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TSinfrasonic
post Jul 20 2013, 03:59 PM, updated 13y ago

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i want to add another wall socket in my room. already got 1 socket in the room and i want to add another one beside it
what i want to know is whether can i just connect another wire from the old socket to my new socket?
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post Jul 20 2013, 04:02 PM

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why not, most double socket in the wall also come from 1 set of wire..
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 20 2013, 04:02 PM)
why not, most double socket in the wall also come from 1 set of wire..
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really?
the actual way to do it is have to connect the wire all the way from the box there right?
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:15 PM)
really?
the actual way to do it is have to connect the wire all the way from the box there right?
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if that is high current socket like heater/AC/washing machine probably.. but if just normal appliance.. why not?
lucifah mintak your input.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:17 PM

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lick the cable to check or energized or not
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:19 PM

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Get electrician.
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
i want to add another wall socket in my room. already got 1 socket in the room and i want to add another one beside it
what i want to know is whether can i just connect another wire from the old socket to my new socket?
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yes, for light duty appliances only, charger, laptop/pc etc..
not recommended for heater/air cond/electeic kettle/ oven/ microwave/
TSinfrasonic
post Jul 20 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:16 PM)
if that is high current socket like heater/AC/washing machine probably.. but if just normal appliance.. why not?
lucifah mintak your input..  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hakimi90 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:21 PM)
yes, for light duty  appliances only, charger, laptop/pc  etc..
not recommended for heater/air cond/electeic kettle/ oven/ microwave/
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kk thanks!

QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 20 2013, 05:19 PM)
Get electrician.
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one 1 socket only no need electrician la lol..even if call electrician they also might do the same thing
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:25 PM

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sure can. just a 4 sockets extension better. as long as total loading less than 13ampere

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post Jul 20 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:25 PM)
kk thanks!
one 1 socket only no need electrician la lol..even if call electrician they also might do the same thing
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If you got wirings, open exisiting cover and follow.

You need to hack/drill also anyway.

Just let them do for RM30.

Wiring need to buy calculate based on per meter.
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:16 PM)
if that is high current socket like heater/AC/washing machine probably.. but if just normal appliance.. why not?
lucifah mintak your input..  biggrin.gif
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can. no prob. loop as many you want or need. you've seen people use 4-gangs extension wire no problem one rite? same theory

washing machine is not high current one

heater perhaps

AC only when the compressor is starting, the amp will spike for a while


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post Jul 20 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 20 2013, 05:28 PM)
If you got wirings, open exisiting cover and follow.

You need to hack/drill also anyway.

Just let them do for RM30.

Wiring need to buy calculate based on per meter.
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no need hack la. just buy a surface mounted box and drill it into the wall

rm30? LOL. materials alone will cost half of that liao. they'll charge you rm 80 if they are kind.
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 20 2013, 05:28 PM)
If you got wirings, open exisiting cover and follow.

You need to hack/drill also anyway.

Just let them do for RM30.

Wiring need to buy calculate based on per meter.
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lol whr got so cheap? last time i remember i extend socket also rm140 for 2..but quite far la, around 3 meters away, but he also use same wire only i think
i just attach the socket beside the existing socket,wiring 1 meter is more than enuf dy right? XD
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:15 PM)
really?
the actual way to do it is have to connect the wire all the way from the box there right?
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u didnt learn anything from Kemahiran Hidup?
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:38 PM

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post Jul 20 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 20 2013, 05:33 PM)
no need hack la. just buy a surface mounted box and drill it into the wall

rm30? LOL. materials alone will cost half of that liao. they'll charge you rm 80 if they are kind.
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so is no problem la? is that how all the extensions work? the one like dis
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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:36 PM)
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u didnt learn anything from Kemahiran Hidup?
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kh where got these things rclxub.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
so is no problem la? is that how all the extensions work? the one like dis
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Ya,,,, my electrical engineer fren said they only teach this in B.Eng level laugh.gif
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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
so is no problem la? is that how all the extensions work? the one like dis
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haiya. actually wall socket all come from 1 wire. i usually extend my home's wall sockets by myself. quite easy actually.

those direct to fuse box pon ada org buat. more for safety reasons. and more applicable for appliances that need more fuse amp like aircond, water heaters etc.
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post Jul 20 2013, 05:43 PM

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oh btw, make sure to buy good 100% copper wires. not those salut copper only.
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
so is no problem la? is that how all the extensions work? the one like dis
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same analogy with how a kancil and a merc works

both brings you from point A to point B

but one is safer than the other laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:42 PM)
haiya. actually wall socket all come from 1 wire. i usually extend my home's wall sockets by myself. quite easy actually.

those direct to fuse box pon ada org buat. more for safety reasons. and more applicable for appliances that need more fuse amp like aircond, water heaters etc.
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typical 1-phase power outlet will have at least 3 wires - LIVE, NEUTRAL & EARTH

the power outlet current draw dictates the size of the wire needed

a 3-phase socket will need 4 wire, a RED-, YELLOW-, BLUE- lines and a neutral line, hence it is always called TPN (Three Phase - Neutral) socket
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post Jul 20 2013, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Jul 20 2013, 05:43 PM)
oh btw, make sure to buy good 100% copper wires. not those salut copper only.
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scratch the bare metal wire and see what is underneath the copper color

most of the time, experienced electrician will know just by checking the weight. copper is quite dense, if compared to alumnium
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post Jul 20 2013, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 20 2013, 06:15 PM)
scratch the bare metal wire and see what is underneath the copper color

most of the time, experienced electrician will know just by checking the weight. copper is quite dense, if compared to alumnium
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normally i buy those fajar brand 3C wire for porject.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
so is no problem la? is that how all the extensions work? the one like dis
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not recommended any port exceed 4 for extension plug
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 20 2013, 06:13 PM)
ini pandai punya worang

typical 1-phase power outlet will have at least 3 wires - LIVE, NEUTRAL & EARTH

the power outlet current draw dictates the size of the wire needed

a 3-phase socket will need 4 wire, a RED-, YELLOW-, BLUE- lines and a neutral line, hence it is always called TPN (Three Phase - Neutral) socket
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lol mention till industrial socket wiring pulak
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post Jul 20 2013, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Jul 20 2013, 08:35 PM)
not recommended any port exceed 4 for extension plug
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why?? if extension sendiri using wire for the wall socket also can't exceed 4 plugs?
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post Jul 20 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 20 2013, 08:46 PM)
why?? if extension sendiri using wire for the wall socket also can't exceed 4 plugs?
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Q3    How many tap-off units are allowed on the track at any one time to tap power from the track?
A3    The number of tap-off units is dependent on the total load current consumed at that point of time rather than the absolute number of tap-off units connected. Maximum load current available on the system is subjected to the rating of the MCB at the Distribution Board supplying to the final sub-circuit. In practice, the track can accommodate up to 12x adaptors or 18x plugs per metre run. Ratio of adaptor to plug is 2:3.

this should answer it.. it's not the socket but rather the power/current used..per point
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