hi there bro...my advice to u dont go with gold investment that dont get any physical gold at your hand...the risk are too high...im also a gold investor but only take physical gold...paper gold will not be valuable if anything happened to the company...and also with physical gold if u need to get instant cash u can liquid it easily at any arrahnu outlets...paper gold wont be that easy to be liquid...invest physical gold ROI are not for short term but more to long term investment...so it may or not give monthly profit but still ur asset is in secure because it is in your hand...there are many tricks to make physical gold profitable with fast but u need to have knowledge for that...

If u r interest to buy physical gold u can go for public gold...their price are near with the actual price of gold and have a very low depreciate only from 3%-14%...so u dont need to take a long time to liquid ur physical gold and make profit from it...grossly in a year ROI of physical gold can reach 20%-30% if u know how to do it...

MY CHOICE OF PHYSICAL GOLD ?

- Gold bar
- Gold Coin / dinar

WHY PUBLIC GOLD?

- the price with the actual price are near
- low depreciate only from 3%-14%
- U can touch the gold or bite it or whatever and the gold still can be sold to Public gold without a problem
- If anything happened to your physical gold either it is break into a pieces public gold still accepting them without a problem
- U can liquid ur physical gold for instant cash at many arrahnu outlets like Arrahnu Xchange, Agrobank, Poslaju, YaPeim and others.
- We also providing safe deposit for our customers to keep their gold secure.
- u can buy our physical gold at any part of the world. What u only need to do is make an online order and we will keep the gold for u


if u r interest please PM me...im a dealer at Public Gold International Berhad...i can assist u how to order with public gold...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 13 2014, 08:56 AM

i know this Tok Belagak and his business on gold...

im gonna say his kind of business there is a 50/50 of risk...

before this he was promoting delayed order but later his business was under BNM alert...then he change delayed order to restock buy...the same concept with delayed order but the name was changed so BNM will not see it as a lending money scam...let say u buy from him at 150/g he will bought back ur gold at 170/g after 1 month...u have 2 option either it rotate automatically (the gold at his hand) he will give ur profit 20/g every month for 1 year or manually (u have the gold in your hand) but u need to give it back to him to get the profit 20/g...then u buy back that gold from him maybe with the same price /g and do that again..usually he will keep the price until further notices...now he have new kind of shceme u can ask him directly or add him on fb under the name of Tok Belagak....i heard he is a quite successful person in property and gold...

however personally im doubting with his gold business operative so that's why i never join him and stay with Public Gold...but please dont take me wrongly, i never accuse he as a scammer...whoever want to join can ask him directly...he is quite active in FB...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 15 2014, 12:29 PM

for me personally to take advantage on physical gold to earn profit it will need a big capital...when the price is keep falling we buy the gold again and again...make sure the falling price is more than 5% before rebuying...later when the price is going up again u can sell it one by one and earn profit...to take advantage on this make sure u invest either gold bar or gold coin because the depreciation only around 6%-4%...



This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 15 2014, 02:49 PM

as long as u get the physical gold at your hand yes it will be no risk...but if they invest for u than it is ur choice want to join or not...if u ask me, it just like lending money scheme...u give them money and u get nothing but they promise u to gift return/profit...if anything happened to their investment u will bear the loss not them...

ur example cant be use...the depreciation of gold are too low...not logical at all...usually the depreciate of gold are from 4%-30%...u should give example close to this calculation...if not ur calculation to get profit this fast are too good to be true...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 18 2014, 12:23 PM

last time i go to poh kong they said their gold bar to sell back at their place will have depreciation of 10%...if the seal is off an extra depreciate of 15% will be charge...wow thats mean without the seal total of depreciation is 25%...damn so high...even public gold are much lower than that...gold bar only from 4%-6%...not more than that...and even u can bite their gold or liquid for money at any arrahnu...

for those who want to invest in silver sure need to start from now...now per gram cost of silver are less than 2.00...in the future if this price turn to 10.00 u already make 8x of profit...so for me for those with limit budget but want to invest for their future silver is the best choice...if u have 5kg of silver within the next 20 years i guess to become rich will be possible...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 18 2014, 10:45 PM

no i dun think so...if the price of gold go to sky high, many of people wont effort to buy gold anymore...when that time is come the silver price also will be hike because of the concept supply and demand...im sure enough after 10-20 years silver price can be higher more 5x from the current price...and if u see the history of silver their supply is depreciate a lot since 30 years ago...and their demands in the industrial use also are increasing every year...

i can see many of physical gold investor here want to buy gold / silver at the lowest price as possible...and if the company could provide the lowest price u are willing to deal with them online and ask them to courier ur gold to ur home. Do u know the deal u make was high risk? why u just dun buy with a company which have more than 12 branches all over Malaysia. At each state have their own branch instead with the company which only have 1 HQ without branches...even their price is a bit high (not too high compare to the other company im surveying) but the process is a lot easier and u can get the gold / silver by ur own...no need to bear the risk using courier services to send for ur gold...other than that most of the company have complete seal on their package which mean if u want to liquid ur gold at any Arrahnu outlets will be hard because the depreciation of the gold might be increase. Some company if u unseal their packaging u will get an extra depreciate on their gold product...why cant u hold ur own gold with ur hand instead only look at the packaging...u also will never know either the gold u buy is genuine or fake because of the seal packaging. If u r interest on the company that u can sell back their gold in whatever condition, low depreciate, no seal packaging with certificate, easy to be liquid at any Arrahnu outlets, have many branches, easy process with online order and etc PM me...im glad to assist u.

Note : now we are providing accumulate program so u can start to buy ur gold as low as RM100 per month. U also can buy ur gold as low as 1g. Lets start ur physical gold investment with our company. Thank you.

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 20 2014, 01:06 PM

haha yes u r right ...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 20 2014, 11:56 AM

all of this because of USD are keep strong...

dun involve in paper gold investment if u can...involve in physical bullion either gold / silver...

why? because gold price is unpredictable...some gold investment promise to give their clients profit by monthly...just look at how the price of gold recently? try to think like this...if u buy ur gold at 150/g and currently gold price is drop to 120/g can u earn profit? nope right...so basically investment on gold r always on this basis buy, keep and sell...not the other way around...or by technique and fundamental also u can sell ur gold at fast even gold price when down...but all of this need physical gold...if u only buy paper gold means u need to hope the gold price remain upward to earn profit...in case u need money u need to sell some of ur gold in ur account...if the time u sell ur gold the price is down sure u already make a loss there...but if u have physical gold incase u need fast money u can pawn ur gold at any arrahnu outlets...that gold will remain ur for the next 6 month...if u still dun have money to take back ur gold either u sell the pawn letter to 3rd party or u paid the storage fee for the whole 6 month and u will get an extra 6 month before u take back ur gold...this is much safer and u can keep ur gold as long as possible until the right price / gold price is higher than ur purchased price to earn profit (how much is the ROI depend to ur sell price and ur purchased price)...many investor make loss by paper gold because they sell it back before the gold price is higher than their purchased price...that's why involve in physical gold is much profitable and safer than paper gold...other than that if u invest in private company for example Genneva they use paper gold actually u just pay the price for the gold but actually the physical gold never exist or if it does exist the amount of gold they have actually are far less than the total of investment involved in the scheme...its just like the ponzi scheme...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 25 2014, 02:59 PM

yes thats rite...people with power who was the one manipulate the market trend either its precious metal or currency... people must understand and being educate to invest in physical gold than paper gold so it cant be manipulated with the involvement strength of currency...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Aug 27 2014, 10:05 AM

i was start investing in gold when the gold price 916 at 180/g...now currently the gold price already around 120-140/g...for me if u r still not selling ur gold for money it's still worthy...just a matter of time before the price gonna hike again and reach the old price or higher than that...with how economy goes on recently especially at US where they want to strengthen their dollars, geopolitical issue like Ukraine and Russia with some rumors US involve with it, yes gold price will keep at the bottom...my advice if u still have some gold in your hands just keep it for now....dun sell it unless u really need money...now for physical gold investor its the best price for them to keep buying and increase their stock in hands...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Sep 3 2014, 09:51 AM

wow now DEPB also had been discussed in here...personally im not trust them 100%...the main point because their business is not transparent...to earn profit with gold is always on this basis buy low, keep, and sell high...

HOWEVER,
if they do have regular customer who buy consistently buy gold with their company, yes this buy and restock program could be legit.

SIMULATION:

Factory sell price = RM120/g
Investment sell price = RM140/g
Sell price to regular customer = RM150/g

Let say if u invest 1000g with a total of RM140000k (the investment price purchased RM140/g), so if they can sell ur investment gold at RM150/g the investment return by selling gold to regular customer will be RM10,000.

1. 1,000g of gold investment price - factory price = investment return1

RM140,000 - RM120,000 = RM20,000

2. Amount of gold in the investment X profit from sell to regular customer = investment return2

1,000g x RM10 = RM10,000

3. Total of return investment = Investment return1 + Investment return2

RM20,000 + RM10,000 = RM30,000

4. Investment price + Total of return investment / Weight of gold = Buy price for investment in gram

RM140,000 + RM30,000 / 1000 = RM170/g

5. Company Profit = RM10/g

RM170-RM10 = RM160

Buy & Restock program

Sell Price = RM140/g
Buy Price = RM160/g

P/S : In this simulation the investor will earn a profit for 1000g of gold RM20,000 a month and the company will earn profit RM10,000 a month.

How can they do this method if the gold was at their investor hand? The answer is they also have the same amount of investment gold in stock. When they sell their gold in stock and turn it into cash, after a month the investor give back the gold and they give them the cash and this will rotate again and again. Both will earn profit. If this were the method they r using in manipulate gold price, it is legit because even the gold price is keep dropping wont be a problem as they just need to set a new Sell and Buy Price for their Buy & Restock program...

sorry for my bad english and messy grammar...

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Sep 8 2014, 12:35 PM