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 new car not equiped with autolock feature?, was told by car sales person

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post Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jinster @ Jul 29 2013, 09:53 AM)
is it so difficult to move the now "smooth touch" of a locking switch which is within reaching distance at the doors?
older cars door locking mechanism was push and pull at the end part of the door..
now most cars is having it near the door opening lever which is within reaching distance
just because some smart guy or girl created the "auto lock/auto speed sensing lock/etc etc" thingy to make it "easier or convenient" for us doesn't mean every car should have it unless the manufacturer wants it to be incorporated in their cars, don't be lazy, just move a bit to lock or unlock the car doors...
anyhow it depends on humans...other people in other countries wouldnt really bother about having this auto lock thingy, they are more concern with fuel economy and eco-friendly vehicles.....it's a matter of being discipline to either flip the door lock...
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To lock the car as soon as you enter the car should be cultivated by all drivers, especially the ladies. With kidnapping, robberies and snatch thieves so rampant in Malaysian car parks and at traffic light, locking the doors is a must! I always lock the car door as soon as I enter my car, even my car has speed sensing auto lock feature. Bad guys can get into your car even before you start the car !

But HAVING auto lock will be an ADDED security to help make sure you don't forget (people do forget once in a while, especially when age is catching up). Double security is what I am after (triple if I can). Never leave anything to chances if one can plan, take measures and minimize mishap from happening.

Another possible scenario is you remember to lock the car door as soon as you enter your car as always and drive off. Then you have to stop the car to pick up some passenger(s), door unlock, passenger(s) got in and you drive off again, forgetting to lock the car this time and at a traffic light you become the victim of a snatch and run motorbike robbery.

Or another member of your family who seldom drives, one day he/she needs to do some chores and drives your car which has NO auto lock feature, and he/she will be exposed to the dangers looming on the streets/in the car parks. I think no one would want to see anything untoward happen to their love ones. sweat.gif

In the last two or three years, there have been a lot more car hijacks/kidnapping/traffic light snatch robberies in Malaysia, could it because the auto door lock feature has been taken out as standard feature ? And the bad guys are taking advantage of this !! hmm.gif hmm.gif

Auto lock is not an expensive fixture, much much cheaper than the useless sunroof, body kit, 17/18" rims, BUT much much more IMPORTANT to every occupant/driver of a vehicle, in my opinion. whistling.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Jul 29 2013, 12:33 PM)
The removal of autolock was done around Sept 2012. Previously autolock was installed on many cars.
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Then how come my son's Mazda3 year 2011 is without auto lock ? rclxub.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 12:45 PM

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Could it be the law was officially implemented in Sept1012, but directive to take out auto lock was given much earlier. Car manufacturers/distributors are only too happy to oblige to take out the feature as it saves cost, which means more profit. See how they drag their feet and give all sort of excuses and apply for exemption when asked to comply with the minimum airbags/ESP requirements.
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post Jul 29 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jinster @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 PM)
mazda cars originally don't have auto lock in the first place..

auto lock got pros and cons..
it's good when it's good.. (safety purposes)
it's bad when it's bad.. (accident cannot unlock, a child was left behind in the car; cannot open due to autolock - i know a 5 year old may be able to open back but what if it's a baby)

if ur car got no autolock, be responsible and remember to use it manually..
if ur car has autolock, be responsible and well aware of it when it is in operation
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If you MANUALLY locked the door, rescuers also CANNOT open the door from outside in an accident. Usually when a car has speed sensing auto lock, it will has auto UNLOCK during an accident (either activated by impact sensor or when airbags being deployed, some says when engine stopped)

One should not leave one's child ALONE in the car in the first place. Furthermore no parent should leave a child in an UNLOCK car and go off to do his/her chores, the child may be kidnapped. The auto lock feature I am referring to is the speed sensing type, not the elapsed time like some car models which automatically lock all door if left unattended(even with the keys in the ignition!), I got caught once with my company's car at a petrol station during refueling. Real embarrassing doh.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 01:23 PM

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From the manufacturers/distributors of cars standpoint, most of them would rather NOT take the risk of being sued by providing auto lock feature which the legislative has issued a directive not to be installed. Unless they can at the same installed auto UNLOCK during an accident. But they are still subjected to legal suits in the event the auto UNLOCK feature failed in an accident.

Sad, because it's a lose-lose situation. Consumers lost (less protection), manufacturers lost (risk of being sued) sad.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jul 29 2013, 01:19 PM)
If you MANUALLY locked the door, rescuers also CANNOT open the door from outside in an accident.

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i think they should ban car door lock. Problem solved.
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PERFECT SOLUTION: Lower Cost and better rescue Efficiency.

As old Chinese saying: Don't eat then you won't burp loh ! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 01:43 PM

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Think I am going to skip my lunch, going to save me money and time, won't burp and lose weight. All the benefits !

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post Jul 29 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 29 2013, 12:54 PM)
I don't think it saves them cost. Look at the Forbes article + video I've posted recently about hacking a car. With access to the onboard computer you can do pretty much everything, including pulling on the seatbelt, fully pressing the clutch, deactivating or activating the brakes, jerk around the steering wheel, change the speedometer or any other display... Auto lock is just an easy software feature. Auto unlock should be very easy too, so it is probably what jolokia said, they want to avoid being sued.
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No worry for me. Nobody will be interested in hacking my cars. Not enough enemies, not enough assets to be hijacked/kidnapped or murdered by wife/children for inheritance. whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Jul 29 2013, 02:59 PM)
Also for in the event you find yourself kidnapped in your own car.
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Auto lock feature DOES NOT PREVENT occupants inside the car from unlocking the door (unless malfunction like katijar's story above). It only prevent intruder from opening the door from outside the car. So if you in the event were kidnapped and left inside your own car, you still can escape by just opening the door, provided you were not tied up like a rice dumpling (ketupat).

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post Jul 29 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jul 29 2013, 02:29 PM)
auto unlock failed...

A 55-year-old businessman from Rohini was charred to death in the old Dwarka underpass near IGI Airport after his car allegedly caught fire. The victim, Pawan Gupta, could not come out of the car due to technical failure. Gupta was going towards his residence in the wee hours of Sunday when his WagonR car caught fire, police said. The police are yet to ascertain the  reason behind the incident.
The doors of the car were locked due to some technical problem and Gupta couldn’t come out of the vehicle in time. Police broke the glass of his car to take out his body.
“Forensic experts are carrying out investigation to find out the actual cause of fire,” said a police official and added it is suspected that a technical problem in the AC or a spark in the car might have led to the fire.
“We came to know about the incident around noon after the police informed my uncle, as the car was registered in his name. We are awaiting the post-mortem report,” said Ankush, Gupta’s son.
Gupta, a marble trader, owned a factory in Mangolpuri. He was returning to his residence from the airport, where he had gone to receive his friend’s son, who was coming from Germany.  “But Gupta did not meet his friend’s son and was returning alone when the accident took place,” police said.
Police statistics showed that fire incidents inside cars are triggered by fuel leak in the engine bay, coupled with short-circuit. Sometimes a crack near the engine or battery of the car may cause fire.
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May be the fire or electronic short circuit made the auto UNLOCK function failed (whether the car had auto LOCK feature-unknown).

Motto of the day, leave your car door unlock at all time to prevent locking yourselves inside the car when "shit things" happened. Or lock your car at all times to prevent "shit things" from happening. May be an actuary will be able to calculate the odds.

Your own safety, your own decision. No one should decide for you.



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post Jul 29 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 29 2013, 02:12 PM)
Aiyoyo !  rclxub.gif  Already said the door will automatically unlock when the car meet accident, installing autolock "may" disable this features.

Just use finger powered automatically lock your door once you in the car lah ! Can Exercise your finger, improve your memory & Go Green  laugh.gif
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Are all the new cars sold in Malaysia nowadays come with AUTO UNLOCK safety feature in an accident, including Kancil, Vva, Proton Saga etc ? Can someone please enlighten all the forumers. Thank you. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 29 2013, 04:24 PM)
I suppose this ban on auto locking is coming from Europe, where the risk of being hijacked is lower.
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I remember I read somewhere in the Focus forum in US while searching to find out why Ford Focus in Malaysia do not have speed sensing auto lock function(applicable to external only), the US models have the option for user to program whether to activate the auto lock feature or turn it off.

Your safety, you decide motto.

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post Jul 29 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 29 2013, 04:48 PM)
Haha that what I do in those day when I drive Iswara, so used to it that I am doing the same thing when I change car, only to find out new car doesn't have knob there. Lol....
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Same here. In those days, it is called elbow-matic door lock ! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif whistling.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 29 2013, 04:52 PM)
So all the argument here doesn't apply to me, because it doesnt actually affect me laugh.gif
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It doesn't affect you because the bad guys dare not rob you, you look BADDER than them(calf size forearm with tattoos all over resting on the door sills), I guess. sweat.gif

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post Jul 29 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 29 2013, 05:00 PM)
I dont keep my valuables in plain sight sleep.gif
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Sometimes even if you keep your valuables like handbag/money bag out of sight, the experienced assailants will still be able to spot them by stalking you before the robbery. The girl friend of a friend was robbed at a traffic light, the robbers just opened the passenger door and grabbed her handbag she kept under the passenger seat and sped off.

 

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