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ALeUNe
post Sep 11 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 10 2013, 04:39 PM)
Just wondering, anyone using SoJ setup? what do you think about it? Is it worth the lost of stats from rare ring to get that 28-30% E Damage/skill damage?
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For my build, 2 reasons I dropped my SoJ.
I didn't have adequate EHP with SoJ.
I didn't need spirit generation from SoJ. FoT/Quickening is the perfect skill for spirit generation. No gear can replace that.
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post Sep 13 2013, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(Coconut @ Sep 12 2013, 10:22 PM)
Thanks to Deckard Cain for helping me to upgrade some of my gears. Just realised when someone posted the SW no longer snapshot, so i dont think i need blinding flash anymore, what is the next best skill to use now?
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Blinding flash for snapshot? hmm.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 21 2013, 11:55 AM)
Amitābha, mahaMonk!

My apprentice monk with 2.49aps would like to know if there is an attacks per second breakpoint that needs to be achieved for better Sweeping Winds proc.
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Spamming burst damage skill is all you need.
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post Sep 23 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 23 2013, 01:21 PM)
I miss fist weapon, but good fist weapon is very very rare...
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I saw few 1200+ DPS fist weapon with LS + socket on sale at GAH.
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post Sep 23 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Sep 23 2013, 01:38 PM)
Sebenarian means in euro server not us server I collect . hmm.gif
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Oh... forgot that. laugh.gif
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post Sep 23 2013, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Sep 23 2013, 05:05 PM)
413k oni..

Eh guys.. any idea how to defeat WD in brawling?? they are too OP la.. if they pump their vit more that 100k.. definitely lost.. Last time brawl with Mirai.. only manage to cut down half of his 200k hp..lol

Edited : i brawl using my TR monk
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To have a fair playing field, I think you need 200K HP too. nod.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 12:35 PM)
Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearsomeWKLFist as follow;-

Active Skills
1. Fists of Thunder -Thunderclap
2. Dashing Strike -Quicksilver
3. Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light
4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion
6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skills
1. Exalted Soul
2. Seize the Initiative
3. Pacifism

Gameplay
Activate DS -Quicksilver then followed by SW -Cyclone and perform BoH -IwL instantly. FoT -Thunderclap made it so easy to stick with your constantly feared target to get out of the heavily covered with elemental attack areas and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion.

Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up
Summary
Weapons = A high fear factor of 17.5% + osRuby Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH)
DPS = 228k
EHP = 618k

Notes:
How to handle RD with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH? Just simply move WKL over to MH and swap in a 34% block + cc StormShield ...insignificant problem is solved!
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You are using 1 active skill + 1 passive skill for spirit generation.
IMO, it is not really effective because you can free some skill slots for burst damage skill like WoL or passive like NDE & OWE.
(defensive attributes of OWE will help you in coping RD elites).

Try replace FoT/Thunderclap with Quickening.
It should give you enough spirit generation.
With quickening, you should be able to spam your 1xWoL or 2xCyclone Strike every second.

But you need to get used to skill like FoT/Quickening as you don't teleport anymore.
As you use Cyclone Strike, you don't need to "stick" to the mobs since you pull the mobs to you.
Moreover, you're using Dashing Strike, you don't need teleport from FoT/Thunderclap.

WoL & Cyclone Strike combo is awesome.

For gears, instead of swapping your EF to SS, you might as well get an EF with LS.
You need additional LS at current state. You may probably drop LS when you hit 400K DPS (like invis, perhaps).
Using SS means you sacrifice a lot of DPS, imo, which is inefficient and unnecessary.

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post Sep 25 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 25 2013, 04:28 PM)
D3up shows 300K DPS too.

http://d3up.com/b/1090377
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post Sep 25 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 04:48 PM)
ALeUNe,

Thanks for the skills suggestions, I'll be sure to give WoL a spin. However, Thunderclap is simply incredible with WKL period so that means Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light has got the boot.

My belief is a monk character class has got what it takes to stay alive with ~3% ls and no more. Never let RD affix to convince us to settle for more ls and thus, weaken our tdps . So, that means it's ~3% ls + possibly, 300k dps for WKL ultimately.
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Both thunderclap and quickening are lightning based skills.
Both will benefit from WKL's lightning damage bonus.
You have pretty high crit chance. Quickening will give you lots of spirit through crit chance.

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3% LS is certainly doable. You just need to kite a bit in some circumstances.

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post Sep 25 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 05:08 PM)
I've never tried 3% LS but yes, it's sustainable with that amount of LS. I might try it one of these days but dang,.. have to find weapon with CD = spend some more.
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Doable for sure, especially you go with the bell.
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM)
Yeah I think bell damage is so overpowered that the Life you're getting back is insanely huge. Though I fear belling the wrong RD mob might also cost insta death  sweat.gif
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It depends on your defensive attributes like AR/Armor/melee attack damage mitigation/e damage mitigation etc.
Try land the bell on a group of mobs, mix of white mobs and RD elites. That should be safe.

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post Sep 26 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 11:11 PM)
2) I've tried Fists of Thunder -Quickening to generate sufficient spirit to spam the combo of CS -Implosion and Wave of Light but something isn't right!
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Bold part, you don't teleport anymore? hmm.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(present me @ Sep 26 2013, 12:33 AM)
cha ching!!! laugh.gif
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Congrats!
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Sep 26 2013, 10:00 AM)
also, the damages is lower,
Thunderclap 110%+35%;
but Quickening only 110%

i believe cookies cutter still suit him according to his gearing.
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Damage doesn't come from FoT/Quickening.
Real damage comes from the bell and cyclone strike combo.
1-2m+/hit per target from cyclone strike
3-5m+/hit per target from WoL.

Quickening is used solely for spirit generation.

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 26 2013, 10:11 AM)
The play style or more specifically the punches are no longer quick however the combo is a viable different ball game altogether.
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Yeap, play style will be very different, especially when you accustom to FoT/Thunderclap.

It took me quite a while to get used to Quickening. I got so frustrated chasing the mobs with Quickening.
Then one day I realized i didn't actually need to chase them. I pulled them in instead with Cyclone Strike. laugh.gif

Just use any play style that suits you. nod.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 27 2013, 09:13 AM)
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You've got good EHP. thumbup.gif
Time to buff your DPS to a new level.

I believe FoT/Quickening alone should give you enough spirit for spamming your WoL & CS.
So, you may drop passive/Exalted Soul.
Replace it with passive/combination strike.

Drop dashing strike and use deadly reach/foresight.

Passive/combination strike + deadly reach/foresight will give you 34% DPS buff (before MoC).
With the DPS buff, all of your skills will get a huge boost.
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post Sep 28 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 28 2013, 01:17 PM)
This Bell build is so OP and fun to play. Dash bell dash bell.. Thinking of trying with skorn pulak... but have to spend gold some more.. aiyo..
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As fe3doe and gladly said, a skorn can only replace by a better skorn.

If you opt for skorn, buy the best skorn you can afford. Do it once and for all.
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post Sep 28 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 28 2013, 04:53 PM)
A skorn is to be replaced by a Doom Hammer.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Druin-1518/hero/29149975
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Bleeding damage on skorn is very good.

2 incidents I can share.

1)
Tested on WD.
12K bleed but -6K paper DPS VS 8.5K bleed but +6K paper DPS.
12K bleed won by 3-5 seconds @ Ghom MP10 test.
Tested more than 20 runs.
I sold the lower bleed skorn eventually.

2)
When we first ran MP10 uber, MOBAjobg facetanked Siegebreaker with skorn. The other 3 players went after Kulle.
Moba always killed Siegebreaker 1st.
If my memory serves me right, all 4 players have the paper DPS of 150-180K.
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post Oct 1 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Oct 1 2013, 11:57 AM)
just curious, can nirvana bell deliver higher dps if solo ghom?
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Probably yes @ Ghom if you can spam bells continuously.

But no in normal game play because bell will knock back mobs and blue elites.
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post Oct 2 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Oct 2 2013, 10:19 AM)
@Moba later got time i post vid lar. Now so busy with work till the 13th, by the way I did do some Ghom runs and its not amazing but I noticed he DROPS DE ALL THE TIME? i don't know if you anyone else notices but he does almost all the time. It's easy DE farming
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Yes, DE farming, go Ghom.

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