BTW just tested, aceR Mino lost to Gandring as starter & aceR DZ can tank acer Odin def20 att.

today, damn meet 3X Gandring as starter, my mino failed badly.
i start to learn DZ is damn good card if u place him right place....even can tank alm succ att! insane.
DZ is keeper dun sell ....

starting next coli, i think starter will be mainly gandring ...so sonic will be upper hand. havent test sonic selkie vs sonic gandring .. my guess gand will win.

more finding....iblis scratch s damn damn pow & fast...so keep it as SD/MR/SAP ...it is pretty darn good.

yeah SD is 90% work on NB/Andro ....& also alm dagon will 100% 2nd hit on these 2 card too .... (too slow & SD magnet!)


at 1 time, thud of getting def20 odin ....but only just for alm succ ...now alm succ seldom as starter...play hide/seek. So def-20 still much better ....
imagine ...DZ can block def20 odin att....u will fell from ur chair lol...

This post has been edited by jkleejk: Sep 23 2013, 10:08 AM

not forgetting alm bold morrig & alm wise golbez. ...i still hv alm bold s bird around. Not forgetting almighty bold poseidon ...can tank gandring QS att, but fast enough to move 1st to kill gandring 1st.
i just traded away alm sonic barb ...

today i clean my DZ dust & place in my deck, suprisingly damn it is v good....tank so many thing....odin,dt, succ, gandring (w/out QS) ;;;;

OS ...no need to mention, it is must have card in elite coli, v good card. same good for DD...

selkie is god like now especially sonic selkie....

replace MR with phy4 for iblis works wonder! normally can ohko 2 card! ...SD works wonder this round ....

dunno y now S rank in Elite Coli is 150 above...i hope this is not for primal alm card only...difficult to get S rank this way...

i miss old days, which deck arrangement v crucial, now all gamble deck.
so did u test out my deck in coli?

so this mean actually SE do 2 same "Elite" coli for Alm primal cards....dunno y they do this. rather the old ranking rules.

lol, sometimes with newer card also lost, if all my gamble cards failed & urs success, u also won.

alm LoC is purely for phy tanking.
It can tank alm succ att though w/out LS. So if u place it correct position, it will shine.
nowadays getting more phy att cards, this card has its hidden value.
anyway aceR DZ is the best overall phy/wis tanker.

only ded & bumperbee is useful

Odin as starter are total gone case ...due to sonic gandring/ alm Succ...cant even tank those. At least aceR Odin def20 ...

Now best starter are:
1. sonic gandring
2. sonic selkie
3. Alm Bold/Sonic Succ (not zerk type too slow)
4. AceR Mino
5. Alm Sonic SE (wis built)
6. Sonic Iblis

Top 3 for me are ....Alm Succ, Alm SE & Sonic Gand.

Try to put fastest card at 1st....

Ur Carm no MR total useless....

Ur deck card are a bit outdated .....cant really get S rank in Elite IMO, except u wanna burn ur FP.

Anyway i give u some deck arrangement suggestion

1. aceR selkie (u need sonic selkie) or mino or alm sonic barb or alm succ **** u need to judge ur opponent starter card
2. IQ
3. Odin
4. Alm Barb
5. Morrig
6. aceR/Sonic SE (wis built)
7. NB
8. Alm Juggy
9. Alm Dagon
0. OS

U need more QS card, to avoid kena tapao by Dagon....sell off ur NB, Andro, Bold Gand, alm zerk succ (get bold zerk+toppers for those noob player) RB ur sonic DD (or hook for better card offer after coli)....dun think u can get ur Alm this week with ur deck option (>150 rank somemore....v v tough)

card u must get to stay alive in S rank elite coli
1. Sonic Selkie
2. Alm Bold/Sonic Succ
3. Alm Sonic SE
4. Sonic Gandring
5. Sonic IBlis
6. AceR SE (wis built)
7. AceR/ Sonic DD
8. Sonic Odin
9. aceR/ Sonic Carm (with MR plz)

Good luck bro

This post has been edited by jkleejk: Sep 28 2013, 08:11 PM

u can always PM 1st, if u are not sure on ur trade. i only care for coli performance cards, i dun care bout hype card.

>Alm Sonic SE is good to counter, sonic gand, juggy, sonic/aceR Selkie & aceR/sonic Iblis, but only lost to Alm Succ.
>Sonic Gand can beat all Alm Succ, Sonic/AceR Selkie & lost to Iblis/Alm Sonic SE

BTW, dont overpay on the DD; it is good but it wont cost for >2 good new aceR IMO.

Now ideal best deck card will be as following
1. Alm Bold Succ (2nd best Alm)
2. Alm Sonic SE/ zerk Juggy (depend on situation to use)
3. Alm Dagon (best Alm)
4. Sonic Iblis (remove MR, phy4 is a must)
5. Sonic Selkie (water4)
6. Sonic Gandring (remove FB, agi20 is a must)
7. AceR Morrig (elem4 only)
8. AceR/Sonic DD
9. AceR OS
10. AceR SE (wis built) /AceR Carm /Sonic Marcho

***dun waste ur bullet to get other alm ....those performance is not stable....myself like Alm Bold Pos & Alm Wise RB & Alm Sonic H-Nix.

All above are QSers only....now it is SAP/QSers era .....of course ...DS is losing its value fast. SO i recommend u to get rid all ur DSers...especially IQ

Only some cards are good as a bench to change a bit ur deck strategy as following:
1. AceR DZ (this card rocks, can tank phy4/wis att v v well)
2. AceR Mino (can tank Alm Succ, sometimes odin, marcho att)


This post has been edited by jkleejk: Sep 28 2013, 10:24 PM

for abba, wise type is much better. i still 1 wise abba
selkie not really glass cannon IMO....anyway selkie is good due its higher agi.
thus abba as starter will be gone case....although ur sap success, sonic gandring still can move & iron fist kill u.
Due abba agi is much slower, selkie & iblis will sap 1st...
abba is out from elite coli league...

FFV gilga is still better than Abba, mainly for alm succ counter ....then rest ...not really useful. only LS is good & fit in elite is DD, Morri & OS

Is it Neo card, dark card? like dark LL ?

lol, lottery! alm sonic h-nix pretty good ...alm sonic dom is long outdated!

yeah neo nix is not bad. skill set: QS/REV/GS will be nice, macam aceR DD ...lol only no LS ...

yeah good alm old card are sonic h-nix, so do alm wise RB.

if got GS, pow is not a bad type IMO.

agree with bro fallen, i will opt for agi25.
many ppl said att pow will enhance GS. but so far not really obvious. Normally for bold alm DD, with high HP. It can survive to kill 2nd time. So agi25 is v critical here.