Anyone has side by side picture compare for Logitech G400s and Steelseries Rival?
I'm planning a mouse to replace my almost a decade old companion (yes, a decade old) MX518 first gen (yeah, guess that again, FIRST GEN!! 5 little mice feet!) so I heard Rival has some really good sensor and all, but unknown LMB & RMB switches
If anyone is kind enough because here all the store does not have demo unit, all packaging is secured so I can't even compare side by side (reluctant to ask salesperson to do that without buying).
If possible I need to see the height as well, side way view.

Thank you in advance for your time and effort. And I do hope this comparison may help some users here to choose as well, switch from Logitech to Steelseries.

Which is why it is so unfortunate that I'm not in West Malaysia , Kuching here is well, not many shop has demo unit, only the cheapo Gigabyte mice
I know that I have to hands on to be able to feels it, but that's how I bought my MX518 as well, just ask my friend to grab it from Lowyat back then because Kuching still does not have such mouse available (HOLY SHYT? you guess that right... )

Yeah, Weilung has it I think, but of course no demo unit which I can feel the whole thing myself.
Looking forward upcoming ICT fair at May, maybe can find demo unit, but mostly only the Logitech.
Not many people want to demo such niche (in Kuching) product.

Do you claw grip or tip grip? I do suppose when I do FPS and tip grip on rare occasion where small movement is needed.
As for weight, I open up my MX518 and added some big head screws to increase its weight (LOL), so Rival may fits my weight preferences.
I did notice the back (or butt?) logo can be taken off? Is it for weight distribution or just fancy cap?

Edit: Ok, it's just a fancy replaceable cap.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Apr 16 2014, 02:05 PM

How I wish the switch is uses the Cherry MX switches methology... well just in my dreams, anyway I think the older mouse has better copper plating inside the switches, I did the switch fix DIY myself once for my MX518 and still intensively smashing it for my casual gaming, works fine now but planning on replacement (a decade old... time to retire liao la..).
Anyway about your mouse, you can try the DIY if no more warranty, but if handling tiny things is not your cup of tea then it's not advised, cause those Logitech M100R did have this kind of problem and I tried to repair it the same way, and the copper just broke on me...
So I do hope Steelseries has way better copper inside that switch, something that can last me like I do for my MX518, planning for Rival, now just need to compare the fattiness so I can comfortably replace my oldie partner.

Just notice that I'm claw grip while gaming, tip grip when uses photo editing program...

Oh shrug, looks like the paint will wear off much easier than expected, my MX518 side paint become sticky after 1~2 years of use, then I just scrap it off using sand paper and just spray with normal matte paint, not very fancy job but at least does not feels so plasticky without the coating.
Will think another time about buying those mice...
Most mice nowadays also uses matte coating on the top and side, Rival seems to use rubber grip, a nice touch, but wonder if that's just coating or real rubber piece that won't get sticky after pro-long usage.

Researching mode ON.

Add: Just did a Google and found even Sensei which cost much higher also has such issue of paint wearing off...
Well, this link belong to Steelseries forum and at the bottom is one of the support reply, 1-on-1 exchange if paint wear off... what if wear off again after the warranty end...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1329515/any-rep...sei-wearing-out

Add 2: Rival paint wearing off, oh gosh 1 month only...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1469867/steelse...0#post_21856041

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Apr 16 2014, 11:39 PM

As you can see at the left and right finger click area where it gets shines, that's where the paint wear off, now we can confirm that Steelseries does not goes too well with their paint job (Just like cheap ABS keycaps ya know), although there's no report of faulty clicks or other build quality so far.
If it's only the paint issue I can still live with it, just the back of the mice where the logo shines wear out is kind of disappointing though, need Steelseries to gets their quality up with the paint, especially the matte.

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Apr 17 2014, 07:39 AM

Oh... so it's not the paint wear off?
But I have found 2nd link, refer my top post that many reported the paint wearing off here and there after few months...
Got excited to get the mice but end up with not-so-good result after researching...
but the thing is the that ergo shape is so darn tempting...

Oh hail goodness~~
Yeah, almost as I imagined it would be from many picture source and also the measurement of G400s that I found on one website (forgotten that link).
The height is tad few mm different for most of the part, except rival is longer, slimmer (width shorter), and to my surprise, G400s is actually higher (height).
Rival however has the "butt" bump at further back, making it contact with palm more than G400s, feelings will be much different in this case.

Thank you again for your effort, going for Rival... probably in June (PIKOM), stupid Kuching ICT fair got postponed... AGAIN!!!
Hopefully can feel the actual mice in my palm at the fair.

Yeah, you're probably right about that, been a bit faint hearted after seeing the big brother Sensei having such an issue.
I should have faith at Steelseries ($.$;;)

Oh really, erm....
Lets see how much I can get from local....

You can try to set the button 6 & 7 in game's key settings to see if it working without the Steelseries Engine.

Wow one very sexy mouse indeed, not too fond of Dota game but that mouse really tempting.. hehe

Does your phone prompt USB audio when you plug in your headset?
If your phone has originally started with Android 4, it should have, but there're also some early model does not support external USB audio, that's hardware limitation rather than the OS itself.
Also, not all USB audio is supported due to the power of the USB output to power both the DAC and the AMP unit of your headset.

Rival also rubber side right?
Not sure how to maintain rubber, it's pain to make sure it does not become sticky.
Air-cond room is one way but my room isn't air-conditioned...

p/s: Sorry didn't make it up for Rival even though I look forward for it, Logitech G502 make sure me didn't do so...

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Sep 30 2014, 01:14 PM