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post Aug 13 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 13 2013, 11:28 AM)
just curious, after how many % drop did you switch to MM?
how do you determine/decide which funds are to be switched?
and how do you decide when to move back in?
and to what asset class?
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post Aug 13 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 13 2013, 11:37 AM)
thks for the advise..yes it is true, the hidden charges in UT would "EATS" a lot in the long terms
i tried PBB many years back when it was RM 7...it then when up to RM 8.80, i sold all....i guess it was the staying power that i lacked....maybe it was the GREED that i see profits in just a few months....lesson learnt....if you cannot control yourself from greed for profits,....go for those that are not so aggressive...is there any way to overcome /improve on this?
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I believe that there is no right or wrong in terms of sellin off your stocks. Lose money to an extend you will cut lose, when you are satisfy with your profit you sell. There are a lot of 'what if' moments.

My stocks and UT in seperate is yielding more than 8% which is my target % but I ain't selling them because I haven't hold them long enough (and I revised my targeted return a bit higher). It all depends on your intended return you expecting, and you may revise along the way.

Some because of their greed, they hold but in the end they lose money. Some they earn. You cannot predict what will happen next. Yes; you can look at the chart, news etc. but in the end, I believe setting your target return is important. As mentioned earlier, it is alright to revise along the way. Most importantly is know what is your target return. My 2 cent.

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post Aug 13 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 13 2013, 11:59 AM)
When exceed your targeted return you sell...but what if u set your target too low? U lose out.
When it drop below your cut loss you sell...but what if it was on the verge of rebound? U keep waiting and waiting and waiting for the "right" re-entry, u end up losing opportunity cost.

Sometimes it's better to just stick to it (your asset allocation) and go live your life or PM Pinky and ask him bring u go hug amoi at pub wink.gif
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Addressing your first paragraph, I view it as 2 seperate scenario. "Right" re-entry price, now.. Would you buy in a US fund now.. I'm VERY SURE it will drop further. So what opportunity cost? I would wait rather than making a loss you know will happen and average down again. Maybe that's me.

Your concern is WHAT IF you set your targeted return too low, and you sell way too early. Thats each to their own right? Some intend to hold long term like you, someone like me like to hold 3-4 years max, and some short term. Yklooi didn't mention UT, so short term does apply here. Same goes to selling. Some drop 10% and they cannot take it, you cut loss. Some like us we average down.

Once again, I believe there is no yes or no answer here. Some may be greedy and set higher return, some may set lower. For example, last month when HSAQ was at their highest, some people may opt to lock their profit. Some may choose to hold. In the end, they profited from it while we are still waiting for it to goes back to that level.

That's why I mentioned that people can revise their intend cut lose point and target return along the way. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pink.

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post Aug 14 2013, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Aug 13 2013, 01:38 PM)
I think UT is not suitable for short term investment, best to do that with stock. If you can time the market with UT, you can do that with stock market as well and with better return. My money once invested in UT never go out, always in UT as it is for my retirement. I have stock market for short term trading/investment.
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When I said that, I wasn't referring to UT alone. yklooi didn't specifically said UT.
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post Aug 14 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 01:59 PM)
The pubs I go will musnahkan your rumahtangga...so, no! laugh.gif

why u track that fund? U got buy meh blink.gif
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post Aug 14 2013, 08:12 PM

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Same here; even my PGSF also +2% ROI
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post Aug 16 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Aug 16 2013, 12:00 PM)
this is the martingale system, it is usually being used in betting, in casino.
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And I think uncle gark was not serious with what he said. Chill. Haha.

US market drop more, I'm planning to buy in within these 2 weeks smile.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 15 2013, 09:10 AM)
HQAF NAV as of yesterday is 1.3301 (August 13, 2013).

Its highest NAV is 1.3347 on May 29, 2013.

Asia ex Japan valuation is still low if compared fair PE of 14.

Asia ex Japan (MSCI Asia ex Japan): 2013 PE: 11.5 2014 PE: 10.2 2015 PE: 9.3
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Broken already. Checked my holdings and it's now reflected as 1.33570. Portfolio all time high too. Good to see PGSF finally in the green. GEYF next tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 16 2013, 05:26 PM)
Martingale...express bus to hell if u are at casino table laugh.gif
GEYF sudah lama green lor. tongue.gif

PGSF green is the best-est, IRR jumped to 5%+ some more rclxms.gif
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Yes. I was shocked when I login my FSM app and saw my ROI +3%. All thanks to PGSF smile.gif

GEYF sudah lama green, but I still waiting to buy in. Waiting to see how much US market can drop further smile.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 16 2013, 11:07 PM)
Huh...who was the guy who kept cursing PGSF last time ar? tongue.gif
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Haha.. Still doesn't change my mind that I might sell it off. Since it's performing so far, I'm thinking to just leave it there. I just won't top up.

Just read an article that analyst are expecting Dow to hit
20k mark soonest than their expected. That's really optimistic of them.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:43 AM)
By when? From current level, it'll be another 33% gain!
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I'm not following, David. You mean selling of PGSF or Dow hitting 20k mark?
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post Aug 18 2013, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 17 2013, 05:00 PM)
You mentioned that you have read an article that it's very optimistic that DJIA could hit 20k mark soon.

Where's the source? By when the article said that it could hit 20k mark? Any reasons or grounds on that? I'm just curious to know.
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Oh, I read it in Business Insider. Let me try to find the link. I saw it through their twitter.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 18 2013, 12:43 PM)
AmDynamic declares distribution:

AmDynamic Bond | RM 0.015 per unit |  05-Sep-2013
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Thanks for the info smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:26 AM

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This week will be a crucial week smile.gif

Monitor, monitor, buy in global fund. CHARGE!!!
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:48 PM)
You should have bought it during IPO.

Well, I think for now, it's better to go for OSK-UOB Global Equity Fund.
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QUOTE(genesic @ Aug 20 2013, 01:12 PM)
so now is the good time to buy US fund ? which one would you select and why ?  hmm.gif
i just realised i dont have US exposure  cry.gif
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Go FSM, read up all the popular global funds fact sheet. See which one you are most comfortable with.

I like AGEYF because like the name suggest, it invests in a lot of dividend paying company. Exposure wise it is 40+% in US, with the rest in Europe etc. The way I like it.
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 20 2013, 01:32 PM)
Sila baca Post #1 Point #2 whistling.gif
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Wow Pink, dare to call David to read back. Want die ah? biggrin.gif whistling.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 20 2013, 01:43 PM)
Fixed doh.gif
FSM thread aku taiko, dia taiko PM thread aje tongue.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:53 PM

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Actually looking at the article shared earlier on the capital flowing back to US, now would be a good time to invest. Maybe not rock bottom, but at least money is flowing back which will help the economy. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, we will know the Feds decision tomorrow. So expecting some action tomorrow or the day after next.

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post Aug 21 2013, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Aug 21 2013, 07:51 AM)
in such a dilemma, rclxub.gif
US is green and might be going up and up...
but Asia Ex Japan might be a good time to buy too cuz dropping too..
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