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leowjc
post Jun 19 2020, 02:38 AM

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Hi, I got a Synology DS916+ recently, tried to set it up but stuck at Set Up Router with error message "2 or more routers were found in your network".

I'm using TPLink Archer C1200.

Can someone help me? Thanks.
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post Jun 19 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(leowjc @ Jun 19 2020, 02:38 AM)
Hi, I got a Synology DS916+ recently, tried to set it up but stuck at Set Up Router with error message "2 or more routers were found in your network".

I'm using TPLink Archer C1200.

Can someone help me? Thanks.
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Do you have 2 routers on your internet setup? Such as modem+router then another router?
Try follow these guide from Synology
https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledg...tion_routerconf

Also see these solution
https://community.synology.com/enu/forum/17/post/83783

I'm not using Synology so I don't really know the issue.

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Jun 19 2020, 05:16 PM
leowjc
post Jun 19 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jun 19 2020, 05:12 PM)
Do you have 2 routers on your internet setup? Such as modem+router then another router?
Try follow these guide from Synology
https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledg...tion_routerconf

Also see these solution
https://community.synology.com/enu/forum/17/post/83783

I'm not using Synology so I don't really know the issue.
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No, i'm only using modem+router.

yeah, I read those 2 sites, no luck bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

This post has been edited by leowjc: Jun 19 2020, 06:30 PM
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post Jul 3 2020, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 28 2020, 11:07 AM)
How is the exos perform?

I want to use exos since it is cheaper.

But worry about mix run/use with ironwolf.

I read in Synology recommend that running exos need to off the hibernate.
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Isn't' Exos a SMR drive? That's why I ended up buying the Ironwolf pro 16TB
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post Jul 3 2020, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(rylim @ Jul 3 2020, 10:44 AM)
Isn't' Exos a SMR drive? That's why I ended up buying the Ironwolf pro 16TB
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I don't no.

Didn't read the spec. Look at the price attractive.

At the end, didn't buy it. Worry can't mix and match with the existing ironwolf.
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post Jul 14 2020, 11:04 AM

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Hi all sifus,
Wanna ask, if going to setup a NAS system mainly for movies storing and streaming movie with 1080p up to 4k, what type of NAS storage is recommended?

Currently owned 8 nos of external hdd with total of 15TB (almost runs out of space).

I am looking at synology DS220+(2bay) and/or DS420+(4bay) with at least starting with x1 8TB ironwolf hdd, do you guys recommend this hardware? should i go raid this with x2 8TB? budget quite concerning here... haha

thanks
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post Jul 14 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Lon3LyJay @ Jul 14 2020, 11:04 AM)
Hi all sifus,
Wanna ask, if going to setup a NAS system mainly for movies storing and streaming movie with 1080p up to 4k, what type of NAS storage is recommended?

Currently owned 8 nos of external hdd with total of 15TB (almost runs out of space).

I am looking at synology DS220+(2bay) and/or DS420+(4bay) with at least starting with x1 8TB ironwolf hdd, do you guys recommend this hardware? should i go raid this with x2 8TB? budget quite concerning here... haha

thanks
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I believe you collect movie base on your 15tb not enough space?

Advise better save up to get 8bay.

2bay is meaningless. Even 4bay. Very fast you run out of space.

If not, then just get 2bay is enough.

Look for read/write fast and able to aggregate link.
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post Jul 14 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 14 2020, 11:34 AM)
I believe you collect movie base on your 15tb not enough space?

Advise better save up to get 8bay.

2bay is meaningless. Even 4bay. Very fast you run out of space.

If not, then just get 2bay is enough.

Look for read/write fast and able to aggregate link.
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Yes. 15TB is insufficient, but it takes roughly 5 years time to reach this stage.. but since 4k movie is the trend now, I believe it will required shorter time to reach the next 15tb in no time.

8bay is too much for now?
I saw some review said that you can link a few 4bay together or even 8bay in the future if really needed.

This post has been edited by Lon3LyJay: Jul 14 2020, 12:53 PM
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:04 PM

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Is it possible to stream movies from Synology over the internet? Example I have a DS220 at home and I stream my movie library from hometown or while travelling?
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:22 PM

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Did HDD price increase recently? Just noticed 8TB NAS drive 1.1k
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post Jul 15 2020, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Lon3LyJay @ Jul 14 2020, 12:53 PM)
Yes. 15TB is insufficient, but it takes roughly 5 years time to reach this stage.. but since 4k movie is the trend now, I believe it will required shorter time to reach the next 15tb in no time.

8bay is too much for now?
I saw some review said that you can link a few 4bay together or even 8bay in the future if really needed.
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Firstly, you must have a target what are the storage size you want to have. Then how about redundancy? Losing TBs of data is not a pleasant feeling. RAID 1/10 halves your actual HDD storage size, RAID 5 lose less about 25% or 30% of actual storage but takes longer time to rebuild if one of the HDD dies plus the long time and additional stress to rebuild increase the risk for another HDD to die.

8 bays makes it easier for you to expand your storage in future but the NAS price is doubled or more than 4 bays. Personally I think if just for not important data you shouldn't spend so much money on it, 4 bays should be enough. You can go for expansion units in future if want to increase the bay, but make sure the NAS and expansion units support USB 3.1 to fully utilized the HDD read/write speed. Or you can use hot swappable function, put media that you still want but won't be watching in near future on swappable HDD. This way you can have more HDD without the need for more bay.

QUOTE(ntw @ Jul 14 2020, 10:04 PM)
Is it possible to stream movies from Synology over the internet? Example I have a DS220 at home and I stream my movie library from hometown or while travelling?
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Should be possible, depends on the software and internet speed. Some NAS also can transcode the video to make it smaller to stream so that save you some bandwidth.

QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 14 2020, 10:22 PM)
Did HDD price increase recently? Just noticed 8TB NAS drive 1.1k
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Malaysia price for NAS HDD? I remember that is the price for WD from last year. Ironwolf cheaper a bit but if Pro then also 1.1k
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post Jul 15 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lon3LyJay @ Jul 14 2020, 12:53 PM)
Yes. 15TB is insufficient, but it takes roughly 5 years time to reach this stage.. but since 4k movie is the trend now, I believe it will required shorter time to reach the next 15tb in no time.

8bay is too much for now?
I saw some review said that you can link a few 4bay together or even 8bay in the future if really needed.
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2bay max capacity is 16tb. with 1 backup. No point to take 2bay.

4bay max is 48tb with raid. 3yrs might full.

Cause you will keep more on 4k size material.

Yes, you can get a hdd encloser to link up the NAS.

I m movie collector.
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QUOTE(ntw @ Jul 14 2020, 10:04 PM)
Is it possible to stream movies from Synology over the internet? Example I have a DS220 at home and I stream my movie library from hometown or while travelling?
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Yes. You can stream around the world.

Download the synology apps in your phone or ipad. Movie, photo, music, file anything.
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post Jul 15 2020, 09:33 AM

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Planning to upgrade my DIY NAS/home server.

Pentium G5420 - 249
Asrock Z390 Pro4 - 489

My casing can store 10 HDDs
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 14 2020, 10:22 PM)
Did HDD price increase recently? Just noticed 8TB NAS drive 1.1k
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I check hdd ironwolf quite frequently.

Price did not change much like it around US479.

Last month cheaper at US464. Brought 2pcs.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 15 2020, 09:38 AM)
I check hdd ironwolf quite frequently.

Price did not change much like it around US479.

Last month cheaper at US464. Brought 2pcs.
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Is that 16TB price in USD?
Very cheap if 8TB MYR
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post Jul 15 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 15 2020, 11:59 AM)
Is that 16TB price in USD?
Very cheap if 8TB MYR
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16TB in USD
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post Jul 16 2020, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 15 2020, 08:36 AM)
Firstly, you must have a target what are the storage size you want to have. Then how about redundancy? Losing TBs of data is not a pleasant feeling. RAID 1/10 halves your actual HDD storage size, RAID 5 lose less about 25% or 30% of actual storage but takes longer time to rebuild if one of the HDD dies plus the long time and additional stress to rebuild increase the risk for another HDD to die.

8 bays makes it easier for you to expand your storage in future but the NAS price is doubled or more than 4 bays. Personally I think if just for not important data you shouldn't spend so much money on it, 4 bays should be enough. You can go for expansion units in future if want to increase the bay, but make sure the NAS and expansion units support USB 3.1 to fully utilized the HDD read/write speed. Or you can use hot swappable function, put media that you still want but won't be watching in near future on swappable HDD. This way you can have more HDD without the need for more bay.

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Yes. I noted on the necessary of having raid 1 for it. which is why I may go for 12tb per hdd.
I also thinks that 2 bay might be in a pain for next 1-2 years even... due to the 4k movies file size, my movie collections actually up to 10 years. just that the early first 5 years are mostly 720p format. after 1080p and above getting into the play, the volume required is rather huge and increase significantly every years.

As a result of that, I may go for Synology 920+ now, for future expansion unit ready. their official website didn't state clearly whether they are hot swappable or not, but other forums says most of them are hot swappable, i assume new NAS from synology should have that feature on it.

QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 15 2020, 09:25 AM)
2bay max capacity is 16tb. with 1 backup. No point to take 2bay.

4bay max is 48tb with raid. 3yrs might full.

Cause you will keep more on 4k size material.

Yes, you can get a hdd encloser to link up the NAS.

I m movie collector.
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Sifu! which unit you used for NAS? I'm also planning to include surveillance system link to this NAS.
it is such a pain that I need pay so much for startup... its like going to have at least rm5k for just starting, 920+ RM2200+/- and 2 units of 12TB ironwolf NAS HDD RM3400+/-

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QUOTE(Lon3LyJay @ Jul 16 2020, 11:03 AM)
Sifu! which unit you used for NAS? I'm also planning to include surveillance system link to this NAS.
it is such a pain that I need pay so much for startup... its like going to have at least rm5k for just starting, 920+ RM2200+/- and 2 units of 12TB ironwolf NAS HDD RM3400+/-
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It all in this threat. Read back.

The world now have Netflix and hulu. Why you need a NAS ?

NAS is an expensive gadget. It cost alot to maintain for this hobby.
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post Nov 1 2020, 08:24 PM

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Just got this Synology DS920+
Gonna replace my old NAS

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Very minimal contents
Got 2 M.2 NVME slots for caching

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How light the quick start guide have become compared to almost a decade ago NAS start guide.
Thank you internet now everything can search online no need go through text book. laugh.gif

Now need to backup my data to clear some HDD and get 2 NVME SSD.

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