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jchue73
post Jan 13 2016, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(koguma @ Dec 30 2015, 11:10 PM)
One year ago I found a local dealer for HGST in Kuching and was able to order 2x 4TB drives for my NAS.  I just dropped by their shop last week and was told they no longer deal with Desktop drives from HGST (only laptop).  They get their stock from KL though.  I think there might still be HGST dealers in KL, but it's damn hard to find.  I called the HGST office in Kuching and was told they send their drives to China to sell.  I'm going to be pounding their phone with calls until I get an answer I like.  Maybe I can even sign up as a dealer...  drool.gif
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If you can get somebody in KL and check out Viewnet, they seem to list the 7200rpm HGST NAS drives for sale.

3TB - RM 579
4TB - RM 779
6TB - RM 1199

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Woah, Synology hardcore fans.
Nice information from you. smile.gif
Base on your experience, 5 years is safe range yet.
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Consider myself a late comer but I went straight to Synology DS2413+ 3 years ago. Never regretted it.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:16 PM

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I am for looking for NAS box to be installed at home.
The NAS must support :

- support RAID 1
- hard disk space 1 - 2 TB
- clients support on IOS and Anroid
- support torrent download
- support VPN function


There are NAS brands amd models in the market. How to select?
Any experience sharing and recommendation is welcome. Thanks.

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post Jan 16 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ahbeng88 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:16 PM)
I am for looking for NAS box to be installed at home.  
The NAS must support :

- support RAID 1
- hard disk space 1 - 2 TB
- clients support on IOS and Anroid
- support torrent download
- support VPN function
There  are NAS brands amd models  in the market.   How to select? 
Any experience sharing and recommendation is welcome.  Thanks.
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Budget? I assume you have a wired LAN home network? Just look into Synology or Qnap models and you have all the required features covered.

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post Jan 19 2016, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 16 2016, 12:02 PM)
Budget? I assume you have a wired LAN home network? Just look into Synology or Qnap models and you have all the required features covered.
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post Jan 19 2016, 12:13 AM

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Budget is between RM 1200 to RM 1600. My router does support both Fast and Gigabit Ethernet. What model to select? Any tips?

Also, I plan to put the NAS at my living hall, where is room temperature (without aircon) most of the time. Do I need any additional cooling fan for the NAS box?
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(ahbeng88 @ Jan 19 2016, 12:13 AM)
Budget is between RM 1200 to RM 1600.  My router does support both Fast and Gigabit Ethernet.    What model to select?  Any tips?

Also,  I plan to put the NAS at my living hall,  where is room temperature (without aircon) most of the time.  Do I need any additional cooling fan for the NAS box?
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Synology DS-216PLAY. No additional fan required.
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post Jan 19 2016, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 13 2016, 05:31 PM)
If you can get somebody in KL and check out Viewnet, they seem to list the 7200rpm HGST NAS drives for sale.

3TB - RM 579
4TB - RM 779
6TB - RM 1199
That is expensive. HGST is premium brand?

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2016, 08:31 AM)
That is expensive. HGST is premium brand?
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It is not premium but known to be more reliable than the common WD and Seagate.

Perhaps terrabyte for terrabyte, the HGST NAS variant is slightly more expensive than the other brands of similar sizes because the ones I quoted are 7200 rpm models.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 19 2016, 01:01 PM)
It is not premium but known to be more reliable than the common WD and Seagate.

Perhaps terrabyte for terrabyte, the HGST NAS variant is slightly more expensive than the other brands of similar sizes because the ones I quoted are 7200 rpm models.
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In my 9yrs of using NAS, hardly encounter HDD spoil.

I have 2tb Samsung and WD red running till now.
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post Jan 19 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2016, 01:54 PM)
In my 9yrs of using NAS, hardly encounter HDD spoil.

I have 2tb Samsung and WD red running till now.
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More reliable based on statistics... Statistics exist does not mean you have to kena, right? Consider yourself lucky lor. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 19 2016, 05:21 PM)
More reliable based on statistics... Statistics exist does not mean you have to kena, right? Consider yourself lucky lor.  rclxms.gif
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Understand the statistic.

But I don't believe in luck to get something.

Yesterday my WD external wireless drive spoil. Brought 6mth ago. sad.gif
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post Feb 3 2016, 03:02 PM

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i dont trust Seagate anymore , not going back , bought seagate barracuda LP 2tb x4 , WD green x1 , Samsung x1 , within 2 year die 2 , 3rd year all die , WD , and Samsung die too , now all 2tb die , switch to WD red x4 , WD purple x2 .

this is really sad all 2tb cannot survive long time
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this time i am cleaver , wont go max capacity , hope 4tb wont fail so fast rclxms.gif
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post Feb 3 2016, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(gill1314 @ Feb 3 2016, 03:02 PM)
i dont trust Seagate anymore , not going back , bought seagate barracuda LP 2tb x4 , WD green x1 , Samsung x1 , within 2 year die 2 , 3rd year all die , WD , and Samsung die too , now all 2tb die , switch to WD red x4 , WD purple x2 .

this is really sad all 2tb cannot survive long time

this time i am cleaver , wont go max capacity , hope 4tb wont fail so fast
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That's an awful lot of cd drives bro. Running a pirated ccd/dvd/bd business?
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post Feb 3 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(gill1314 @ Feb 3 2016, 03:02 PM)
i dont trust Seagate anymore , not going back , bought seagate barracuda LP 2tb x4 , WD green x1 , Samsung x1 , within 2 year die 2 , 3rd year all die , WD , and Samsung die too , now all 2tb die , switch to WD red x4 , WD purple x2 .

this is really sad all 2tb cannot survive long time


this time i am cleaver , wont go max capacity , hope 4tb wont fail so fast  rclxms.gif
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if that is how you place your HDD, without proper casing and all, of course will die lah. Drives running 24/7 should be properly mounted and ventilated.

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post Feb 3 2016, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Feb 3 2016, 07:41 PM)
if that is how you place your HDD, without proper casing and all, of course will die lah. Drives running 24/7 should be properly mounted and ventilated.
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i have harddisk bay , just bought few harddisk setup and testing only , i am using LSI SAS 9211-8i with 8bay hotswap .
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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Feb 3 2016, 07:32 PM)
That's an awful lot of cd drives bro. Running a pirated ccd/dvd/bd business?
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only have 2dvd-rom hmm.gif where got so much

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Anyone ix z current Asustor users? Care to share your experiences here?


Tbank you.

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post Feb 9 2016, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(gill1314 @ Feb 3 2016, 03:02 PM)
i dont trust Seagate anymore , not going back , bought seagate barracuda LP 2tb x4 , WD green x1 , Samsung x1 , within 2 year die 2 , 3rd year all die , WD , and Samsung die too , now all 2tb die , switch to WD red x4 , WD purple x2 .

this is really sad all 2tb cannot survive long time
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this time i am cleaver , wont go max capacity , hope 4tb wont fail so fast  rclxms.gif
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Don't think is the hdd problem. More like your enclosure, nas or PC handling the hdd.

I don't have such issue. Even the Samsung 2gbx5pcs running for 7yrs now.
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post Feb 10 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 9 2016, 03:32 PM)
Don't think is the hdd problem. More like your enclosure, nas or PC handling the hdd.

I don't have such issue. Even the Samsung 2gbx5pcs running for 7yrs now.
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actually the whole rack is my cpu case because limited space in my cpu case , i extend into my rack , nobody walk there move/shake the whole rack , the rack is very heavy,firm , usually i put together into a enclosure . i extend the sata using SFF 8088 cable. so there is no way to fail unless the harddisk not good enough , i choose WD Red because WD disable the drive head parking unlike normal Low power harddisk .

bought before GST only rm470 each at viewnet , rm50 cheap gigabit network 6port for share with other network pc rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Feb 14 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(gill1314 @ Feb 10 2016, 12:18 AM)
actually the whole rack is my cpu case because limited space in my cpu case , i extend into my rack , nobody walk there move/shake the whole rack , the rack is very heavy,firm , usually i put together into a enclosure . i extend the sata using SFF 8088 cable. so there is no way to fail unless the harddisk not good enough , i choose WD Red because WD disable the drive head parking unlike normal Low power harddisk .
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What you say does not reflect the pics you showed though. A bit of a paradox...

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