So anything above 5k RPM is negative return then?

In Preve the turbo comes in 2k-4k, and 138 hp at 5k RPM.

Looks like people will need to change their driving style from normal car, like Satria, high HP, at high RPM to cool and calm.

Can this be used for Suprima as well?
http://paultan.org/2012/04/05/proton-preve...e/preve-output/

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 7 2013, 05:11 PM

I'm not that daft to rev car for everyday usage

IIANM, that pertronas engine was before Campro engine. Why Proton did not just use that engine to begin with?

The engine is one item you cannot compromised. I think if aluminum was used, the campro can be used for few more years. I think turbo+cvt already limit for this engine. The engine itself is heavy.

Here is what I hope will happen for future engine:
1. Diesel
2. 2 stage turbo for different RPM bands
3. follow this list :

Suprima buyers may want to wait:

http://funtasticko.net/proton-preve-r3-bak...an-oktober-ini/

You must get a lot of attention when driving or stationary

I have still to listen or see any adverts. I saw one on TV. LAT drawn something about suprima in NST in relation to the TV advert

Short answer: because they can. With the amount of turtle myvi's, flying myvi's, and was it a vios that was stuck like 10 m above ground at the side of a toll highway. No idea how the toyota managed to get stuck at the stone wall barriers.


Not that easy to make lighter:
Need new platform, 1bil gone there.
New engine another 1bil gone there

There are some people who drive at 160-180km I know someone who is having breakfast 9 am at PJ, can reach Penang Island by 1pm and have lunch there.

Ordinary people want leather seat, smart HU, quiet car. Suprima has most of it. Saga market group is different than suprima market group.

Cause, Suprima heavier than Preve. Both still 1.3 tons.

Want a fast, lack of feature car, there is the Saga SV. People already complaining the Preve lack of power because of IAFM+ engine, why put a weak engine in a hatchback which weighs more. Want a hatchback...get the SNR3, cheaper. Want a faster, cheaper car, get the 2011 SNR3.

Cause they are desperate to run from Proton, even though they decide to buy the cheapest Vios...still Toyota. Still adik-beradik Toyota 86 which is a distant cousin of the LFA. Same like some people buy the X1 (which is not a refined car at all) just because to get the BMW brand lari from CRV which is better.

From what you have been saying, the Suprima is not for you due to being over your price bracket. There are other cars like Persona, Saga which are cheaper. You cannot criticize Proton for making a car at every price bracket. Everyone does this. It gives people choice at every 5k from 30K onwards. Same like, I want to buy Accord, but make it lighter, cheaper...there is a civic 2.0, city.

One segment there is room for improvement is the small, saga SV-leather edition....wait, they already have it in the Saga executive. Comfort, safety = weight increase which is 49k. sv cvt only 36k. Good things are not cheap.

Noyoudontcare,

Did you get a Yes Proton sms to your phone with id and password?

Will that drain the battery?

SA told me that if battery is dead or you unhook battery, cannot open rear boot. So you have to access stuff by folding down the seats.

preve use cable for rear boot and not electronic like suprima right?

+1

Fold seats from inside the car. A bit pointless to fold from the boot...since no power

Yes. You can access the boot from the rear seats. The lever is accessed from the rear seats. I visited one show room, they cabut the battery, so when I tried to open the boot cannot. That was when I noticed that it was electric.

electronic cost cheaper? No need to run cable.

Cannot do for fuel tank, since it is a critical component.

Thoughtful feature. If you are solo, why need to open all doors..especially at secluded car park.

The Honda I have has that feature...Used it 3 times in 4 years.

1st and 2nd time during demo after getting car. 3rd time, accidental press then remember got this feature.

No one dare to shoulder the responsibility of maintaining the thread.

5 stars:
http://funtasticko.net/proton-suprima-s-ca...-bintang-ancap/

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 13 2013, 11:56 PM

If not too trouble, maybe you can do a fuelly profile for the car

Alright,

Dedicated club up:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2963214