i try maya and max...but i dont compare the 3d thing that i made since the products depend on me, not the software...for me the different between each 3d modelling tools is the workflow...i found out maya interface and tools for modelling is simpler to access that max(that using modifier)...but max is for me since i learn it alot already(dun wan to learn new interface again)...oh yea,3ds max 5 crash alot on my system...