just sat on it a while ago.

i have to give it to Proton this time though, its a much better place to be than my previous test drive with the Preve. Everything feels tighter and better finishing.
The Android infotainment was quite responsive too, no touch lag. Steering was better, buttons on it were looking and feeling more solid. Everything was good for me, the full leather was good for me too, some commented not good quality though.

This is definitely a better car than Preve. A car that the Preve should have been the first time. For driving capability i'll need to find a chance for a test drive, although its the same engine used.

Basically i'd recommend this over Vios/City/Almera big time if it doesn't have questionable reliability.

One thing bothers me though, this smaller Preve weights 1.71 tonne. Its slower than Preve, has higher FC (due to heavier than Preve), and that 17in ain't helping this heavy guy to move.

Basically its gonna be a great highway cruiser at decent FC but a reluctant stop and go car at city coupled with more petrol station visits.

yea..better. The preve i tested last year was having flimsy buttons and some of them were loose and looked like they were gonna fall off in the near future. This Suprima S feels good everything. Even the Gear Lever was tighter and the button to change gear was tight and it feels confident. The Preve had a loose gear lever when i tested it, not only could it go up and down without pressing the change gear button, it could get loose sideways too.

All in all, i agree the dash is simple and conventional. But a good fitment of everything just makes its feels much more premium against the Preve sibling to me.

me too, same sentiment

was kinda surprised with his comment

don't think he sat in that car with a clear mind

Handling
Suprima 17" vs Preve 16"
Of course Suprima > Preve

But then FC Preve > Suprima (and Preve likes to drink alot )

Acceleration
Preve Kerb Weight 1,340kg vs Suprima Kerb Weight 1,395kg
Suprima 17" vs Preve 16"
Same engine on both
Preve > Suprima

All this is provided at the automotive blogs.

What is rise?

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 22 2013, 01:53 PM

I clearly stated the kerb weight difference between the two.

exactly.

Its a tradeoff
Looks + Handling vs Cost(Rim/Tyre) + FC

Those comparing handling of Suprima 17" vs other B-Seg Jap which uses 14"/15" is an ignorant joke.
(Not to mention there are strut bars pre-installed in the Suprima too)

Those who can afford a Vios/City but now opted for Suprima S, I hope you are well aware and financially ready to feed your "supreme" car.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 22 2013, 09:36 PM

what are you smoking? comparing 1.4TSI against CFE?

This is reallllyyyy funny from Kensomuse article...




no offense to the owners

the new Suprima S still uses the same "keyless" start stop button. Where you have to slot in your key before you press the START button.

back in those days when BMW was using the same thing it was an issue. But now?
It's a pointless push start system that isn't keyless. Basically instead of turning the key all the way to start the car, you turn it 3 quarters and add an extra step to press a button. And they call this push start system?

Obsolete tech at this day of age.

yes, to you.
Seriously, a sport hatchback will always be more balanced in weight distribution and suspension than a sedan anytime.

This kind of trolling has to stop.
Even when i was tailgating a car to get him off the fast lane i hardly overtake them, cause its dangerous and signalling them to move aside is always a better option. Unless, I encounter stubborn ones.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Sep 4 2013, 01:41 PM

Wrong.

The new Lambo Sesto Elemento is only 999kg kerb weight, even lighter than a Vios.
Does that make it more floaty than a Vios?

Shedding weight is one of the things you can do to car that makes it even better than it already is.
(Provided safety was not compromised)

don't have to try and complicate things further.

I was merely trying to refute his point of heavy = more stable

handling goes with stability c'mon.
unless you car is just gonna go straight all the way. try manoeuvring a heavy car that has crappy suspension and prove to me how stable you can be in that car.

A lot of factors goes into a good handling car, hence more stable.
and by saying heavy = more stable is just pure ignorant claim.

I rest my case.

This is not rocket science. It's been there for ages.

Go check out how it works at other cars and you'd realize how futile the defensive stance you're trying to build for Proton.

This was exactly what i felt when test driving it during the initial launch. A lot of members has since argued this issue was solved with the new batches and ECU update. Just this reason alone is enough as a turn off. I can't imagine how horrible it would be during start stop traffic jams. It would be hell of a frustrating moment.

Don't feed the troll...ignore him...he's shown me a new level of fanboyism.