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post Aug 7 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(blizice @ Aug 7 2013, 10:22 AM)
Noted Sifu... i am thinking of buy china and US fund ...EI Dinasty and RHB GS US ...wait for opportunity now
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IMHO China funds can start to enter now

Whereas for RHB GS US, buy little by little, buy on dips
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 7 2013, 10:51 AM)
Somehow this thread is getting quieter and slower in pace. hmm.gif
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cos everyone have learnt more and got lesser questions to ask? smile.gif

QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 7 2013, 11:09 AM)
hmm.gif i think it got to do with the "mood"
i think i am now in the anxiety period
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post Aug 7 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 7 2013, 01:28 PM)
Me too same boat, bought in May or Jun, cant remember using EPF. Now also -4%
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Maybe now is a good time for me to buy using EPF brows.gif

Hwang Select Opportunity + Hwang Select Balanced

Then a lot of my $$$ will be in the hands of HwangIM...my portfolio also got Ponzi Quantum and Select Asia Opportunity hmm.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 7 2013, 01:38 PM)
Haha.. my EPF also HSO and HSB.
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Other option is OSK-UOB Emerging Opportunity + KidSave unsure.gif
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post Aug 8 2013, 02:42 PM

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Why u all no like my lover OSK-UOB GEYF sad.gif
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post Aug 8 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 8 2013, 03:20 PM)
Maybe 2/3 exposure in Asia
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That's AGEF lar, I'm talkin bout OSK-UOB GEYF, almost 90% in developed markets lar doh.gif
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post Aug 8 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 8 2013, 04:06 PM)
Opps. Sorry. How's the performance so far?
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It's the 2nd best performer in my portfolio at 13% IRR thumbup.gif

1st...the Ponzi fund, 40% IRR biggrin.gif

QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 8 2013, 04:10 PM)

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Unker Looi very helpful lately rclxms.gif

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post Aug 8 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 8 2013, 04:55 PM)
When u start ur investment in these 2 funds? Top up monthly?
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GEYF since 2009
Ponzi Quantum 1 year ago

Both also buy on dips wink.gif
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post Aug 8 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Aug 8 2013, 05:10 PM)
GEYF portfolio allocation suits what I want. But not under the promo SC fund right?
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No, it's not a FSM Recommended Fund.
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post Aug 8 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Aug 8 2013, 05:25 PM)
Pink, do share your view further on this fund throughout your years of investing in it. Personally AGEF is not for me due to the high exposure in Japan market. GEYF has too high in US market, but I guess I have to compromise a little (I can invest little in it).
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Then, what u want??? rclxub.gif

GEYF has about 1/3 in Europe, 50% in US, personally I feel that it's balanced/diversified enough.

It's my favourite global fund, focus on stable, cash-generative businesses, need I say more? wink.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 8 2013, 05:35 PM)
AGEF. USA 12%, UK 3%, Japan 13%
my thinking is, what is the 13% in terms of the total value in the portfolio. if the worst were to happens in Jpn and this 13% got wiped out...how much $$ will it be affected in the portfolio....
it is always good to have some in Jpn and US....some of the best and BIG global companies are from there!!
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 8 2013, 05:24 PM)
Sad la, this month broke and can't top up my UT
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What u did this month sampai broke, Kaka bro? brows.gif
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 8 2013, 07:17 PM)
U guys monitor mutual funds like monitoring stocks.
I tot for fund investment u only monitor it every quarterly?
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I dunno about the others, as for myself, I monitor the market looking for the occasional dips to top up.

And we "monitor" just for the sake of discussion and to keep each other company, for DIY investing can get a bit "lonely" at times. blush.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 9 2013, 10:02 AM)
Where?
U mean past time? Puchong & Sunway Mentari plenty - Pink's the expert tongue.gif

ok ok back to the topic, else moderators nuke me sweat.gif
Anyone here ball-sy enough to go gung-ho and buy/sell to hit a planned Asset Allocation just like that <snaps fingers>?
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say from holding 80% of bonds/cash VS 20% equities,
then just buying/spending down bonds/cash
to hit 30% bonds/cash VS 70% equities?

Personally, my nuts aint made of steel, thus i just whittle-down / re-allocate towards my targeted % within 6 months (if my held % is off by 25% of planned)
ie. plan 6 mths to execute extra purchases/SWITCHING on top of my quarterly die-die value averaging + dollar averaging
Then after the 6 mhs, review again and see how much more if it is still off by 25%

Just thinking any better ways yet not balls-to-the-wall gungho oneshot rebalance?  notworthy.gif
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I feel tempted to lend a word or two into this argument:

Traditionally, stocks mean ownership of a company. Only wealthy ppl and/or ppl with excess wealth would purchase stocks, to own a certain % of a company and to participate in its profits and decision-making. Hence, if stock prices went up, it's bcos ppl are willing to pay more to own it. If u can't afford it, then don't buy, u won't die/suffer without owning stocks.

Whereas for properties ESPECIALLY residential properties, the original intention/purpose of residential properties is to provide a shelter to ppl. But greedy ppl went to speculate and push up property prices, causing ppl who need a house to pay more. Don't u property investors believe in karma?

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post Aug 11 2013, 01:35 PM

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FSM's ever-popular equity fund Kenanga Growth Fund has beaten its benchmark since ages
So does OSK-UOB KidSave Trust
And Hwang Select Opportunity Fund
And Hwang Select Income
And AmDynamic Bond
And I could go on and on with the list...
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post Aug 11 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 11 2013, 01:53 PM)
Well I should replace the 90% with "majority". As forumers here likes to catch my words as an English teacher.

Try to google the key word "mutual fund outperform" and u may find the answers.

Most of the local mutual funds when they published their performance they only show gross return but not the net return. Investment cost like initial charge, annual admin fee, performance fee, trustee fees all shd be included when calculating and comparing the net to net return.

We hope to have a healthy discussion here.
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Mr Cheah,

I'm being serious and not looking for a war, u SERIOUSLY DO NOT KNOW MUTUAL FUNDS, ALL THOSE CHARGES ARE ALREADY REFLECTED IN THE NAV PRICING.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 11 2013, 04:51 PM)
Thanks for highlighting this.
Some funds display gross some display net performance. I did know more about mutual funds that is why I only get 8%pa for the last 13 years, u probably get better return.
So ur research reveals that majority of the funds outperform market?
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Read carefully, when they say "net", it only mean net of initial sales charge, AFAIK ALL MUTUAL FUNDS in Malaysia and Singapore already taken admin, trustee and other expenses in NAV calculation.

If majority of funds outperform market, u won't see the rise of ETFs.

That is why we have to do some homework to select the better ones from the many available out there.

It's those ppl who don't do any homework, relies solely on sales pitch to buy and then whine "UTs are a scam, I could get better returns elsewhere" that pisses me off.

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post Aug 11 2013, 05:11 PM

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And back to the karma thingy...

That is why I'm also personally against trading of commodities esp agricultural goods, those items are necessities to many, and yet greedy traders manipulate the prices to their advantage.

Stocks are not a necessities, u won't starve to death if u don't own any stocks. Thus if u talk about fund managers speculating on stocks, I've nothing against them.

A little contribution goes a long way.

If u kept thinking "well, everyone does it, so if I don't do it out of conscience, then I'm losing out", then when karma comes/God questions you on Judgment Day, don't complain. wink.gif

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post Aug 11 2013, 05:33 PM

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Ok, then I am a communist.

Then I presume Mr Cheah also more than happy to live under a corrupt government bcos "the majority kept it in power, even though it wasn't won free and square", u are not willing to contribute your share to change the world that u are living in.

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