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Investment MOVE TO COOL OFF PROPERTY INDUSTRY COULD BACKFIRE, None of the Asian countries had success

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twincharger07
post Aug 12 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 11 2013, 11:33 PM)
Fact 1 >>> Salaries are not rising in tandem with cost of living + appreciation of new property launches. For example, my accouting industry only gives minimum token increment every year and nowadays MNCs under shared services will CAP all annual bonus to 2 or 3 months only maximum. And promotion is super intense as almost everyone especially ladies are studying accounting/finance.

Fact 2 >>> Affordable housing are not sufficiently provided, especially the middle market (PR1MA market) that will not opt for PPR/SPNB/PKNS.

Fact 3 >>> Malaysians have to make Car Purchases as priority because the need to commute to work when public transportation system is not feasible, non-existence or poor service and poor coverage and for security reasons.

We can't be talking about one or two people out of hundreds of people.
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agree with certain points especially point 3..

lets look at neighboring country.. spore..
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/featu...ggling-singles/

Singaporeans are already feeling the heat of rising prop price to 5.5 times of annual salary..
Having a car is not as mandatory like malaysian due to good public transport.. a family just need 1 car and dont drive that often, thus ERP and petrol is not a heavy burden for ordinary folks..
Income tax is lower..
borrowing interest rate is lower than us by half..
standard of living dollar to dollar comparison, they are much lower than us..
because of their strong currency, buying imported brands are cheaper.. branded electrical appliances and branded clothing are cheaper for them base on their earning power..
However, they are already feeling the burden of escalation property price..

for us msian.. i respect..
owning a myvi, or saga seems to be normal at young age.. 1 family has few cars..
dealing with escalation of toll and petrol price..
higher income tax..
higher interest rates, but we have advantage of longer tenure.. still end with paying more debts..
cost of living really escalating.. dollar to dollar, cost of living out pace our salary..
due to our lower currency value, we are buying a lot of things more expensive base on our earning power..
and yet our price of property 5 or 6 times higher than annual salary..

when singaporean are mourning on high property price, they should see we average msian are even shittier, and we have no HDB flats.. lol

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post Aug 12 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(LCL01 @ Aug 12 2013, 09:05 AM)
do u think with ur age u can own more than 1 house in Singapore? give and take lah bro.
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I dont know what you are talking about..
I am talking about affordability, not talking about buying more than 1 house..
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post Aug 12 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Aug 12 2013, 01:45 PM)
I strongly agree with your statement of "cannot compare with HK and SG".

Both HK and SG have land scarcity issue and the property market is highly regulated. Whatever curbing measure the government impose, it will not affect the market like what Ah Tong highlighted, to some extent, I feel he is over eXXXXagerating the situation. When we refer to HK and SG property market, we are generally refering to 50% of HK and 15% 0f SG private market. Most of the property hikes were caused by the inrush of new cash rich emigrants from mainland China. Most of the low and middle income group stay in the government public houses aka HDB in SG.

It is not a fair comparison to Msia market if the data is extracted from the private market of the two high income city states. It is basically comparying high income elite group to general public.

In china, similarly data from Shanghai and Beijing (which contributed the most to the transaction data base) are somehow a regulated market in a different manner. After the ridiculous property curb by communist party in 2009, most of the new development are transacted by the ultra rich and ultra powerful (political) group of people. Ah Tong intentionaly or selectively neglected the fact that the cradle city of China private entrepreneur Wenzhou is suffering a whopping 40% drop in price in 2012/13 and yet to have sign of bottom out; yet to mention the ghost city in Bayonnao, kangbashi, Xin Zheng city, Erenhot and etc.

Ah Tong is a developer, what else can you expect coming out from his mouth? same like what you listen from property agents, conflict of interest la.
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that is the irony..

SG land is limited, and houses are 5 times higher than their annual salary..

but bolehland, land is abundance.. still houses are 5 times higher than our annual salary..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Aug 12 2013, 01:54 PM

 

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