caters for degradation and headroom for enhancements. lasts you longer by just paying a bit more.
A quick question about PSU, for future upgrade.
A quick question about PSU, for future upgrade.
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Jul 31 2013, 01:24 AM
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Best is just to get 1 step higher than what you think is enough.
caters for degradation and headroom for enhancements. lasts you longer by just paying a bit more. |
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Jul 31 2013, 01:50 AM
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yes. that's what I mean.
3 ways to look at things. 1. buy what you think is sufficient. 2. buy something that's 1 notch above what you think is sufficient. 3. take what you need, multiply it by 2 and buy 1 step higher. a PSU will last longer when it's at lesser load. ![]() either one is fine but if you can, the 620w will give you better value as the higher power rating also means your usage stresses it less. that additional 60w is a lot of headroom for upgrades or overclock if some day you intend to walk that path. |
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Aug 2 2013, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Jul 31 2013, 08:49 PM) Suspecting the explosion is caused by high power draw from the system. Also please advise the AVR I can use to further protect my PC. I already have an AVR but not sure if it is the correct voltage I need to use. No. Power draw doesn't cause it to go kaboom.I'm using Xigmatek NRP-PC602 600W I'm running i5 / i7 / FX with HD 7970. Overall more power consumption than yours, no issues. |
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Aug 2 2013, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(westom @ Aug 1 2013, 09:24 PM) That is classic junk science reasoning. Some supplies are under greatest stress when only outputting half the rated power. At half power, it must restrict more power causing greater stress, generating more heat, and operating at a less efficient operating point. To say more always required spec numbers unique to each supply. It demonstrates how to identify recommendations based in junk science reasoning. Claims made without numbers (subjectively) may be classic junk science. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...tion&ndfaq_id=3 you can try it yourself. from my personal experience (as a serial PSU killer of lowyat.net) I've had 450w PSU delivering 400w 24/7 and I've had 600w delivering 300w 24/7. guess which one lasts longer. |
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Aug 2 2013, 05:01 PM
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sorry, what you talking about?
in my case. the 450w delivering 400w 24/7 didn't last long. I've had a few that I run at 80% - 90% load. they deteriorated really fast, depending on the brand and quality. what I mentioned was just to show how the stress affects the PSU. we've not gone into the details like the construct and components of the PSU. case in point, my Gigabyte Odin GT lasted way longer than Vantec Ion2 of similar wattage doing similar high-load 24/7 routine. |
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Aug 3 2013, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(westom @ Aug 3 2013, 03:53 AM) The PSU calculator is made by people who have little electrical knowledge, and worse, do not have specific numbers for your unique hardware. Any layman - even a teenager - can measure his own system. For example Kill-A-Watt is a classic and inexpensive tool to have numbers. Since only those who have numbers can answer with honesty. many components are operating within a certain amount of power draw, it's not difficult to estimate. Kill-A-Watt is not something found here, nevertheless like I said - it's not difficult to estimate even without having to use that tool. QUOTE(westom @ Aug 3 2013, 03:53 AM) Or learn from so many others who measured their systems. They also discovered the 700 watt supply feeding a computer that only consumed maybe 200: most systems barely consume 300w, even when playing games.http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php...91#post34917091 however PSU recommendation is always on a safe figure assuming everything is on full load. No reason to recommend PSU that's "JUST NICE" that limits the headroom. btw those people DISCOVER because they don't know. PSU information / knowledge has been around for ages. |
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