i think people can accept sw concept but it just so bad that from the outside LDP the whole sw is still pretty much dead until you go inside
people still come in droves to sw from the traffic jam of people walking along the shops but people prefer shopping malls because availability of toilets is one and all inside with air cond. in sw, where is the toilet? there is none except walking into one of the shops or until the end at the mall area.

one city and main place all do one thing. they advertise full page in the newspaper. sw? i have not seen any except the last one probably sponsored by red tomato over the valentine event.
so is sw overly confident by virtue that they are SP SETIA?

now everywhere is building integrated concept but glad to say that in sw i can walk to lrt station to go to klcc in few years time

thanks a123 for the update
on "BF may to want to settle the issues with JMB asap", i don't think JMB should accept anything from them. i understand the lawsuit is on the illegal structure so the structure should be demolished if the court ruling is in favour of JMB. the illegal structure is taking up a considerable area blocking freedom of access by anyone want to cross over to the other side of the shops. both left and right common areas were taken by bf.
if JMB accepts for a solution then what is the purpose of the lawsuit? if out of court settlement is preferred than we have wasted time and money on the lawsuit.

the noise was extremely bad on last sat night
even louder until close to 2am and after
DJ shouted repeatedly
it is really a nightmare living in SW
how many residents especially those facing LDP is suffering in silence?
noise pollution is killing sw
i wonder whether the whole sw is sustainable
shop after shop is showing sign of closing
if there is replacement no issue
but if there is none?

i went to check out main place
impressive
jaya grocer is there and so as many branded quality tenants
advertisement is prominent
as for red tick, something is slowing down their opening?
i can see from the elevator side the inside is still in a mess
racking not in proper positioning for quite some time
no more banner outside (been removed) means something is not happening?

a123 and T816B
please share with us participation at sub committee level (procedures/criteria/etc) and FB official owners or residents groups address

it is really a nightmare living in sw
noise pollution is serious and no sight of ending despite multiple complaints.
you can hear multiple noises every night with each entertainment outlet trying to outdo each other by playing even louder music

even a sunday afternoon is not spared
today around 5pm onwards one of the entertainment outlet caused vibration to my unit
i tried to switch on tv but no way to mask the vibration
it is stressful
irritating
my health is affected badly
potential buyers, tenants please don't come to sw
you will regret unless you ask for trial stay 1 week
like then stay
dun like refund money and find a better place
it is rubbish place
how can those outlets operate with no respect for the community?
there is no control over sound limit

i picked this up

Petition against turning Private Residential Units into Hostels at SetiaWalk see less
Mr Chang Kim Loong
Councillor, JKP Zone 16
Majlis Perbandaran Subang Jaya
Persiaran Perpaduan



Dear Sir,

Re: Petition against turning Private Residential Units into Hostels at SetiaWalk

The above refers. I, the undersigned owner and/or resident of SetiaWalk Serviced Apartment, am first and foremost against turning our private residential units at SetiaWalk into hostels.

Secondly, the Deed of Mutual Covenant/House Rules (Clause 1.2 of Schedule 3 – Community rules) signed between the developer, SP Setia, and the owners warrants that permitted use of the residential units shall be exclusively for Private Residential Dwelling only.

Thirdly, the use of residential units at SetiaWalk as hostel is in contravention with MPSJ guidelines, as our residential apartments are not designed for high density occupancy usage such as for hostel. At the moment, at least 32 residential units have been turned to student hostels with each unit having 5 to 9 adult occupants. We heard that these 32 units are just a beginning.

The owners and residents of SetiaWalk apartments have already been affected by the presence of those 32 hostel units: bomba safety issue due to oversaturation of adults per resident unit/floor, overcrowding in human traffic in common areas such as in lift/swimming pool/gymnasium/reading room, potential security issues relating to frequent change of student occupants in conjunction with college term changes, student lifestyle of staying active during night/wee hours, noise pollution and etc.

Therefore we have the responsibility of protecting and promoting the best interests of the owners and/or residents of our Serviced Apartments. We urge that the responsible authorities such as MPSJ can take immediate action to remove the 32 hostel units and to return SetiaWalk Serviced Apartments to its normalcy.


Yours truly,
Owner/resident of SetiaWalk Serviced Apartment

c.c. to: (1) Ahli Parliament: Y.B. Mr Gobind Singh Deo

(2) Ahli Dewan Undangan Negeri: Y.B. Mr Ng Sze Han

could jmb help to do this petition this time to get rid of noise?
send notice to all residential units to get signature
send to sp setia 1st
if sp setia has no interest to solve their own development then to MPSJ
then MP
then PM?
then to press
to tv3 999

it is sad to see how sw has become
noise
no control in tenants
one shop after one is closed
after so long
many units still empty

whether the petition on hostel is successful or not i still see many PH
just a few can invite their friends over to party so what is the difference?
when all can petition for hostel why nobody ever petition for noise?
noise is better than PH?
living with PH is not as bad as living with noise
at least with PH, residents can sleep well
with noise, residents cannot sleep

To clear up the common misconception that buyer buys unit facing the LDP is expected to accept the current level of noise therefore nothing much can be done.

Buyers who purchased units facing the commercial and LDP knew there would be some noises from the LDP and the future LRT but nobody had expected pubs would create a public nuisance. Noise from the LDP is hardly affecting me. There is no noise from the commercial. People do not create noise from restaurants, from walking, from the retail boutique. It is insensitive, disrespectful pubs! It causes disruption to the community.

There are 3 types of noise
1. loud noise from singing like from live band which can be heard every single night.
2. noise is not as loud but causes vibration to building. This is like a proton wira with modified exhaust and loud speakers. Extremely disturbing.
3. DJ shouting with techno/club music and the crowds shouting including drunkards shout after closing like after 2-3am depending on days

Noise 1 and 2 are 365 days, no stopping even on rainy days
Noise 3 usually on Fri and Sat nights and eve of certain public holidays

Basically the walkway of residential block is polluted by these noises. You can try to walk from one end to the other end when the singing starts. I can understand those sleeping in master bedroom facing the forest is not affected but there are 2nd and 3rd rooms with windows facing the walkway so I doubt these rooms are insulated from the noise.
We have quite many foreigners as residents and I’m not sure whether they lodge any complaint to FM. Obviously not many are here and active.

We can invest in sound proofing solution or even demolishing all windows and lay brick by brick with cement but the vibration will still be there. We know the root cause so best to get rid of the root cause then to spend time and money on sound proofing solution. Sound proofing solution usually helps to reduce noise pollution from roads, etc but not on excessive noise caused by deliberate act which worst case can vary with level of intensity.

Those affected must continue to complain. Without complaint, it does sound like the dust has settled and problem has been resolved; or that residents have given up and come to terms to live in pain. SW is a great place to live. I love this place BUT not with blatant music blasting away. These operators/tenants have no respect for the community. It is clear from a123 that table discussion is not leading to any solution. You know then what sort of people and class we are dealing with.

We need a petition similar to the previous petition on hostel issue. I believe pubs can co-exist with the residents but they MUST respect the community. Brussels Beer Café does not have to resort to loud music but business is brisk (Jaya One). Usually it is those pubs without any USP that have to resort to pariah way ie loud music. I am still hoping the lawsuit will help the community soon.

I know some of you sitting not affected by the noise but please help as a conducive environment will help SW to become a much sought after location. The worst case is when SW is known as the noisiest place and to be avoided by all means, all tenants and investors.

yee11, best is to go up and try to speak to the tenants and a chance to know them
this way i think better than complaining to FM
what FM can do? call the tenant by the free phone in the unit or issue warning letter?
your noise can happen everywhere
it just depend on luck.
but pub noise does not happen at every condominium so we must be united to solve this
R1 probably is less impacted from pubs because it is at corner. i don't know whether vovo noise or awave is loud enough to cause disruption to R1

This is the state residents have been facing
We can only complain and complain
FM cannot do much (are we going to get a new one soon? Is it ready to be announced here the new facilities management?)
SP Setia built it, sold it (no more stake right?), and not playing much role now to develop SW further. I can only see some FB postings like “today is gonna rain so better not stuck in congested roads” something like that and with a picture taken from the customer department side
Owners and residents have to continue to put their voice stronger forward
It is tough

We should all file a petition to the developer in controlling tenants in the commercial areas.
I remember the promising statement during launch
“Setia Walk boasts of 3 main zones namely, active zone, sanctuary zone and escape zone. The active zone is a play area with child development centres, products and toys, whilst the sanctuary zone is for dining, spa and beauty centres. The escape zone is the casual area with alfresco dining, bistros and cafes.”
If they exercise control ie grouping of all pubs within one zone (this being shown during launch) I would have chosen unit far far away from this zone. And this zone should sell at lower pricing because of expected noise pollution.
A123, you think this is something we can raise to the developer as the thing that they need to deliver? Control of tenants in the commercial areas?
Transformation of SW
Re-organisation of SW

Where is the control now? with the look of it there does not seem to be any control
It seems like any tenant regardless of business can just take any empty commercial lot and start business
Many foreign faces in the residential block. Some units have so many tenants and with changing faces on and off. Shoes have been reportedly stolen.
Some of the contractors put their workers into one unit so as now pub workers.
When people are desperate to let out their unit, we get all sorts of quality residents
There are still few empty lots around 7 eleven side
Who will come then?

a123, actually as I have previously expressed, I do have concern on the decision from jmb, I do not have the chance to read the content of the lawsuit and I am not sure whether you can post it here. The lawsuit was not made known to owners until the 2nd AGM where it was raised by bf representative.


Simple understanding is that bf has to remove the illegal structure (quite a big area left and right) and the refusal to comply has led to this lawsuit. If the final ruling is on JMB side, I would expect the demolition of the illegal structure. This means a scaled down operation for bf. Speakers under the structure would be removed and residents can expect lesser noise pollution. However, from your update, it does seem like JMB can accept further talk (ie to allow bf to continue to maintain the structure therefore continue to occupy the common area by I don’t know; payment to JMB or additional monthly rental). If this is the case I think it defeats the purpose of lawsuit. we have wasted our effort and cost on the lawsuit and I don’t know how much it will cost to our service charge we pay monthly. JMB has to be firm on this. Losing party will have to comply with the court decision. No further out of court discussion and settlement should be expected. I don’t know whether my understanding is correct here; if not please correct here.
Like in 2nd AGM “rule is rule” remarks.

I remember during launching of sales there were so many maids and workers in the queue for their speculators
And quite a few bankers joined together to buy few units
Clearly, speculators will not have any intention to attend such AGM apart from talking about how much psft can flip, how much rental can get, etc. We don’t know how many are foreign investors who obviously cannot attend the AGM.

I don’t know whether this is possible for the current JMB to spell out clearly in the invitation to owners for the next AGM the need for owners to attend so that they can see their presence is indeed needed. ie spell out the impact of developer holding the majority votes versus owners as some may not be able to see and understand the impact.



It seems a well known loophole by liquidating the company and where is the law on going after the real owner, the shareholder instead of the then empty shell company?
Does bf have a MPSJ licence that allows them to operate until 3am? Even with reduced sound, I can still hear the party people shouting after 3am last night. I have checked with DOE on noise limit and they have referred me to MPSJ.

Could JMB call for a high level meeting with MPSJ to consider implementing noise limit and enforce it?
Could JMB call for a meeting with all pub operators including the owners of the pub premises to find a consensus? Quite some ago a report in the media shown residents protesting noise from karaoke emanating from a food court. At least it was reported that the karaoke operator would stop music at 11pm. Could pubs in SW cut their music at 11pm?
They can play after 11pm on the condition that they build sound proofing walls like Zouk or Soju Sunway. These sort of places can play really loud music until 3am with hardly any effect to the surroundings outside their premises. This should be enforced as SW house rules. JMB must have better control since we are left with this shit from the developer.

Given an opportunity I will continue to vote for a123 and I hope a123 will continue to fight for transparency. Before a123 was voted in there was hardly any news. With a123, we can at least see a clear difference. I do believe a123 has done his best. If there is any attempt by some of the JMB members to hide certain detail it is clear the “carried over” JMB members are not the right ones and they should not be voted again in the next AGM. We need more fresh (fair and impartial) people to be in the JMB.

yes the ugly facade fronting R2 is still unresolved! bricks of bf. workers now lepak in front of R2 staircase sitting hanging around
and those drinkers in bf always walk to R2 to answer phone calls
when drunk they will puke at the R2 landscape!

it can also be official or the final minutes
if there is minutes, share with owners
should be same minutes
there is no need to filter the minutes and release it as unofficial abstract

i am thinking it's even best if all owners can be part of JMB by voting in the online system or fb closed group. for example certain decisions or actions open for voting.
every service charge paying tenant should have a right to access to info concerning the use of their money
is service charge paid by r1-r3 residents still use for commercial and vice versa?
is there plan to separate it?

like this online system to be up in jul (assuming letters will be sent to owners in jul) how much will it cost to JMB? the tender process. the quotations from >3 vendors. etc.

the construction of flyover is taking to a stage where i hope it is safe and controlled properly. many years ago similar construction by spsetia in setia alam, the nkve connection collapsed during construction stage. right now driving out of sw to persiaran wawasan has to watch on top of your head since it is supported by half constructed pillar. why half pillar design?

and LRT STN07 is like a playground. lack of progress. do a bit of here and there
while there is no visible building they chose to build the staircase first. why? build staircase first because it is easy? guinea pig?

i wonder how the manager employed by JMB will handle those not complying? like MPSJ sapu their tables? but they will probably continue to put it out after one raid. i like the korean fried rice + cheese taste but it is blocking the walkway and people need to walk inside when it is raining.

could JMB attract more tenants to make sw fully occupied? so many empty lots waiting for what? owners like to keep it empty with no rental income or nobody wants to enter sw for business?

sad to hear this; this explains the pariah state of country we live in when people are selfish, like you said recalcitrant!
who are the thugs? surely they are associated with the pubs? or they are those collecting protection money?
i wonder how they can track the vehicles of jmb members unless it is the work of a spy or somebody internally in jmb leaking information out.

why the fired bullets onto the road serving the residential blocks case was not reported in the press? another covered case? i remember seeing some forensic vehicles parked along the residential blocks.
the developer should come in and play a greater role. not just sit and see its demise. pub after pub closed but another pub springs into action by changing the name. look at setia city mall winning award. sw is really testing everybody until its demise
they say puchong is one of the notorious places to live
now those targeting jmb proves it is..a very complex community

a new property next to sw on a long strip of land by unknown developer?