QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Aug 18 2013, 09:45 AM)
With 17in wheels, I wonder how 45 series tyre feels like in the Suprima. The Preve with 55 series already feels a bit hard, although not uncomfortably so.Proton Suprima S
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Aug 18 2013, 11:12 PM) http://paultan.org/2013/08/17/proton-supri...-s-launch-0071/ You mean you something like this?From this picture, we see the rear LED guide lamp. It is like an upside down "L" shape. What is the small space below the signal indicator and reverse light? Here is a clearer picture: http://paultan.org/2013/08/17/proton-supri...-s-launch-0067/ The red colour. Is it brake light or reflector? It would have been cool if the upside down "L" becomes "C" shape. I'm guessing there will soon be a mod for this. Octavias have always had C-shaped rear lamps since 1st gen. ![]() ![]() |
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Aug 21 2013, 12:15 PM
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A D-segment Mazda6 Skyactive 2.0 is 1340kg. Wah.. also lighter than Suprima.
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Aug 23 2013, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Aug 23 2013, 12:46 PM) Actually we can't totally blame them since proton didn't properly categorized their car segment since wira (maybe older). Saga BLM/FLX is which segment? Some people compare with Vios (B-seg), some people say A-segment with boot.So we know the car by names and not via segment where that includes to import cars as the brochures or advertisement didn't advertise or state it. |
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Aug 23 2013, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 23 2013, 06:48 PM) QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 23 2013, 06:49 PM) Yeah. But someone in FnF explained before that Saga is derived from Savvy (A-Seg) platform so Saga is actually a booted Savvy hence A-segment or A+/B-. Just want to be sure. |
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Kenso, what's your take on the Suprima againts the French (308/408) and the Czech (Octavia). In terms of power/acceleration/ and handling/comfort. Since you've driven 'em all.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 27 2013, 03:22 PM) None of the cars you mentioned are hot hatches, so the only reason to exclude the Octavia is that it is a lot older than the other cars... I would have liked to see how the Octavia does against the Suprima. Keep in mind that all these cars cost much more than the Suprima. Give 120k to Proton and see what a C segment hatchback they can build then. QUOTE(kenso77 @ Aug 27 2013, 05:17 PM) If you do not consider the Focus, Golf and Pug 308 as hot hatches, where does that put the Suprima? Thanks for the lengthy review, Kenso. I think what @kadajawi meant by hot hatches are those sporty versions of respective hatchbacks ala Golf GTI & Focus ST. Thus he considers non-ST Focus & Golf TSI (and Suprima S) as just hatchbacks.... cold hatches? Btw, i thought the Octavia is a hatchback with a pseudo-sedan-look.Incidentally, if you want to know, I find the Octavia (the Mk III that I have, that is) the most uncle car among them all. It doesn't corner as well as a Focus, it doesn't accelerate like a 308 or Golf. It has the looks that's not easily accepted by today's crowd. But it does have the stability and sense of solidness I was talking about earlier. I may not outsprint a Golf from 0-100kph but I'd gun it down from 180kph onwards where the Golf will start to inch slightly faster to its top speed of 215kph while the needle on mine would stop at 208kph. It'll eat any Camry/Accord/Teana hooligans that's often flashing others off the road while travelling on the North South Expressway and still return 12-13 cents per km (based on today's RON95 petrol price) if I maintain cruising speed of 110kph. It has the characteristic of a VW in the rain where it'll travel straight even on wet roads. I've seen my fair share of Protons suddenly deciding to take a dive during heavy rain when trying to match speeds with a conti. Yes, the Lotus handling has indeed benefited Proton but I reserve comment on how it handles in the rain as I have not had the liberty of doing so. It will probably do well in a moose test. I've been actively recommending friends and family members to buy the Preve for its excellent value-for-money proposition. I am so very looking forward to seeing a RM120k C segment Proton. Either they're blardy insane or they've improved to the point where their quality and standards is widely accepted and everyone can say it's worth the price. Either outcome would please many Malaysians, no? The Focus, and to a lesser extent, the Golf, regardless of sporty version or not, have always been benchmarked againts. They're top dogs so it's not so much of a surprise if Suprima doesn't manage to match them, given Proton's low production cost. What i'm more keen to know is whether Proton can "at least beat or equal" the other supposedly 'inferior' continentals... hence why i brought up the Peugeot and Skoda. Had the VW/Proton deal went through, Proton could've potentially become the Asian Skoda/Seat... just maybe. We could be getting a Proton Octavia/Leon/(insert Msian name) instead. Skoda succeeds in Europe bcoz people see it as a cheaper VW. Proton could've sell their cars as cheaper VWs too. But that didn't happen of course. Thus, we get the Preve/Suprima, a product after proton given the middle finger to VW. But is it good enough? Better than Proton Octavia/Leon? This post has been edited by AmenoJaku: Aug 27 2013, 06:39 PM |
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 27 2013, 06:47 PM) We never knew what was the deal offered on the table. Maybe Proton refuse the offer because it a step backward by rebadging cars like previous proton-mitsubishi deal. By doing this, most of the profit goes into VW, not Proton. Proton is still rebadging cars. Inspira. Accord. But you're right i guess. We can only speculate what deal was actually like. But Skoda is doing well, no? Imagine Proton doing it in Asia like how Skoda does it in Europe. Their factories are still in Czech. The locals still get to keep their job. Even if Proton gets less share per unit being sold, Asia is a very very big market. They'll still get lotsa profit by sheer volume sold. I think a VW car with Proton badge needs less convincing to buyers than a self-made car. I would definitely buy a rm100k Proton Jetta/Octavia. If that is the fate of Proton, Proton shouldnt be born at all. I believe Proton is still new and young. It's too early to give up. ![]() |
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Sep 4 2013, 01:40 PM) Even when i was tailgating a car to get him off the fast lane i hardly overtake them, cause its dangerous and signalling them to move aside is always a better option. Unless, I encounter stubborn ones. Tailgate a car and then NOT overtake? Why would you tailgate in the first place if you're not going to overtake anyway? |
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QUOTE(sanadi @ Sep 14 2013, 11:02 PM) I think that has to do with the 200 kph runs he made If maintain 110 kph he should get around 7.5 L/100 km. If you are really careful, i.e. never, not once, go more than 10 kph above the speed limit, you can get 6.5 L/100 km QUOTE(yaz_inseven @ Sep 15 2013, 11:36 AM) Yeah, I guess the faster you go (high speeds >110), smaller turbocharged engine (1.6L) will suffer more (in terms of FC) than larger non-turbo ones e.g. 2.0NA. Not sure if this applies to all turbocharged engines or it's just campro peculiar trait. |
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