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 new car not equiped with autolock feature?, was told by car sales person

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post Jul 25 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 25 2013, 03:39 PM)
yes, is our Malaysia regulation.
To prevent you locked inside your car in accident event in this most safest country!
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Not malaysia dey, it global standard.

So those new car has to comply ECE standard, since they lacking BCM to sense impact to unlock the door.

Proton Preve have autolock and impact sensing auto unlock. nod.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(tonitoni @ Jul 25 2013, 04:07 PM)
which model of proton? hmm.gif
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Any proton model that have Body Control Module (BCM) such as exora and preve
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:16 PM

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its easy to install autolock outside if doesnt comes as stended ...btw accident lock or no lock does make differences ??
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:23 PM

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Eh, who say new car dont have autolock? VW got.. But then if crash it will auto unlock
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:28 PM

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Test driven Mazda 6 2.5 the other day and it doesn't have autolock (be it speed sensing or brake pressing) doh.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 25 2013, 06:04 PM)
this bomba is stupid but who go and listen to them? the JPJ also equally stupid.

Already said car accident..of cause hard to open. Even when without lock it will be hard to open. Does that means we need to leave our doors unlock even when we are driving? We can still manually lock them and what difference does it make? Why these people so stupid? So with this autolock removed, bomba is pushing the problems to police. Now..police will have problems with increased car related robberies and theft. Push the problems to who?
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this is a worldwide thing not only in malaysia...who got time to open your door take your bag and leave when smashing the window is a faster way? what a dumbass
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Jul 25 2013, 07:16 PM)
its easy to install autolock outside if doesnt comes as stended ...btw accident lock or no lock does make differences ??
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It makes a difference. Modern cars are designed in a way that you should be able to open the doors without much force. That AFAIK goes into the NCAP ratings.

You can only have that feature if the car unlocks itself. And IMHO that makes sense.

To be honest I don't understand what the problem is. When the airbags are deployed send a signal to the central locking to open the doors. Deployed airbags are a clear signal that there was an accident.
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:40 PM

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The whole point of banning autolock in non-BCM cars is rendered moot the moment the driver enters the car and manually locks the door.

Does the regulating bodies think that all the owners will never lock their doors if it was not done automatically?

It's like if a victim dies due to rescuers were unable to unlock his car, those organizations and carmakers can go

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post Jul 25 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 25 2013, 06:36 PM)
Not malaysia dey, it global standard.

So those new car  has to comply ECE standard, since they lacking BCM to sense impact to unlock the door.

Proton Preve have autolock and impact sensing auto unlock.  nod.gif
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i know its global standard, but does it suit to our country?
we all know that all people will manual lock the car when your car dont come with auto lock right?

there are a lot of global standard, like 4 or 6 airbags in any car, this should be a better regulation to implement here instead of disable auto lock...
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post Jul 25 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 25 2013, 09:41 PM)
i know its global standard, but does it suit to our country?
we all know that all people will manual lock the car when your car dont come with auto lock right?

there are a lot of global standard, like 4 or 6 airbags in any car, this should be a better regulation to implement here instead of disable auto lock...
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JPJ might pick several regulation from UNECE which can be implemented. If JPJ do not enforce it, car manufacturer does not even have to follow it.

For example the UN R94 and R95 for frontal collision is one of JPJ regulation but not enforce due to car manufacturer not ready to do it. If it is enforce, most import cars here are not comply to this regulation to begin with.
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:31 AM

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All the new cars which started manufactured in2009 onwards, all the cars will not have the auto lock features, even local distributor want to add-on on their own also is almost impossible due to newer car rely too much on the ECU even the brake light, front light.... is connected to the ECU OBD2, and this is also the reason newer car no longer can simply modify the auto lock into the car, like those Pronton Waja, Myvi....., the only way is buy the OBD2 speed sensing auto lock which is connect to the OBD2 socket, inside lowyat forum also got people selling.
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post Jul 26 2013, 01:35 AM

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autolock or not doesnt affect me much, cuz i got always lock the doors immediately after entering the car.....takut kena rob =.=
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Jul 25 2013, 06:41 PM)
Any proton model that have Body Control Module (BCM) such as exora and preve
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 25 2013, 06:25 PM)
Think logically, if u manually lock the door, it would actomatically unlock when u meet accident, mind u if it ever occur that might just save ur live (as every second count during emergency) just practice to lock the door after u get into the car like how u fastern seat belt, no fruss.

Police & Bomba r just giving a safety advise, Cursing Bomba or Police doesn't help isn't it ? rolleyes.gif
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really?
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post Jul 26 2013, 07:00 AM

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woah such regulations, malaysia would be quick to adopt.. because it cut costs for manufacturers. ESP / 6 airbag standard dont want to adopt , cost problem bla bla

exactly like banning plastic bags but not providing paper bags.. malaysian consumers always at a loss
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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jul 26 2013, 06:53 AM)
really?
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Yes for most modern car.

Jurassic P1 not sure. :-)
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jul 26 2013, 07:00 AM)
woah such regulations, malaysia would be quick to adopt.. because it cut costs for manufacturers. ESP / 6 airbag standard dont want to adopt , cost problem bla bla

exactly like banning plastic bags but not providing paper bags.. malaysian consumers always at a loss
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There r plenty of car with 6 airbags & ESP, u just need to 'pay' for it, it's a case of demand & supply, when consumer willing to pay for it, supplier will supplies accordingly.

U suppose to use recycle bag or basket, if cutting plastic bag then chop more trees to made paper bags, what's the point ? We r talking about taking care of the environment here.
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post Jul 26 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 26 2013, 09:57 AM)
Yes for most modern car.

Jurassic P1 not sure. :-)
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For P1 only Preve and Exora.

QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 26 2013, 10:12 AM)
There r plenty of car with 6 airbags & ESP, u just need to 'pay' for it, it's a case of demand & supply, when consumer willing to pay for it, supplier will supplies accordingly.
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Not really, look at Vios vs Fiesta Sedan. Almost the same price, but worlds apart in terms of safety equipment. If the consumers tell Toyota they want 6 airbags and ESP, Toyota will prolly answer "CAN! pay RM20k more."
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 25 2013, 06:25 PM)
Think logically, if u manually lock the door, it would actomatically unlock when u meet accident, mind u if it ever occur that might just save ur live (as every second count during emergency) just practice to lock the door after u get into the car like how u fastern seat belt, no fruss.

Police & Bomba r just giving a safety advise, Cursing Bomba or Police doesn't help isn't it ? rolleyes.gif
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agree, 1st world problem. no auto-lock? lock it yourself lar. what so hard? i dont see ppl complain in the 80s on car without alarm or central locking? doh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 26 2013, 10:57 AM)
For P1 only Preve and Exora.
Not really, look at Vios vs Fiesta Sedan. Almost the same price, but worlds apart in terms of safety equipment. If the consumers tell Toyota they want 6 airbags and ESP, Toyota will prolly answer "CAN! pay RM20k more."
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that is why, u can have the choice not to buy that crappy vios. plenty of choices out there. you know Vios is a money sucking model. why still buy? doh.gif
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QUOTE(phantom9955 @ Jul 25 2013, 03:35 PM)
Hi expert, is it true that nowadays new car are not equiped with autolock feature (car lock when step on brake pedal)? was told by car sales person that this is safety regulation.
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car lock when pressed on pedal is kinda cheap lock which those local cars install at shop acc last time.
auto locked when reached 20km/h is better.

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