And in dugeon quest if you happen to face that gold slime (wild guardian), 1 of them will give u 1000GP and 2 of them will give u 2000GP. How good was that hahaha.

Beside, that shadow LL cast chain lightning and done 13074 demage on my RB Abba..... how great was that. I still think the most hard to fight shadow guardian was LL!!! U need gigan smash on him. And death +4 rate on him is so low. May be 2 out of 10 times.

Gandring should be QS, Phy+3, AGI+20, Phy+4, WIS+20 and FullBarier (After RB) with 4.3K HP, 3.9K MP, 4.8K ATK, 3.6K DEF, 4.3K AGI and 3.6K WIS (Acer). Check gccards japan version. Got all the stats ady.

Ilbis is the Joker is it? That fellow is the most unique card among the new one. SAP, darkness+3, Phy+4, SD, Darkness+4 and Confuse (RB skill). And he has 4.2K HP, 6.4K MP, 4.6K ATK, 4K DEF, 4.3K AGI and 4.3K WIS. Most all rounded.

Beside, anyone know what is the name for that new earth lady card? I think she is the hidden gem for this round.

FB + 4.7K HP and if you teach her with Counter, i think she will be tough for ele atker....

This post has been edited by cvshi515: Sep 18 2013, 09:19 AM

Stuck? your is ACER DD worr, ady RB where got stuck ler? If not RB, just use rainbow slime to RB it la hehe.

Hehe, i only got experience on might poseidon (mine is wise build). With his speed (4.4K), GS and Mecha+4, he definately a good card for veteran. Even though he is WISE, but GS will give him 6K damage if successfull. Which make him a dual blade killer to counter those Evader (IQ and Lilith), FB (Andro and NB) and best mecha card like DT with his GS. On the other hand, his high WIS can OHKO many phy atker with Mecha +4.

If i were resourceful enough, I would have get a Sonic build to secure 2 cards kill.

On top of that, i would agree that GS become a trend since it can counter those annoying skills even though it is a gambling skill. Beside, i have never seen a GS being counter before hahaha.

With that said, any card with QS + GS or GS + LS would be great since they can secure 1 kill even if GS failed.... hmmm i am imagining a sonic Morri with GS!!!

Note: Success GS = ATK*2, Failed GS = ATK/2 and add buff after that formula.

Bro jkleejk, I am sort agree with bro justanovice. Own both of them!!

But based on assessment, a wise ALM RQ Banshee may not be able to kill the FullBarier guardians (if SAP failed). And with 3.7K AGI, she may not be able to cast a second hit after revive.

Again, depends on which skill you need for your deck. With AceR Selkie, you may not need another SAPer.

Hehe, and I am also a speed lover. ALM Sonic Poseidon has 5.4Agi!!! Dual blades killer!! That is one of my dream card wakakak.

Oh, you may want to keep ALM RQ Banshee for her artwork .

Beside, anyone has an ALM Cool Succ? Wanted to venture into Elite. Since I cant afford a good type selkie, i think an ALM Cool Succ is still a good started and can counter beserk Succ wakakaka.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: Sep 18 2013, 10:53 AM

Any big bro here has an Alm succ or jugg which is not using? Thinking to get a cool type as a starter for my deck. Trying to build something that I can use for elite coli hehe.

Beside, anyone know what is the value for a chaotic A.Beast? Caught one and saw that Alm bold A.Beast has 7200HP!

Har?? Still got HOT? On Andriod is it? And yes, that ALM Jugg is insane. You need all QS, SD and SAP card in order to fight it.

Hmm, this week im in Elite and I am just wondering what cards do you guys to use as starter to counter those ALM Succ, ALM Jugg and Selkie.

As of now, I tried to use Mighty erotic Jugg or Abba. But most of the time, I am actually gambling on it. In addition, just wondering if it would make sense for me to lvl up my ALM Dagon to be competitive in Elite .

My lineup
Migthy Erotic Jugg
AceR Hnix
Acer SE (Phy build)
Alm Sonic Lamia
Sonic Minotaur
AceR Morri (Fire +4)
AceR Marcho
AceR Abba
Sonic Odin
Alm Wise V Specter

Bench
AceR Gandharva
Mighty Wise Poseidon
Wise Lilith
Alm Dagon (low level)
Mighty Dagon (lvl 60)

Thanks bro jk. I remembered you said to kept earth+1, fire+1 and Revive. Is that the right way to build him?

Just to add on, which card do you recon I should repalce out from my line up? Hehe, im not greedy, just aiming to be able to win Elite A+ consistantly.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: Sep 20 2013, 04:00 PM

Hmm is Gandring a good starter? What if meet with Selkie? Kena sap, can his iron fist finish off Selkie ar? Beside, sap move first or full barrier?

I have ard 30+ stones to chip in. Let me know if u need it.

Just curious. What kind of deck require to get into rank s in elite coli?

Hmmm okay. Do u mind to list the top 15 for now? Trying so hard and still can't hit into elite A+ or S

Thanks bro. Too bad I only using 5 of them... Sonic Odin, Ace Andro (loan), Sonic Mino (not too good), Ace Morri (Loan) and Ace Marcho.

As for the bother, I can only rely on Mighty erotic jugg, Sonic Alm Lamia and leveling Alm Dagon.

Bro jkleejk, as for Gandring, should I go for AGI +20 or leave him as lvl69.

Okay, this is what I see. Once Gandring became starter, Odin and Alm Barbie will be the counter. Even Gandring QS is strong, but Odin and Alm Baribie is faster than him somemore Alm Barbie can evade. So those Sonic/Ace Odin and Sonic/bold Barbie will valuable again.

Bro jkleejk, I suspect Bold SBird would be a good starter also since he can tank and faster than Gandring. May be you can try out.

As for DZ, he was the hidden gems back then in KC2. My Sonic Odin can never OHKO him (i think could be ace or bold) once he EP on Odin. The only challenge is his speed. ALM Dagon could also kill DZ with fire+1 i believe. Not to mention Dagon may be able to move 2nd time if i time not enof to kill (non Ace/Sonic DZ perhaps).

Haha, yeah. Bottomline, it is easier to counter Gandring with other cards as compared to Selkie. Sonic Selkie is still the best until ALM Sonic Selkie come. Beside, Gandring cannot OHKO LOC. That fellow skin too tough to get through using physical atk. Sonic Selkie with Darkness +4 will be the best hahaha.

Bro NightHeart, hehe she is still great for my lvl (this week only can hit A+ in elite with quite some loaner and spam around 400FP). Yet, in general, it is not easy to counter her (with SAP and high Agi) other than using those ALM with super QS.

As for OS, she is limitted (I don't even own a normal type like cool ). And I believe she is a must have card in Elite also. Since Morri is still useful for now, OS should be better one as you mentioned.


Guys... take a look into GCcards japan version. Seems like they are revising all those old cards to "New skills"!! Black bordered somemore. Dunno whether it is limitted or what.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: Sep 23 2013, 12:43 PM

Any idea what's with the black bordered berneside? I wonder if there is some special RB card like the slime that give the new skill. Hehe my Levi will be useful if that is tha case.

GS formula is actually base atk x2 + (base atk * buff%).

The number guardian per hunt? It really depends on ur form and luck. The average i can get 10-12 guardian from nite berneside from NHT , when on form and luck, my max hunt can go up to 22 guardian with a few +10sec and some sleeping guardians.

As for SHT, I can only get 8 guardians in average, max i think it was 13 but all 3*.....