Went to Grand Shanghai for dinner last Sat, jam pack with people...

Cannot see the clear line of differentiation between residence and commercial, normally a good mixed development design should have clear separate lobby/entrance, different carpark entrance etc...in SW case, like all rojak already...

There is separate entrance and lobby.

I am not staying there I also know there are seperate entrance for resi. haha

must be ur maiden trip to sw. next visit hire a knowledgeable tour guide.

To clarify, what I meant was the demarcation between residence and commercial was not "clear" enough to create the impression/feel that they are indeed separated, both physically & psychologically. If not, there would not be complaints by residents that they are being "disturbed" by the commercial activities. A good mixed development design over such a "large" piece of land (unlike a single block development) should be able to minimize the above complaints.

If u look at the "congested" site plan below and u are given the chance to re-design the "clear" separation between residential & commercial, am sure that some of us can do a better job. Of course, the developer could have created the current design to maximize saleable area...



If you compare this with say KL ECO City (by same developer) site plan, they have kept

1) all the residential towers in the left sector to maintain its "peace"
2) office towers with retail hub (linked to the KTM & Midvalley) in the center sector as this would be the sector with the most commercial activities but conveniently accessible by the residential towers and the boutique offices
3) Boutique offices which they sold enbloc or by entire floor in the right sector so as to provide "exclusivity" to those exclusive business entities

http://www.klecocity.com.my/overview.asp#.UwMmZaRWGgU



This post has been edited by CMW123: Feb 18 2014, 05:44 PM

Of course there are clear signage of residence & commercial car parks. Even lobbies of residences are available. You are obviously not observant at all.

We have separate car park, visitor car park n lobby.

Trigon is nearing completion, am quite surprised how much taller it is compared to SBV and the PFCC next door. Btw, PFCC Tower 1 and 2, is it fully tenanted? The towers always look dark at night, as if unoccupied. It would totally change Puchong's skyline if the buildings were lit up, but alas... same as IOI Mall, looks dull at night due to no external lighting. IOI have the chance to make an impact, but they choose not to.

Wish there is a pedestrian bridge from SW to PFCC.

Really wonder how long more SW has to wait before retailers start moving in. I recall 1Puchong shops took more than 4 years to fill up.

Anyone knows whether does SP Setia management doing any efforts to bring in the crowd?

Welcome back Vestor. I would say SW management has been doing well within their resources. we must understand that SW are shops not retail mall. it has it's limitation and advantage.

Haha..am always lurking around, just that didnt pose due to my limited knowledge in property investment.
Just basing on my instinct as consumer to put up some of the comments. More to learn here.

Weekdays' afternoon crowd in SW really bad. I saw many outlets bungkus due to poor biz.
Some agents said more than half of the offices had done 2nd hand transactions, meaning bought over by genuine occupants.
With more offices above being occupied, only then the retailers can start to flourish.

still got transaction means still got buyer. I was at SW this noon, cinemas and some eatery getting better compare to months ago. If I compare SW outlets and some other place. SW one can tahan quite longer than others.

"Most F&B" needs only 3 hours of wong in a day and can survive already. their profit margin very high.. and night at SW quite wong. I think and I hope that can keep it going.

In fact, a few F&B at Puteri & Puchong jaya bungkus already since SW getting more wong. Especially weekend, many has turn into SW and may be to OneCity.

This post has been edited by linkor: Feb 20 2014, 06:30 PM

Coret, margin quite high
many says that SW day time not wong, if you look around, most of the shops are quiet during day time, SW enclave give a wrong impression

have pedestrian bridge also no use. look at the existing one to sw.
bloody filthy
sw management cannot compare to other developers. even CNY event was not that great. lion dance performance not the kun seng keng. probably to save some money
but for some reasons night crowds still like to jam up sw
but sad part is still many empty lots. why no tenants? too expensive to rent?
even 1 puchong now is still pretty empty inside lots
no tenants so the owners either suffer or rich one holding it for future use

how long do we have to wait for the lawsuit to conclude?
6 months from now?
based on CMW123 layout, DP is supposed to be fine dining pot but sadly it is occupied by a noise polluter. and the common area taken by them has resulted no crossing by visitors
you can only walk to the other side during day time
at night you have to walk across drinkers
since most of the JMC members are from previous JMC they should be able to explain why the lawsuit was necessary when any illegal structure can be taken down by MPSJ without any charge
why MPSJ cannot act? is it under the jurisdiction of JMC because common area is subject to JMC approval before MPSJ can enter and dismantle the so-called illegal structure? the removal of the structure would allow visitors space and may reduce the number of speakers at the open area. whether the noise will be reduced is yet to be experienced

At night really a lot youngster hangout there.... Hope to see more shoplet open soon!

Even during noon time you should visit level 4 Grand Shanghai.

By the way, those photos I taken last Saturday evening around 1145pm

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i remember there was a topic discussed here about what else needs to be delivered to owners by sp setia. what about the colour cubes outside R2 and R1 facade? could the cost to do that be translated into excess fund for R2 and R1 to enjoy?

i saw few outlets already closed including those from 1st floor. on trigon it supposed to be luxury condo but from outside now it looks like another yellow painted building. but it does look taller than PFCC but almost same height with R1-R3 when you drive towards sw from ioi mall

on occupancy rate i think not bad but faces come and go as some use it as holiday home, some tenants move out because of noise, some are mainly foreigners so they may not read this forum.

DOSH can't do much but direct back to MPSJ so it is still FM, MPSJ, FB SW Closed Group and here the forum.