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post Jul 22 2013, 08:32 PM, updated 7y ago

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O'Harry's grandson's english is powderful. Sexy Queen's english. But then again, All I could hear is like a bunch of gibberish language biggrin.gif

inb4 No to Lee Dynasty.


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post Jul 22 2013, 08:33 PM

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the way he moves his hands................ shakehead.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:34 PM

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Khairy is better
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:35 PM

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why does he sounds like Mr BEAN talking?? tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:35 PM

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lol so force the accent...
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:36 PM

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Boleh tahan only la .
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Shinobi-X @ Jul 22 2013, 08:35 PM)
why does he sounds like Mr BEAN talking??  tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:37 PM

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pity his accent
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:38 PM

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what about Li haoyi?
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:39 PM

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not sure about Singapore...

but 1Malaysians generally despise ppl with an accent, particular foreign angmo accent. So how?? tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:39 PM

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Is he speaking sentences or just one word?
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:40 PM

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near-li speaking lagi gooding
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Shinobi-X @ Jul 22 2013, 08:35 PM)
why does he sounds like Mr BEAN talking??  tongue.gif
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sure or not??

Mr bean is more classy!!

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post Jul 22 2013, 08:42 PM

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he sounds ghey... no rike
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:43 PM

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mcm pandan...
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:43 PM

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he talk like he is going to pee
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:43 PM

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what the f is he talking about
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:44 PM

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at least najib son know how speak chinese
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:44 PM

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post Jul 22 2013, 08:44 PM

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whats the point of talking so fast if ppl cant understand you lolx
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:45 PM

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obviously the crowd understand...lol
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:48 PM

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still sound like apek... i can do better
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:48 PM

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meh..i have a distant mixed-blood cousin..her england more powderful... her Queen's English is so posh my Angmoh bro-in-law also paiseh and said her england make him feel not English enuff lolz
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:50 PM

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Are you sure it's the London Posh accent? Cuz he just pronounced the "R" in the War.
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post Jul 22 2013, 08:54 PM

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post Jul 22 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(leonhang @ Jul 22 2013, 08:50 PM)
Are you sure it's the London Posh accent? Cuz he just pronounced the "R" in the War.
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He's trying his best but yeah, there are some *leakages* here and there.

But it's ok lah for someone with a Singaporean nationality. After all, unless you're from anglophone countries, your English should be a mix between the Brits and the Americans.. tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:02 PM

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Bruce Lee also banana.
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:07 PM

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so this is the boy with impulse control disorder?
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:20 PM

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nothing personal but this guy is quite annoying

maybe "Queen's English" is appropriate since that may refer to colonised Chinese peoples' educated English

but he would possibly be less annoying if he had a good British accent

QUOTE(highlowyat @ Jul 22 2013, 08:34 PM)
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 22 2013, 08:48 PM)
meh..i have a distant mixed-blood cousin..her england more powderful... her Queen's English is so posh my Angmoh bro-in-law also paiseh and said her england make him feel not English enuff lolz
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why 混血 so imba why
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:25 PM

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This host also got good english wat ......... tongue.gif




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post Jul 22 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 22 2013, 09:20 PM)
nothing personal but this guy is quite annoying

maybe "Queen's English" is appropriate since that may refer to colonised Chinese peoples' educated English

but he would possibly be less annoying if he had a good British accent
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lol u know what is Queen's English or not
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 22 2013, 09:20 PM)
maybe "Queen's English" is appropriate since that may refer to colonised Chinese peoples' educated English

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what queen's english?? Queen never speaks that fast, and her pronunciation is much clearer!! tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:26 PM)
lol u know what is Queen's English or not
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oops i was thinking about the queen's chinese

yeah this dude def has Wong's English
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jul 22 2013, 09:25 PM)
This host also got good english wat ......... tongue.gif

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he is after all BB See
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post Jul 22 2013, 09:31 PM

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drill of mr.Lee grand daugther?

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post Jul 22 2013, 10:48 PM

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errrrr Khairy is better
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post Jul 22 2013, 10:52 PM

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still got the chinese slang
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post Jul 22 2013, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Jul 22 2013, 09:54 PM)
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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Jul 22 2013, 08:32 PM)
O'Harry's grandson's english is powderful. Sexy Queen's english. But then again, All I could hear is like a bunch of gibberish language biggrin.gif

inb4 No to Lee Dynasty.


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i can actually understand. In fact, try watching other debate videos of his. Very impressive. He was also a top debater, ranked 1st or 2nd that year in world's ranking so u ktards dont play play
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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Jul 22 2013, 08:32 PM)
O'Harry's grandson's english is powderful. Sexy Queen's english. But then again, All I could hear is like a bunch of gibberish language biggrin.gif

inb4 No to Lee Dynasty.


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OMG!!!! Having the greatest Grandfather, sure he must more powerful than his father. If not how a tiny SINGAPORE can be a developed country with no resources at all but MALAYsia have all the resources but actually a third world mentality with first class infrastructure.

His English is just SPLENDID!!!!!!
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:02 PM

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U all r plain butthurt. I challenge u all to post up ur video n let everyone judges how good u are
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Jul 22 2013, 08:34 PM)
Khairy is better
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QUOTE(maximR @ Jul 22 2013, 08:36 PM)
Boleh tahan only la .
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what the f is he talking about
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whats the point of talking so fast if ppl cant understand you lolx
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QUOTE(klein @ Jul 22 2013, 10:58 PM)
i can actually understand. In fact, try watching other debate videos of his. Very impressive. He was also a top debater, ranked 1st or 2nd that year in world's ranking so u ktards dont play play
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lol, so many butthurters. pls lar. read klein's post. Top debater in the world. Compare to Najib like a peanut inside the butter!!! doh.gif khairy i worry top 100 in the world also cannot. to p 500 also cannot lar. wtf.
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still sound chinese..
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He dared to speak in front bunch of audiences, debated against angmohs and defeated those angmohs to be ranked 1st or 2nd best speaker in the world, so far not many asians had gone that far
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:06 PM

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is he talking to brits or singaporeans?
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QUOTE(vandar59 @ Jul 22 2013, 11:06 PM)
is he talking to brits or singaporeans?
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he was in a world's debate tournament grand finals, talking to audiences coming all over the world and he was the only asian representative..
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I cant catch what he is speaking... Damn i suck
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bak sini video khairy debating, nak compare boleh ?
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I have no problem with understanding what he is talking about.
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speak in whatever accent u want, just make sure people understand it.

why u all so sibuk about accent cb
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i like the way he speak. but i hate his hand and body gestures.
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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Jul 22 2013, 11:14 PM)
I have no problem with understanding what he is talking about.
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I am not sure why you can't understand him? I don't mean to demean any one here, but again, it could be your level of English isn't up to certain level. I am not here to speak down on your guys, If you feel offended, I am sorry, but I think I see similarity to among some of the SG students when I was studying in UK. My English iosn't very good too but well aware that I should speak in proper simple sentence.

Perhaps, He is too "deep" in his word? I can understand what he is saying except for those "chim" words he used in between. Off course, he carries an accent. Don't blame him if he has been living there for some years. I once spoke with some accent too after been in UK for 2 years. I know because people looked at me when I spoke after returning. I didn't notice it until my daughter told me so. Of course, now the accent all gone. I doubt he will come back to SG to serves. Even former PM Goh's kids aren't really interested in work back in SG as reported in the press.

Top students in UK too....
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QUOTE(klein @ Jul 22 2013, 11:02 PM)
U all r plain butthurt. I challenge u all to post up ur video n let everyone judges how good u are
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QUOTE(XtraSpicy @ Jul 22 2013, 11:09 PM)
I cant catch what he is speaking... Damn i suck
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Extremely gifted and well trained

Well, its no surprise from the grandson of Mr Lee, the man who made Singapore what it is today.

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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Jul 22 2013, 08:32 PM)
O'Harry's grandson's english is powderful. Sexy Queen's english. But then again, All I could hear is like a bunch of gibberish language biggrin.gif

inb4 No to Lee Dynasty.


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dei , go learn punctuation...
most importantly, there is comma and full stop....
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QUOTE(bbmars @ Jul 22 2013, 11:28 PM)
I am not sure why you can't understand him? I don't mean to demean any one here, but again, it could be your level of English isn't up to certain level.  I am not here to speak down on your guys, If you feel offended, I am sorry, but I think I see similarity to among some of the SG students when I was studying in UK.  My English iosn't very good too but well aware that I should speak in proper simple sentence.  

Perhaps,  He is too "deep" in his word?  I can understand what he is saying except for those "chim" words he used in between.  Off course, he carries an accent.  Don't blame him if he has been living there for some years.  I once spoke with some accent too after been in UK for 2 years. I know because people looked at me when I spoke after returning. I didn't notice it until my daughter told me so.  Of course, now the accent all gone.   I doubt he will come back to SG to serves.  Even former PM Goh's kids aren't really interested in work back in SG as reported in the press. 

Top students in UK too....
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you reading comprehension fail

I said I had no problem understanding him

teh irony

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i can catch all he say but.. ang moh people are slow hmm.gif can catch what he's speaking? they might think he's speaking mandarin
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jul 22 2013, 08:33 PM)
the way he moves his hands................ shakehead.gif
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like sg current pm habbit indeed.

grandpa said," politicians leave politics will leave troubles to descendants!" doh.gif
so forbid us to participate any politics! notworthy.gif

good family rules! history can tell those stories. so no regrets! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Jul 22 2013, 10:52 PM)
still got the chinese slang
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It's Singlish ah beng slang.

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U all r plain butthurt. I challenge u all to post up ur video n let everyone judges how good u are
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QUOTE(Imagine90 @ Jul 22 2013, 11:48 PM)
Extremely gifted and well trained

Well, its no surprise from the grandson of Mr Lee, the man who made Singapore what it is today.
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Jilat buntut grandson of LKY won't get you Singapork PR status.
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I never get bored listening to LKY speaks

his choice of words is very precise, his voice very clear

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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 23 2013, 01:36 AM)
It's Singlish ah beng slang.
Jilat buntut grandson of LKY won't get you Singapork PR status.
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recognizing that he is a good speaker isn't sucking up
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jul 23 2013, 01:40 AM)
I never get bored listening to LKY speaks

his choice of words is very precise, his voice very clear
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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Jul 23 2013, 01:51 AM)
recognizing that he is a good speaker isn't sucking up
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Are you fucukking serious that's a good speaker?



Listen to LKY or LHL speech bro icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(rendezvouss @ Jul 22 2013, 03:32 PM)
O'Harry's grandson's english is powderful. Sexy Queen's english. But then again, All I could hear is like a bunch of gibberish language biggrin.gif

inb4 No to Lee Dynasty.


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If you got to debate tournaments often, this is quite common sight. We have speakers like that back, usually from Singapore, Philippines as well as in our own backyard.

I don't claim to be as fluent as him (I get a bit nervous so I can go quite fast sometimes lacking good enunciation). But really, I'd say he sounds good but he's definitely not one in a million among Asian debaters.

Btw, his speech sounds quite clear to me. smile.gif

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 01:55 AM)
If you got to debate tournaments often, this is quite common sight. We have speakers like that back, usually from Singapore, Philippines as well as in our own backyard.

I don't claim to be as fluent as him (I get a bit nervous so I can go quite fast sometimes lacking good enunciation). But really, I'd say he sounds good but he's definitely not one in a million among Asian debaters.
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Speech isn't debate and you won't expect Obama to speak in Singlish and in hurried pace, do you laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 22 2013, 08:57 PM)
Speech isn't debate and you won't expect Obama to speak in Singlish and in hurried pace, do you  laugh.gif
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The video posted by TS was from a debate? I don't get your point.
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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 02:01 AM)
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The video posted by TS was from a debate? I don't get your point.
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A good speaker is not the same with being a good debater.


I am just refuting the fact that some pipul can equate good debater with a good speaker.
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:04 PM)
A good speaker is not the same with being a good debater.
I am just refuting the fact that some pipul can equate good debater with a good speaker.
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What the? I think you're confusing me with other posters..

i'm just replying to TS who admires his proficiency and fluency in English. To which i say, this is quite a common sight if you go to debate competitions.

I never mentioned anything about elocution and debating.
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was he trying to catch the train or something?
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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 02:07 AM)
What the? I think you're confusing me with other posters..

i'm just replying to TS who admires his proficiency and fluency in English. To which i say, this is quite a common sight if you go to debate competitions.

I never mentioned anything about elocution and debating.
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It's a possibility of the confusion but I didn't really like way a debater speaks like a rapid fire gun and bearing an annoying Singapork slang. Matter of preference, really. Let the old speak calmly with a pace and clarity. Not a hushed up youngling with young enthusiasm.


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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 22 2013, 09:16 PM)
It's a possibility of the confusion but I didn't really like way a debater speaks like a rapid fire gun and bearing an annoying Singapork slang. Matter of preference, really. Let the old speak calmly with a pace and clarity. Not a hushed up youngling with young enthusiasm.
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That depends on the context. Debaters are limited by time (7-8 minutes) and you only get 1 chance to deliver your speech. That's why most often it is jam packed with information and the speed of speech is quite fast.
It is like writing an essay vs summary. Writing a summary can be much harder if you have to keep within the constrains of the maximum word limit while trying to make sure you don't miss out on the important stuff.

If it's fine if you don't like that style of speaking, I just don't see what that has got to do between speech and elocution.

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 02:23 AM)
That depends on the context. Debaters are limited by time (7-8 minutes) and you only get 1 chance to deliver your speech. That's why most often it is jam packed with information and the speed of speech is quite fast.
It is like writing an essay vs summary. Writing a summary can be much harder if you have to keep within the constrains of the maximum word limit while trying to make sure you don't miss out on the important stuff.

If it's fine if you don't like that style of speaking, I just don't see what that has got to do between speech and elocution.
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Worse is when you meet the indian debaters (doesnt matter those from India, singapore or Malaysia). Some of them speak with really thick accent, they talk super duper fast and they have really aggressive manner.

So adjudicators and debaters in general are used to faster-than-usual speed rate due to time constraint. Actually, it doesnt matter how fast or how slow one speaks, its where we pause that matters.

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QUOTE(klein @ Jul 23 2013, 01:08 AM)
Worse is when you meet the indian debaters (doesnt matter those from India, singapore or Malaysia). Some of them speak with really thick accent, they talk super duper fast and they have really aggressive manner.

So adjudicators and debaters in general are used to faster-than-usual speed rate due to time constraint. Actually, it doesnt matter how fast or how slow one speaks, its where we pause that matters.
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I beg to disagree. Most Indians from Malaysia and Singapore that I've seen in debating, has decent to good English. With accents that we're quite accustomed to.

The ones from India are usually the ones with thick accents. Thing is, a lot of indian debaters from Singapore teams (e.g. NUS, NTU etc) are actually from India and not local, thus they have the thick accent. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 23 2013, 01:36 AM)
It's Singlish ah beng slang.
Jilat buntut grandson of LKY won't get you Singapork PR status.
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not sure u useless is a tarp or real female but such attitude surely wun have good ending. Wait 20 years later and tell me the ending doh.gif
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post Jul 23 2013, 07:48 AM

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http://youtu.be/7CMdoE7BfRE



Kai's accent sounded better

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it's a freaking debate competition with time limit, they have to squeeze in as much as possible. speaking that fast is common.

banyak /k/ tak pernah tengok world-class debate
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jul 22 2013, 08:40 PM)
sure or not??

Mr bean is more classy!!

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 06:22 AM)
I beg to disagree. Most Indians from Malaysia and Singapore that I've seen in debating, has decent to good English. With accents that we're quite accustomed to.

The ones from India are usually the ones with thick accents. Thing is, a lot of indian debaters from Singapore teams (e.g. NUS, NTU etc) are actually from India and not local, thus they have the thick accent. tongue.gif
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My bad. I didnt make it clear but ya, I agree that we are quite accustomed to those Indians from Malaysia and Singapore. And I am well aware that many of those representing NUS, NTU etc are not locals, but "imported" from India. I have been to few tournaments where it was kinda ironic to watch those Indians winning the tournaments while representing NUS etc whereby their countrymen watched in silence, with no cheers.
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QUOTE(Imagine90 @ Jul 23 2013, 07:18 AM)
not sure u useless is a tarp or real female but such attitude surely wun have good ending. Wait 20 years later and tell me the ending doh.gif
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Personal attacks are just a guise of a weak person trying to make a counter reply. Try harder like DSAI when Bijan is still the legit PM, DAPfag.
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:01 PM)
Personal attacks are just a guise of a weak person trying to make a counter reply. Try harder like DSAI when Bijan is still the legit PM, DAPfag.
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not personal attack but such attitude really wun have good ending. You can dun believe fortune telling or feng sui or whatever. Just wait 20 years later and tell me back what is ur ending..
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QUOTE(Imagine90 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:25 PM)
not personal attack but such attitude really wun have good ending. You can dun believe fortune telling or feng sui or whatever. Just wait 20 years later and tell me back what is ur ending..
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Kecian believe feng sui fortune telling and such. Those are the game of the devil and no one dictates my life other than Allah S. W. T.


I got to troll other thread, kkthxbye.
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post Jul 23 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:30 PM)
Kecian believe feng sui fortune telling and such. Those are the game of the devil and no one dictates my life other than Allah S. W. T.
I got to troll other thread, kkthxbye.
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lol, rupanya malay awek that has terrible attitude huh. Bf tak feed u ke? tak drill u ke? attitude jadi macam ni. Tunggu la 20tahun kemudian tengok apa dapat dari allah beritahu i nanti yea..
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lol at kids bringing god and fengshui into a fight
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Sarimah Ibrahim's english is 9999 times better.
You ought to hear her speak..
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The privileged class. The way he speaks makes me laf. So fast and tripping over his words. They always think a fake accent is necessary when clarity and pronunciation are most important besides good grammar. A cina apek trying to sound like the Queen? LOL
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The privileged class. The way he speaks makes me laf. So fast and tripping over his words. They always think a fake accent is necessary when clarity and pronunciation are most important besides good grammar. A cina apek trying to sound like the Queen? LOL
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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Jul 22 2013, 11:14 PM)
I have no problem with understanding what he is talking about.
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KJ doesn't put on airs. He speaks clearly. This apek doesn't sound convincing bcs he sort of slurs.
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QUOTE(bbmars @ Jul 22 2013, 11:28 PM)
I am not sure why you can't understand him? I don't mean to demean any one here, but again, it could be your level of English isn't up to certain level.  I am not here to speak down on your guys, If you feel offended, I am sorry, but I think I see similarity to among some of the SG students when I was studying in UK.  [B]My English iosn't very good too but well aware that I should speak in proper simple sentence. 

Perhaps,  He is too "deep" in his word?  I can understand what he is saying except for those "chim" words he used in between.  Off course, he carries an accent.  Don't blame him if he has been living there for some years.  I once spoke with some accent too after been in UK for 2 years. I know because people looked at me when I spoke after returning. I didn't notice it until my daughter told me so.  Of course, now the accent all gone.  I doubt he will come back to SG [/B]to serves.[cool.gif  Even former PM Goh's kids aren't really interested in work back in SG as reported in the press. 

Top students in UK too....
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Glad you did look at yourself in the mirror.

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Jul 23 2013, 01:55 AM)
If you got to debate tournaments often, this is quite common sight. We have speakers like that back, usually from Singapore, Philippines as well as in our own backyard.

I don't claim to be as fluent as him (I get a bit nervous so I can go quite fast sometimes lacking good enunciation). But really, I'd say he sounds good but he's definitely not one in a million among Asian debaters.

Btw, his speech sounds quite clear to me. smile.gif
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Frankly,he sounds weak and wishy-washy to me,not firm like LKY.
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QUOTE(Love6 @ Jul 23 2013, 02:04 AM)
A good speaker is not the same with being a good debater.
I am just refuting the fact that some pipul can equate good debater with a good speaker.
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I agree. If he makes a speech speaking like this he won't impress the audience.

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Jeebus take a second to pause la.
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QUOTE(Imagine90 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:34 PM)
lol, rupanya malay awek that has terrible attitude huh. Bf tak feed u ke? tak drill u ke? attitude jadi macam ni. Tunggu la 20tahun kemudian tengok apa dapat dari allah beritahu i nanti yea..
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Hey kid,what's the matter with her attitude?


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