Wuah, so geng chao ah lolx

alm LoC is purely for phy tanking.
It can tank alm succ att though w/out LS. So if u place it correct position, it will shine.
nowadays getting more phy att cards, this card has its hidden value.
anyway aceR DZ is the best overall phy/wis tanker.

only ded & bumperbee is useful

This round met jkleejk78 and kena tapau with your 2 card standing
My deck seems totally out of sync, can give some arrangement advise? I know now no perfect deck geh but this arrangement seldom get even 2 wins.

1) acer odin (-20def)
2) acer morri
3) acer os
4) acer selkie
5) acer carm (without MR lol)
6) alm sonic barb
7) alm sonic lamia
8) alm dagon
9) acer iq
10) acer mino

Best Bencher:
Acer andro, dt, nb, alm zerk succ, alm zerk jugg
Not fit for bench:
Bold gandring lvl69 clean, fast dd lvl60 x2 (tempted to see how good alm dd will be)

My miskilled ALM sonic v.spec for wise andro.
Ok ma?

This post has been edited by vng69: Sep 28 2013, 06:25 PM

Trade, if I'm not mistaken your V Specter is very miss-skilled.

I still don't believe in tanking till this date. SE tries really hard but still.....it's been disappointing.

LOL bumperbee....
They generally look okay la, all of them got decent agi & damage. The bumblebee is the only slow one but apparently the people's favourite one so far.

I like Dez Moroz & Impundulu.

I forgot how those new skills work de so can't judge Angra Mainyu & Titania.

Can't help you there, I'm wayyyyy below that level. The only Ace I had was a Behemoth which I got 1 day ago, got instantly traded for a Chaotic DD.

Odin as starter are total gone case ...due to sonic gandring/ alm Succ...cant even tank those. At least aceR Odin def20 ...

Now best starter are:
1. sonic gandring
2. sonic selkie
3. Alm Bold/Sonic Succ (not zerk type too slow)
4. AceR Mino
5. Alm Sonic SE (wis built)
6. Sonic Iblis

Top 3 for me are ....Alm Succ, Alm SE & Sonic Gand.

Try to put fastest card at 1st....

Ur Carm no MR total useless....

Ur deck card are a bit outdated .....cant really get S rank in Elite IMO, except u wanna burn ur FP.

Anyway i give u some deck arrangement suggestion

1. aceR selkie (u need sonic selkie) or mino or alm sonic barb or alm succ **** u need to judge ur opponent starter card
2. IQ
3. Odin
4. Alm Barb
5. Morrig
6. aceR/Sonic SE (wis built)
7. NB
8. Alm Juggy
9. Alm Dagon
0. OS

U need more QS card, to avoid kena tapao by Dagon....sell off ur NB, Andro, Bold Gand, alm zerk succ (get bold zerk+toppers for those noob player) RB ur sonic DD (or hook for better card offer after coli)....dun think u can get ur Alm this week with ur deck option (>150 rank somemore....v v tough)

card u must get to stay alive in S rank elite coli
1. Sonic Selkie
2. Alm Bold/Sonic Succ
3. Alm Sonic SE
4. Sonic Gandring
5. Sonic IBlis
6. AceR SE (wis built)
7. AceR/ Sonic DD
8. Sonic Odin
9. aceR/ Sonic Carm (with MR plz)

Good luck bro

This post has been edited by jkleejk: Sep 28 2013, 08:11 PM

Wow you got a chaotic DD with acer behe? What a steal!


Thanks for detail analysis! No wonder i am struggling to win even at rank 250-ish.. This time really GG already

I got highball trying to find a rb partner for my fast gandring. Darnz
Alm SE is good, as in top 3 alm ?
I feel alm jugg and succ a bit slow and really bring down the deck performance :s
And shucks. I traded my sonic odin + acer morri for a fast DD and now left with 2 acer odin (def buff and debuff apiece)
So now really GG lol

Woah, I want the Sonic Odin for my Chaotic DD lol. I'm stuck with Bold Odin here >_<

u can always PM 1st, if u are not sure on ur trade. i only care for coli performance cards, i dun care bout hype card.

>Alm Sonic SE is good to counter, sonic gand, juggy, sonic/aceR Selkie & aceR/sonic Iblis, but only lost to Alm Succ.
>Sonic Gand can beat all Alm Succ, Sonic/AceR Selkie & lost to Iblis/Alm Sonic SE

BTW, dont overpay on the DD; it is good but it wont cost for >2 good new aceR IMO.

Now ideal best deck card will be as following
1. Alm Bold Succ (2nd best Alm)
2. Alm Sonic SE/ zerk Juggy (depend on situation to use)
3. Alm Dagon (best Alm)
4. Sonic Iblis (remove MR, phy4 is a must)
5. Sonic Selkie (water4)
6. Sonic Gandring (remove FB, agi20 is a must)
7. AceR Morrig (elem4 only)
8. AceR/Sonic DD
9. AceR OS
10. AceR SE (wis built) /AceR Carm /Sonic Marcho

***dun waste ur bullet to get other alm ....those performance is not stable....myself like Alm Bold Pos & Alm Wise RB & Alm Sonic H-Nix.

All above are QSers only....now it is SAP/QSers era .....of course ...DS is losing its value fast. SO i recommend u to get rid all ur DSers...especially IQ

Only some cards are good as a bench to change a bit ur deck strategy as following:
1. AceR DZ (this card rocks, can tank phy4/wis att v v well)
2. AceR Mino (can tank Alm Succ, sometimes odin, marcho att)


This post has been edited by jkleejk: Sep 28 2013, 10:24 PM

Haha.. I got a fast DD already long time ago, and am dying to make a sonic DD (faster than any acer) thats why just go and overpay
I have a feeling alm bold DD might be best type if they boost enough Hp. Since he is already quite fast.

I have spoken to all fast gandring owner. All minimum c/o is acer DT. I know DT value is low now but i'm not gonna overpay that much

Aye on your analysis. I will try to tidy up my deck huahaha. Trading time!

So for starter, what would be the best price/performance ratio? My zerk succ not doing well as starter and I don't have other cards to fill that slot.

http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-WTS-...ht=sonic+selkie

Trade kings, I need your advise what's the value like for this fella? in terms of stones.

This post has been edited by celciuz: Sep 29 2013, 12:08 AM

I'm not trade king, anyway the value in stone iii are messy now. Someone selling ace ab at 115 iii, i saw ace chary sold at 70 iii ?
Better pm the guy, ask the C/o and b/o or expectation.
For popular cards, usually i will pm them and ask the current best offer, then i'll see if i wanna offer something greater.

I want FFIV series guardian...............

I also want.. Lol.. Till now only got 1 card in catalog

Btw bro jk i finally got my other fast gandring, now can rb... Overpay as well but well, dont care la. Ha ha

Someone from the Stormreach Snowfield (Night) will be a better version of Selkie. Dez Moroz I think, so Selkie price will drop by then a little.
I still don't know why Selkie is that good, aside from being a glass canon. After putting Abaddon as starter, I'm starting to like starting the battle with Sap. But Abaddon lacking in KO power, so I guess that's where Selkie shine.

I put FFV Gilgamesh as starter lol. So even if enemy else starts first, I can pray for last stand to activate heh.

What did you trade for your fast Gandring btw?

for abba, wise type is much better. i still 1 wise abba
selkie not really glass cannon IMO....anyway selkie is good due its higher agi.
thus abba as starter will be gone case....although ur sap success, sonic gandring still can move & iron fist kill u.
Due abba agi is much slower, selkie & iblis will sap 1st...
abba is out from elite coli league...

FFV gilga is still better than Abba, mainly for alm succ counter ....then rest ...not really useful. only LS is good & fit in elite is DD, Morri & OS

Yea I know Abaddon is totally out for Elite because of his speed. But I've been enjoying using it to as starter past 2 weeks cause many people put Dagon as starter, so funny to see a Sapped Dagon lol.

My FFV Gilgamesh is Ironfist style, so good for starter sometimes haha. But when reach higher level, his Alm scratch can't KO the stronger starters de.

BTW, any Japanese GC players can confirm if the Neo Berneside Plains (Day) guardian can reborn with the old Berneside Plains (Day) guardian? Wanna prepare to stock up if possible.