Its more money for astro but worthless to TM customers cos its only selected matches,and it is an insult to the so called content sharing!TM might as well forget the idea

Ok, hi guys, before I do anything stupid and start burning Astro's CS with their 'fixed scripts', I'd like to know if anyone has/have/had encountered this issue.

My issue : Copy Protection Failed, henceforth known as CPF
Connection Pathway : Astro B.Yond > AVR* > TV**, all via HDMI

So technically, if I watch anything HD related content, I'll get the CPF screen after 10 seconds, but I still have audio in the background.
If I direct conntect the Astro STB to the TV, everything works fine. So, what sort of fault do I have with my system?
The reason why I route it to my AVR* is that I can fully utilize the 5.1 surround sound from the HBOHD or Fox Premium channels, or lets say if there's football or F1 live, I could view it from my Home Projector (From AVR to the Home Projector). Now I'm going to have this issue stuck in my head with this damn CPF thingy.... Any ideas how to solve it?




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*Onkyo TR-809 AVR
** LG 65" LED 3D TV, 65LW6500 (I think)

1. Press Home for Menu. Select Settings and press OK
2. Select System Versions and press OK
3. If your Astro B.yond is not updated with the latest Software Version, please proceed to reboot the box followed by turning off your TV. It will go to auto update in 1 minute.
4. Ensure that TV is using only 1 HDMI cable (No AV or component cable are connecting together) and tune to correct HDMI channel.
*Example: HDMI1*
5. Please re-secure the HDMI connection between Astro B.yond box & TV HDMI port by plugging out & plugging in connection at both ends.
6. If problem still persist please swap using another HDMI port on TV, tune the TV channel.
*Example: HDMI2*
7. If you have own HDMI cable, please try to swap Astro HDMI cable with own HDMI cable. If “Copy Protection Failed” message disappear, try again with Astro HDMI cable.
8. If customer is using HD Ready TV, please change the HD setting to 720P (Home > Settings > Installation Settings > HD Settings)
9. Please switch off the TV and Decoder together and Turn it on again in few seconds for hand shaking to take place.


From ass FB hope it helps Maybe a handshake issue.

This post has been edited by smileguy: Jul 28 2013, 06:36 PM

Thanks for your help, but it take it that you didn't read my post clearly....

why not use HDMI ARC?
your amplifier dont have HDCP stripper(99% sure)
or it is broken.

For some reason, I dunno how does my ARC functions, I can never manage to get it to work, i'll ask the Onkyo forum or something.. but for now I use my AVR so i can have the option to watch it on my projector too..

Anyway, what do you mean by HDCP stripper? Or how do i check?Thanks

first let me explain what HDCP is lah.
HDCP is something that locks HD content.
simple enough
and because there is nothing to unlock it (HDCP Stripper)
u will see Copy Protection failed
When you plug into your tv it will show hd content because your tv have built in HDCP stripper.
you may ask why your tv cannot strip it when connected to avr , because your amp just output its raw signal without the hdcp "code"was not sent to your tv.(not a very good explanation .)
Option 1: live without hd channels
option 2:hdmi arc setup(if your tv supports only)
option 3:digital coaxial cable to your avr(if your tv doesnt support ARC)
option 4:assteruk beyond to hdcp stripper to hdmi splitter which outputs to the tv and avr)
option 5:optical cable from yr tv to avr(might not support dts and dolby digital from yr BD Player or Assteruk Byond)
for me because i do not have a HD Avr im using option 3 for bd player and assteruk byond pvr ,option 5 for tv

Seriously? Many of you all having bad experience without going through Astro?

i thought so because before that everything was ok...it started like 1 months ago that i keep on getting this weird recording...nevermind...i already formatted...wife and kids even mad because they have their running man show got deleted hehe....


well i did lodge a report with astro and they do wanna send their technician but decide to hold it first...if this exist maybe i will change to latest decoder...

btw how much it cost to change the pvr? becoz my PVR already 1 year plus so i think theres no mo warranty....

Yeah I roughly understand what you're trying to tell me. So if I know my TV has this HDCP thingy as it works perfect when I plug my Astro direct to my TV... but I believe my Onkyo TR-809 should also have the HDCP stripper, according to it's User Manual.


you may ask why your tv cannot strip it when connected to avr , because your amp just output its raw signal without the hdcp "code"was not sent to your tv.(not a very good explanation .)
>>Not very good explanation, I must agree LOL, but I still could comprehend what you're trying to say. Probably I've set everything on the AVR to Auto output, thus sending the "wrong-ish" signal out to my TV?

Option1: NOH, I love watching and producing HD content
Option2: both my Amp and TV supports ARC, but I've NO idea (till this date) how to set it up properly, unless ARC only works if my input source on my tv is via HDMI? (idk i know nothing lol)
Option4: What kinds of HDCP stripper are there out there? I know nothing, but It's interesting as I could use this option if all else fails.
Option5-6-7-8:. hahaha well, I do have Tos-Link too.. but the main reason why i wanna plug to my AVR is so that i can use it to decode the 5.1 surroound, and also use it as my main splitter to my overhead projector....

heard rumor that ASTRO and TM in discussion to share content for match played by top 4 runner of the league~~ source from TM people, not sure true or not.

beyond decoders are under astro so lifetime warranty.
swapping to samsung cost 50 for installation

did your amp work with hd channels before?if it did , i think the HDCP stripper broke .or u can play around the settings.
i do not recommend using option 4 because it will be messy like crap.
just call the person where you bought the avr from

I didn't get your first question just now... what you mean "did my Amp work with hd channels before?...... the only thing i use on it is my MediaHDD player to play HD movies...then just when i got astro Byond installed, i tried to hook it up to my amp, it worked for only 10 seconds before the Copy Protection Failed thingy pops up... "HDCP stripper broke?"... I could try playing with the settings.. i hope nothing serious or it's just a small issue?.

If i call/contact the shop/guy where i got my AVR from, what sort of questions should I be directing towards them?

i bet you're using the media player to play play pirated movies right.Pirated movies(obvsly not hd)aren't HDCP protected.
But your Assteruk Byond content is. so what i suspect your AVR does not have HDCP stripper
Did it CLEARLY states that it does?

ARC is quite simple to setup actually, but also depends on your TV and AVR supports it or not

If both supports, try this setup: (HDMI 1 is H1, HDMI2 is H2, and so on)

1. Find out which HDMI port on your TV has the ARC, usually it will be labeled there
2. Assume H2 is the ARC port
3. Connect your Astro to H1 (non ARC)
4. Connect your AVR's out to H2 (ARC port)
5. Switch on both, now you should be able to get the Astro audio from your AVR

lol...rm50 for installation? i thought they just swapped regardless of brand of pvr...do i have an toption to choose which decoder i want or they simply change based on their stock...and i need to change new sim card right?

anyway thanks for the head up....

finally, someone who has the same problem like mine..

bro, i faced similar issues 2mths back..

1. suddenly the PVR recorded unintended shows (mine was Tarzan).
2. PVR starts to slow down, changing channels took almost 3-4mins before the channel changes.
3. Cannot record shows (randomly showing 'recording failed').

so i changed mine, also same like yours, since >1yr, i do not have warranty already
but they change for free. the only thing is that, all your recorded stuffs are now gone with the old PVR.

and after 2mths using this new PVR.. now it happens again..
the new PVR starts to record unintended shows, even to the extent that
the red LED 'record' is on, but no new recording entry..

Apparently a lot of PVR user are having this ' phantom recording' issues.

for HDMI Stripper, I've bought the following item... but it's not here yet... so I cannot tell you if it is working or not...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300938129341

there are many China made HDMI splitter which strips HDCP signal so you probably can look around at aliexpress.com so it all depends on your luck to get HDMI splitter with HDCP stripped on output signal...

Want a high quality HDCP stripper?

HDFury 4 (Google) is a good one with hacked software... but prepare to spend RM1500 for it

You can use this as reference as well:

https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/ho...d_here_127.html