn bridges, just ask them frankly are u trying to sell me insurance. If the answer is yes, turn them down immediately, dun waste both of your time. No hard feeling thou.

Normally i will just tell them i don't nid it. In case i feel that i need, i will find them. Normally they will stop bothering me icon_rolleyes.gif

Let me rephrase ur fren's sentence lah: U know, insurance line is so profiting. it turn our friendship into bags of money! rclxm9.gif
1setsuna1
post Aug 31 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(garagesell @ Aug 31 2013, 01:59 AM)
The maths?? I just want to see what forumer will act if base on my example.. so.. I got the farking good answer!! And I am making huge profit!!
I will share..
I really feel sad that we still have those narrow minded person.. I dont blame them.. at first u already not happy people got commission. . Why u jealous? U dont know marketing I think.come on la.. each company have own strategy. .if all people go directly to company without commission. . All ppl die lo.. no need cari makan already. Sure u dont know economic as well. I think sure u r quite alone in your life. Haha.we have two types ppl. One type is your type and another type is the reverse side. So.. majority type is your type. I dont blame u. U born to be like that. So.. im happy that me and rest are not the same type with u.
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It's not about the commission, marketing strategy or the insurance company. It's about whether the insurance u selling is actually worth it or not and if it is suitable for ur client or not.

And don't you think u are on the socially awkward side here? Just look at how much hatred is directed towards insurance agents just because people have met too many irresponsible on in the past. How many people wish to run away from their insurance agent/direct sell friends? I understand it's the way of living, but at least do it responsibly and not to blindly chase after target only.

I got one friend who was selling insurance as well, but instead of targeting her friends (since she know most of them don't need it), she was so hardworking making cold calls to potential customers everyday. As the result, she only deal with people who feel they needed the service and not forcing people to listen to BS they dun even care.

Think about it and be responsible. rolleyes.gif
1setsuna1
post Sep 2 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Aug 31 2013, 12:34 AM)
Really thru the thread, got 8% and 5.5% returns and million HAIR insurance policy if all this true,

besok all banks, asset management companies and fund houses ASB, ASN, Tabung Haji and EPF KWSP can tutup kedai and everyone just buy these 8% ,5.5%, million HAIR insurance policies, problem solved.

Apa susah susah see market?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 2 2013, 02:00 PM)

It is ok for aggressiveness of agent, but please provide correct info to the clients.
It may be a very misleading statement to start with when seeing agent in the mall tell people that they (some, not all) have plan that is better than FD, that can give 6%, 8% one.

But saving plan is not suit to everyone, and it is not risk free as claimed, as one cannot payout the annual premium, one risking of premature cancellation of the plan, aka surrender the policy which may result in money burned, aka get back less than what had been paid for the premium (especially at early stage).
So see, the risk free term has been another misleading statement.
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Quote from lunch bro previously, if the saving plan can guarantee 6-8% interest pa den everyone no nid study investment so much already. Please ensure the information u tel ur clients are accurate and non-misleading, dun make use of other people ignorant to maximize ur profit.

 

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