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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Rojak Thread V49, Poor people car everyday need to fix

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Nightstalker1993
post Aug 28 2013, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2013, 09:33 PM)
SUCH COINCIDENCE YOU POPPED THE X DRILLED QUESTION

thundergod_cid 2 disc cracked within 3 months
mine, although more than a year or maybe 2, however today i noticed there's hairline cracks coming out from the x drilled holes.

personal advise? if you hate seeing cracks on your disc, stay away from x drilled.
both me and elton (well, was. he using fake jun now lolz)  are on IMP x drilled

for brake pads, EBC green stuff. or Ultimax if you don't mind brake dust and want to save a bit (actually save a lot, almost half price lol)
RS... nope. lol. less 9 month habis, worn my rotor like hell and needed to skim disc, and there goes my pretty slots (skim until almost tarak)
faded numerous times down hill from genting and one time it was so bad the pads couldn't recover and i had to stop on a flat terrain on karak highway (front wheels smoking like crazy until my FWS fogging up a bit)

never such nonsense on EBC. and i'm still the gentle driver compared to certain folks that glow their discs *cough nightstalker1993 cough*

ps: if you're going endless DOT4 brake fluid, never considered their brake pads instead? lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endless_Brake_Technology_Europe
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Lol brake discs for me just use TRW blanks. Lasts literally 10x longer than cross drilled and you won't be pushing your car to feel the difference anyway. Brake pads get EBC. MKT is more or less like stock pads and I have bad experience with RS. Just get the EBC Ultimax.
Nightstalker1993
post Aug 28 2013, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 28 2013, 12:38 AM)
I buy on THICKNESS minimal 21mm for any slotted + drilled vented disc, I don't really care how they drill it. Thickness is the key when going downhill battle.

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Those looks like cheap cross-drilled discs to me. Just look at that cross-drill design, they don't even overlap! Striping or banding will definitely occur after using it for a long period.

http://ebcbrakes.com/articles/dangerous-cr...drilled-rotors/

End of story, cross-drilled rotors are more prone to cracking than pure slotted or even stock blanks for that matter. Just google it up, people are complaining their stock standard GTR cross-drilled rotors are cracking after a hard day at the track.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 28 2013, 01:15 AM)
I was a lab technician, work in THEN Malaysia 3rd largest steel factory in 2001 ~ 2003 as British Standard/ American Standard/ Malaysia Sirim/ Japan International Standard product certification officer. Ayam the one and only person in the lab running all the sampling and testing for all the raw materials/finish product, including 25mm steel plate that use to cut as disc brake rotor. So, you may wanna consider my eversof***ing humble opinion sleep.gif Any of those so called "international" standard has a tolerance of 5%, some country(namely the 1 we're f***ing familiar with) allowed tolerance up to 10%. Hence, 25mm - 10% = 22.5mm. I set myself 21mm minimal thickness consider huge tolerance, otherwise I wouldn't be able to find a replacement rotor for the rest of my life. I think GaGa stock rotor only came with 19mm.

Hairline crack happened on the drilled area got 2 facts:
1) The drilled hole pointed at the leaf between the vents. As and when the disc rotor being heated up and expanded, the leaf takes longer to contract when it start cooling down, hence the surface of drilled area will have hairline crack because the surface cool down much faster than the leaf(inner part between the rotor vent).
2) Wrong brake pad temperature will cause every single drilled hole to emit hairline crack. Simple logic, hot expand cold shrink. When you have sohai temperature pad that rated higher than the rotor, ofcourse the rotor gets heated up until fire red, as and when it contract quickly, crack is unavoidable. Try a ceramic rotor, before the disc crack, the heat generated could probably set your absorber on fire already yawn.gif In the end, it boils down to the raw material of the disc rotor.

Would like to understand more on the above highlighted from your previous statement. Which drilled rotor does not drilled through? I'd like to further understand if such technology exist. On the other hand, you can drive lika moron in your Iswaga, you will never create serious crack your disc even if you use ceramic pads. Vehicle weight is the 1 that creates more friction from the pad to the rotor. These are my eversof***ing humble opinion. Over and out.
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EBC's discs are all dimple-drilled.

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