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post Aug 5 2013, 04:52 PM, updated 13y ago

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Poppy seed or known locally by its Turkish name khaskhas, as the name suggest is the seed of the poppy plant. It is usually used in curry and European, Indian, Jewish cuisines. That means our Malaysian favourite nasi kandar probably has poppy seed in them.

I remember last time there is a big hoohaa about this because it is claimed to make people addicted to the curry by some "Dr." but I never heard if poppy seed was banned or not.

So is it legal in Malaysia? I know it is banned in SG due to the morphine content.


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post Aug 5 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 5 2013, 04:54 PM)
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post Aug 5 2013, 04:58 PM

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No wonder nasi kandar nowadays tarak sadap lagi
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 5 2013, 04:58 PM)
No wonder nasi kandar nowadays tarak sadap lagi
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Kena ban or not also dunno la wei.

Some more only a few gram in whole pot of curry, poppy seed is expensive la wei, you think the mamak will taruh 1kg for you ka?

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 5 2013, 04:52 PM)
Poppy seed or known locally by its Turkish name khaskhas, as the name suggest is the seed of the poppy plant. It is usually used in curry and European, Indian, Jewish cuisines. That means our Malaysian favourite nasi kandar probably has poppy seed in them.

I remember last time there is a big hoohaa about this because it is claimed to make people addicted to the curry by some "Dr." but I never heard if poppy seed was banned or not.

So is it legal in Malaysia? I know it is banned in SG due to the morphine content.
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if u go arab country then becareful..many kena jail before for bringing in curry powder..
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Aug 5 2013, 05:03 PM)
if u go arab country then becareful..many kena jail before for bringing in curry powder..
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But Turkey is the main producer of poppy seed.
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 5 2013, 05:04 PM)
But Turkey is the main producer of poppy seed.
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oh..it's UAE....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7234786.stm

even a flu medication might land u in 4-yrs prison sentence...



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post Aug 5 2013, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Aug 5 2013, 05:05 PM)
oh..it's UAE....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7234786.stm

even a flu medication might land u in 4-yrs prison sentence...
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Ok noted.

Back to topic, poppyseed lagal or not in Malaysia?
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:32 PM

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Why is it not legal?
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:39 PM

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growing poppy plant is not legal, eat poppy seed have nothing to do with opium.
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:42 PM

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Not legal la..my waifu shop have sell it.. Silver black colour like that rite??
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Aug 5 2013, 05:05 PM)
oh..it's UAE....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7234786.stm

even a flu medication might land u in 4-yrs prison sentence...
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this type of F up country give me also dowan to go ... 0.003g ? are u kidding me
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 5 2013, 05:42 PM)
this type of F up country give me also dowan to go ... 0.003g ? are u kidding me
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well..each their own....
and not asking u to stay lar..jst go there see see look look travel only....
increase knowledge ma..
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(ChuckyLau @ Aug 5 2013, 05:42 PM)
Not legal la..my waifu shop have sell it.. Silver black colour like that rite??
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_seed

Got diff colour, blue, black, grey and white.
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 5 2013, 04:58 PM)
No wonder nasi kandar nowadays tarak sadap lagi
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just had kok siong nasi kandar.....ya man, not so nice and much more expensive already sad.gif

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QUOTE(ChuckyLau @ Aug 5 2013, 05:42 PM)
Not legal la..my waifu shop have sell it.. Silver black colour like that rite??
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What other not legal things does your waifu shop sell? laugh.gif
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 5 2013, 05:39 PM)
growing poppy plant is not legal, eat poppy seed have nothing to do with opium.
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It still contains the same substance found in poppy plant's latex, just in lower amount and it still gives a positive in urine test.
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:47 PM

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Odd, I've seen more than a few places that bake cakes with poppy seeds...
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:49 PM


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post Aug 5 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 5 2013, 05:46 PM)
just had kok siong nasi kandar.....ya man, not so nice and much more expensive already  sad.gif
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No enought poppy seed....that y
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:52 PM

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Can get this in Malaysia?

Made using poppy seed paste or red bean paste?
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 5 2013, 05:52 PM)
Can get this in Malaysia?

Made using poppy seed paste or red bean paste?
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dunno. it's filled with poppy seeds. gives a slight sweet, nutty and smoky note plus texture to the bun.

can get in malaysia? i don't know. can get in other countries. good luck.
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post Aug 5 2013, 06:08 PM

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if im not mistaken i saw jaya grocer is selling this poppy seed
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post Aug 5 2013, 06:42 PM

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poppy seed widely used on pastry and buns
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:14 PM

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my friends said, its widely used in Indian cooking, its part of their spices, as well.
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 5 2013, 05:58 PM)
No wonder nasi kandar nowadays tarak sadap lagi
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poppy seeds won't make nasi kandar sedap

ganja, on the other hand, will

just a sprinkle of a few crunched up leaves, oboi oboi, tetap wangi dan sedap, and tetap mau makan2 lagi2

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post Aug 5 2013, 09:44 PM

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in Malaysia it is known as kaskas

http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?file=...7646&sec=nation
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post Aug 5 2013, 09:49 PM

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NO

the amount for food preparation is not enough to claim it as a drug subtances
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post Aug 5 2013, 09:53 PM

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post Aug 6 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(NuKkE @ Aug 5 2013, 09:44 PM)
Already mentioned in opening post.
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Aug 5 2013, 09:49 PM)
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the amount for food preparation is not enough to claim it as a drug subtances
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The biggest concern for a ban will be due to whether it is halal or not instead of intoxication effect.

The big issue raised some time ago doesn't seem to have any result.

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post Aug 6 2013, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Aug 5 2013, 08:14 PM)
my friends said, its widely used in Indian cooking, its part of their spices, as well.
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It is considered as a kind of spice, not only used in Indian cooking, it is also used in our beloved fish head curry.
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:17 AM

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Your urine wont test positive for using poppy seed ts.Don't anyhow tembak la.

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post Aug 6 2013, 11:19 AM

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if this is halal... then will be ok liao...
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Aug 6 2013, 11:17 AM)
Your urine wont test positive for using poppy seed ts.Don't anyhow tembak la.
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You will get a false positive after heavy consmption of poppy seed, I don't simply tembak it has been proven.
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QUOTE(ash tray @ Aug 5 2013, 08:16 PM)
poppy seeds won't make nasi kandar sedap

ganja, on the other hand, will

just a sprinkle of a few crunched up leaves, oboi oboi, tetap wangi dan sedap, and tetap mau makan2 lagi2
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This i agree,Cannabis does make food taste better but so does poppy seed.


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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 6 2013, 11:21 AM)
You will get a false positive after heavy consmption of poppy seed, I don't simply tembak it has been proven.
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It does not mean that you will be tested positive for using some sort of drug.
The urine test nowadays is more developed and this kind consumption is nothing.

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QUOTE(Nyan^Nyan @ Aug 6 2013, 11:19 AM)
if this is halal... then will be ok liao...
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Problem is don't even know if this is halal or not.
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:34 AM

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last time eat nasi kandar then ngantuk like mad
nowadays no more oredi sad.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Aug 6 2013, 11:27 AM)
It does not mean that you will be tested positive for using some sort of drug.
The urine test nowadays is more developed and this kind consumption is nothing.
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Read again, poppy seed contain the same morphine and codeine as opium. With high enough consumption, you can actually get high on poppy seed as well. Urine test is done to specifically test for those substance in your urine no matter the source and therefore will give a postive, it is the follow up test that will prove negative, that is if the local police care enough to send the urine for further test instead of press charges based on the early result obtained from urine test.
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Aug 6 2013, 11:34 AM)
last time eat nasi kandar then ngantuk like mad
nowadays no more oredi sad.gif
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You sure it is the poppy seed? Or you just eat too much since ular need time to digest? laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 6 2013, 11:35 AM)
Read again, poppy seed contain the same morphine and codeine as opium. With high enough consumption, you can actually get high on poppy seed as well. Urine test is done to specifically test for those substance in your urine no matter the source and therefore will give a postive, it is the follow up test that will prove negative, that is if the local police care enough to send the urine for further test instead of press charges based on the early result obtained from urine test.
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Reading from wiki and getting punishment in real life is altogether different.
I have tried this things in international borders and they are not stupid to prosecute me.
I've eaten curry with large quantity of poppy seed and have gone through the immigration in singapore countless times before and have been tested 2 times.
They are not stupid and they know the difference.

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 6 2013, 11:36 AM)
You sure it is the poppy seed? Or you just eat too much since ular need time to digest?  laugh.gif
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im pretty sure its the kas kas
the food tasted damn good and you will feel sleepy as hell later
not high though brows.gif

the eating too much part, im not sure laugh.gif
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Reading this give me a new meaning to "Nasik Ganja" (those from Perlis knows it). shocking.gif
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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Aug 6 2013, 11:44 AM)
Reading this give me a new meaning to "Nasik Ganja" (those from Perlis knows it).  shocking.gif
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I know one malay koay teow kerang stall in sungai petani who used canabis kicap in his goreng.
Never have tasted such a koay teow especially in a malay stall anywhere in msia.
Don't know if the stall is still there or not hmm.gif
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post Aug 6 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Aug 6 2013, 11:41 AM)
Reading from wiki and getting punishment in real life is altogether different.
I have tried this things in international borders and they are not stupid to prosecute me.
I've eaten curry with large quantity of poppy seed and have gone through the immigration in singapore countless times before and have been tested 2 times.
They are not stupid and they know the difference.
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I believe that they can tell the difference at the border with enough facility but what about those times when the police decides to raid a random night club or someone got pulled over at the road where they only conduct simple test?

That is when the problem comes.
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QUOTE(ShortLeg @ Aug 6 2013, 11:50 AM)
I know one malay koay teow kerang stall in sungai petani who used canabis kicap in his goreng.
Never have tasted such a koay teow especially in a malay stall anywhere in msia.
Don't know if the stall is still there or not hmm.gif
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Location pls, want to see what so special.
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Aug 6 2013, 12:34 PM)
last time eat nasi kandar then ngantuk like mad
nowadays no more oredi sad.gif
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u enjoice ngantuk2 ?

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Poppy seed is not illegal in m'sia, but don't go getting a drug test for a couple of weeks if you just had poppy seed cake or something, because it will come out positive because you'll still have trace amount of codeine left in your body.
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 6 2013, 12:35 PM)
Read again, poppy seed contain the same morphine and codeine as opium
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oh please !

most of the poppy seeds that are being used in cooking these days are not from the traditional drug producing areas such as Afghanistan or northern Thailand - most are from Australia

Yes, Australia

They grow a species of poppy plants that are LOW in morphine content, much lower than the regular poppy plants

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Aug 6 2013, 12:14 PM)
u enjoice ngantuk2 ?
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not really
i prefer getting high than sleepy
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post Aug 6 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Aug 6 2013, 12:18 PM)
oh please !

most of the poppy seeds that are being used in cooking these days are not from the traditional drug producing areas such as Afghanistan or northern Thailand - most are from Australia

Yes, Australia

They grow a species of poppy plants that are LOW in morphine content, much lower than the regular poppy plants
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Poppy seed production in tonnes (2011)
Source: FAOSTAT
Country---------------Tonne---Percent
Turkey---------------45,077---42.36 %
Czech Republic---26,918---25.29 %
Hungary--------------8,156-----7.66 %
Spain------------------7,000------6.58 %
France----------------6,000------5.64 %
Israel------------------2,561------2.41 %
Croatia----------------2,256------2.12 %
Romania--------------2,173------2.04 %
Germany--------------2,030------1.91 %
Austria-----------------1,614------1.52 %
Serbia------------------1,022------0.96 %
Slovakia------------------887------0.83 %
Netherlands------------492------0.46 %
Macedonia--------------233------0.22 %
World total--------106,419------100 %

Australia is no where to be seen.

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