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> My laptop gets overheats easily.

JVector5
post Jul 21 2013, 03:30 PM


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Okay. So I have a Sony Vaio C Series for....2-3 years now.

It runs on an i5 Intel Core, with Radeon Graphics, 8GB's of Ram and 500GB's of Disc Space.

These days, the laptop gets overheated WAY too fast. For some reason, it feels like the fan is not working. I've bought so many different coolers but nothing seems to work. I plan to buy a Cooler Master U3 because the fans can be adjusted to the hotspots.

I don't have money yet though. Does anyone has an answer to why this is happening? I've already disassembled my laptop and clean the dust only to find minimal amount of dust. What should I do? Should I buy Thermal Paste? I have no clue! Please help!
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post Jul 21 2013, 06:08 PM


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repair the vent..maybe that the problems...
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post Jul 21 2013, 06:41 PM


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QUOTE(AliffHafiz @ Jul 21 2013, 06:08 PM)
repair the vent..maybe that the problems...
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What makes you think the problem is with the vent?

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post Jul 21 2013, 07:32 PM


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If cleaning the dust still won't help, you should consider to apply a new thermal paste.
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post Jul 21 2013, 08:21 PM


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just like WebDpot said..

-clean up the dust in the air vent..
-apply new thermal paste..
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post Jul 21 2013, 08:58 PM


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Hi JVector5,
Overheating problem normally comes on this circumstances,
1) Your fan is working abnormally (It could be a total stop or running at a much slow speed due to degradation)
2) Dust appear on fan and vent
3) Degradation of Thermal Paste (This is quite rare though)

Since u have said u already clean the dust and found only minimal dust. In addition, dust accumulate in laptop can be easily detect (I assume u already disassemble the laptop) I would suggest to monitor your fan speed, it more sounds like a fan malfunction issue.
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post Jul 21 2013, 09:03 PM


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did u clean the heatsink? maybe the fan is faulty?
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To find out the root cause, try applying a fresh coat of thermal paste.

If the problem persists, chances are that the fan may be faulty.
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post Jul 21 2013, 09:32 PM


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i suggest you to change inside the FAN ~

fan very cheap only ~

just go and repair it before your laptop get BOMB xD
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post Jul 21 2013, 09:42 PM


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without any concrete figures we don't know what you meant by overheating

did the laptop restart by itself? was it going >90 degrees in hwmonitor?
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post Jul 22 2013, 02:09 AM


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post the temp 1st.
>90 'c on idle is consider as hot.(to me la)
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post Jul 22 2013, 07:41 AM


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QUOTE(duncan880409 @ Jul 21 2013, 08:58 PM)
Hi JVector5,
Overheating problem normally comes on this circumstances,
1) Your fan is working abnormally (It could be a total stop or running at a much slow speed due to degradation)
2) Dust appear on fan and vent
3) Degradation of Thermal Paste (This is quite rare though)

Since u have said u already clean the dust and found only minimal dust. In addition, dust accumulate in laptop can be easily detect (I assume u already disassemble the laptop) I would suggest to monitor your fan speed, it more sounds like a fan malfunction issue.
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A fan malfunction huh? How much would it cost me to replace it?

The temperature for my laptop is as follows. Got it from SpeedFan.

HD0 : 42C
CPU : 73 C
System :68
temp 3
temp 1
tem 2: 76
Gpu : 69
Gpu : 69
Core 0 : 73

CPU FAN : 6553 RPM
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post Jul 22 2013, 12:04 PM


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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 07:41 AM)
A fan malfunction huh? How much would it cost me to replace it?

The temperature for my laptop is as follows. Got it from SpeedFan.

HD0 : 42C
CPU : 73 C
System :68
temp 3
temp 1
tem 2: 76
Gpu : 69
Gpu : 69
Core 0 : 73

CPU FAN : 6553 RPM
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you should try cleaning the rubbish that Sony put in between the proc and heatsink first and apply with something better

monitor temps again

what were the old figures like? 50 idle?

and your core i5 was it first gen or sandy B?

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post Jul 22 2013, 12:08 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 12:04 PM)
you should try cleaning the rubbish that Sony put in between the proc and heatsink first and apply with something better

monitor temps again

what were the old figures like? 50 idle?

and your core i5 was it first gen or sandy B?
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They were around 50-60 before.

What should I apply again between proc (what is proc) and heatsink? A better thermal paste?

And I know it's an i5 but Idk how to determine what gen is it.


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post Jul 22 2013, 12:12 PM


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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:08 PM)
They were around 50-60 before. 

What should I apply again between proc (what is proc) and heatsink? A better thermal paste?

And I know it's an i5 but Idk how to determine what gen is it.
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proc is processor for short

you must clean it first with 99% alcohol and cotton buds/swabs

both cpu, gpu and heatsink should be shiny again before applying some thermal paste, look for arctic silver or arctic cooling mx series, you only need to use a tiny bit (a grain of rice as a guide) on both CPU and GPU, make sure to secure the heasink tightly after that

to know what gen is your i5, control panel -> system and security -> system

look under "Processor"

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post Jul 22 2013, 12:17 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 12:12 PM)
proc is processor for short

you must clean it first with 99% alcohol and cotton buds/swabs

both cpu, gpu and heatsink should be shiny again before applying some thermal paste, look for arctic silver or arctic cooling mx series, you only need to use a tiny bit (a grain of rice as a guide) on both CPU and GPU, make sure to secure the heasink tightly after that

to know what gen is your i5, control panel -> system and security -> system

look under "Processor"
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It says " Intel ® Core ™ i5 - 2410M CPU @ 2.30 GHz 2.30 GHz

Applying thermal paste is easier said than done for me I think..
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post Jul 22 2013, 12:20 PM


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1. Your vent is dirty (Did you service or do dust removal on your notebook vent?) go send in and get it clean
2. Your fan is dirty or very slowwwwwwww get it clean or replace
3. Thermal Paste already dry and crack... re-apply it
4. Change notebook smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2013, 12:23 PM


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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:17 PM)
It says " Intel ® Core ™ i5 - 2410M CPU @ 2.30 GHz 2.30 GHz

Applying thermal paste is easier said than done for me  I think..
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you've got a sandy bridge and I have seen these can idle between 38-40+ on lenovo's

40-50 sounds about right for average, can you try another program like HWMonitor or RealTemp and read the temps again

are there vents at the bottom of the laptop? try to elevate the laptop 1-2 inches up

remove the battery and run direct from power outlet and record idle temps again

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post Jul 22 2013, 12:25 PM


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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:17 PM)
It says " Intel ® Core ™ i5 - 2410M CPU @ 2.30 GHz 2.30 GHz

Applying thermal paste is easier said than done for me  I think..
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use CPU-Z app...

standalone
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.65-en.zip

installer
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.65-setup-en.exe
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post Jul 22 2013, 12:30 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 12:23 PM)
you've got a sandy bridge and I have seen these can idle between 38-40+ on lenovo's

40-50 sounds about right for average, can you try another program like HWMonitor or RealTemp and read the temps again
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are there vents at the bottom of the laptop? try to elevate the laptop 1-2 inches up


Yes, but only HDD and RAM vents.The HDD Vent is on bottom left. Right now, my laptop is really hot and I'm at work so I didn''t bring any cooling pad.

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post Jul 22 2013, 12:45 PM


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is your fan spinning at all? put your hand near the vents and feel if there's hot air blowing out

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post Jul 22 2013, 12:49 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 12:45 PM)
is your fan spinning at all? put your hand near the vents and feel if there's hot air blowing out
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I can hear the fan . I can also feel SOME hot air. Not as hot as I thought because the keyboard and laptop feels hotter but the air isn't as hot as near the vents and stuff.


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post Jul 22 2013, 01:44 PM


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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:49 PM)
I can hear the fan . I can also feel SOME hot air. Not as hot as I thought because the keyboard and laptop feels hotter but the air isn't as hot as near the vents and stuff.
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how about the noise? at those temps it should be spinning at full speed and it should be quite LOUD
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post Jul 22 2013, 01:48 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 01:44 PM)
how about the noise? at those temps it should be spinning at full speed and it should be quite LOUD
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I've heard louder. This is quite loud. You can hear the fan spinning. Before, when I first bought it, no fan sounds.
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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 01:48 PM)
I've heard louder. This is quite loud. You can hear the fan spinning. Before, when I first bought it, no fan sounds.
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ok that's great, you don't need to replace the fan i guess

but you'd need to try some new thermal paste and check the fan and the airduct for dust clogs
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post Jul 22 2013, 02:15 PM


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 02:10 PM)
ok that's great, you don't need to replace the fan i guess

but you'd need to try some new thermal paste and check the fan and the airduct for dust clogs
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To buy some thermal paste is Rm25 for Silver Artic right? That's what I saw. The vents and airducts are fine I think. I disassembled the laptop before and there wasn't many dust.

Also, what about a cooler. Do you recommend anything?
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QUOTE(JVector5 @ Jul 22 2013, 02:15 PM)
To buy some thermal paste is Rm25 for Silver Artic right? That's what I saw. The vents and airducts are fine I think. I disassembled the laptop before and there wasn't many dust.

Also, what about a cooler. Do you recommend anything?
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yeap sounds about right, don't overuse the paste and it will last a few applications

I don't know much about laptop coolers but I fancy those that that go underneath with a huge fan blowing upwards

e.g

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but if the laptop sort of needs these items to stay alive then it really has lost the portability status

so most important thing is to try and re-vamp the laptop back to its original cooling state and only use these when gaming

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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 22 2013, 03:45 PM)
yeap sounds about right, don't overuse the paste and it will last a few applications

I don't know much about laptop coolers but I fancy those that that go underneath with a huge fan blowing upwards

e.g

user posted image

but if the laptop sort of needs these items to stay alive then it really has lost the portability status

so most important thing is to try and re-vamp the laptop back to its original cooling state and only use these when gaming
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Thanks for the advice. Sorry for the late reply.
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