Uh well I guess fruit fans are content in their pretty walled garden.

For someone handy with a torx, why stick to fruit?

Observe the camera hole layout....it's S4-like....so it seems that the current generation of Samsung (Design 2.0) has a vertical layout for camera and led flash.

I wonder what Design 3.0 will hold

Popup Xenon flash???????

This will be nice as an accessory:

More Images Of The Sony Lens Camera Attachments Leak, Look Bizarre From Every Angle [Update]
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/02/mo...om-every-angle/

Coincidentally I do hav a phone with a fingerprint sensor. It makes some stuff really good like access control for kids.

I don't think it will be non-plastic. I can't change how you perceive the tactile quality of the product, but to me, a piece of technology is its internal beauty. External adornments are a plus but not do or die.

Precisely, like what mydragoon mentioned in his "Is anything exciting" thread.

Let's not get into the functionality vs aesthetics war.

It is undeniable we prefer good looking people, and also good looking things. There was even a book or two written about it. However, we are dealing with a piece of technology, not a work of art nor decor, nor a hot chick/guy.

Technology's primary defining characteristic is functionality, therefore anything else is "non-functional". This is also not really anything to do with "interface" since it's just a large slab of glass with a shell, with virtual buttons to push. Every one that writes about materials talks about that intangible factor called "feel". It adds no functionality to the phone.

Strictly speaking, "reliability" is also non-functional, but it is a desirable characteristic, so it can be engineered to a specified tolerance level of reliability and before planned obsolescence sets in

However, for those die hards about "feel", get whatever makes you feel good.

This post has been edited by joytest: Sep 4 2013, 12:53 AM

Approx another 24 hours to go......

This post has been edited by joytest: Sep 4 2013, 01:13 AM

Limau Ais for the next version.

I like yr siggy pic. Who is she?

IMHO, for its time, the Nokia N8 probably fits the "good looking" + "reliable" + "feature-full".

Best phone for its time.

13 hours.....

Expect no surprises except maybe for scantily clad Germans....

Sehr gutem!
Knox in action ...

Well even then you're not there right? The surprise will make you feel so left out.

Nicht mehr but its functionality is limited why get one?

What about you, good sir? I'm sure you can afford a couple as well.

For Note 1 users, this will be a good upgrade. Should be almost TRIPLE performance from the benchmark numbers.

BTW....THIS IS AN INTERESTING YEAR !!!!!!

A viable contender with ACTIVE DIGITIZER.....

http://www.slashgear.com/alcatel-one-touch...ector-04295967/

1.5GHz, 2Gb RAM, 6" FHD....

Also launching at IFA. It will be extremely interesting to see if the stylus is up to snuff, and this may be CHEAPER than the Note 3. Dual SIM will be icing on the cake.

6 more hours to go !!!!!!!!

Then the rest of the week will be full of reviews, hands on etc, and I would love to see the comparison of the Alcatel Hero to the Note 3.

Saw this last night but it seems that it needs a Samsung app. I think that's a bad idea since it will be proprietary.

No arrr....it was v1 for 2 months until the global launch sometime in September, then v3 when it launched in Malaysia.

This year will be slow since we are now spoiled for choice and I think many people have upgrade fatigue.

This is normal, so I guess we won't expect any ultra speed threads. I will be pleasantly surprised if we get off v1 by end of this week.