Dude, can't a man learn? Do you really have to post me out as a newbie and taint my image? Let me describe the situation from my side.

First of all, you told me the process wouldn't be so fast as usual, so I assume that I will receive it about an hour or two later.
Yes,I have seek advise from friends whether I can send the package first or not, because I am afraid that you will have to wait for too long, but they told me otherwise.

Then I promptly e-mailed you that I haven't receive it yet, and there you go, you exploded in anger. If you are telling me you are not angry, you wouldn't be sending me 4-5 e-mails raging how inexperienced I am and how you wouldn't want to trade with me in the future because you don't trust me at all.

If you don't want to deal anything with me, it's fine. Okay? I've sent the pack.

Your too slow with your respond. I'm not exploding either. I have experiences to see you are doubting me. Who wants to be doubted when they want the game so badly? Did you properly prospect around my post counts and stuff? Please DOUBLE CHECK the bank-in slip and trace anything you can from there. If you think that's a fake slip, you can offend those serious gamers. I want the game means I pay it for the instance.

It's easy to determine that person on the line is mysterious , suspicious etc. You need to learn more. I don't like being feel offended. That's all.

And go check how the bank transaction works first.

I've replied that I will send immediately upon receiving payment. Honestly, I felt that you were impatient by telling me to send ASAP, and I was wondering why was your slip cropped out. Like I said, I have given an hour or two for the payment process to get through, because you told me it wouldn't be so fast.

I don't really want to argue about how post count actually reflects trade reputation. And yes, I've glimpsed through your profile which doesn't prove you're involved in trading of any kind, or maybe I missed it.

I do not want to offend you or start a quarrel of any kind. But scolding me stuff like untrustable, newbie, inexperience is just downright hurtful.

So, I'm sorry if this whole process is bothering you, but I will stop replying you here to avoid further arguments. And I'd thank you for trading with me.

Hahaha. I cropped so my own details won't be revealed and it showed the transaction instead... Duh!!!


Any Payday 2 4-packs yet? Maybe a Borderlands 2 also can?

I'd do the same if I were you. Game will be sent only after payment confirmed received in account. No amount of payslip screenshots can convince me otherwise.

I started a 4-pack recently in this thread and had some minor hiccups due to miscommunication with buyer. The transaction was delayed but luckily all of my buyers were understanding and good chaps.

+1 support for you for being civil.

There is a point though. Who would cheat RM7 when their trade profile is good? Especially in Steam where you can easily mark a trade as a scam that could lead to that person being downgraded in whatever Steam trading community?

got extra copy of trine complete story. pm me if you want. RM7

SOLD

Thanks for the support

Honestly, I wouldn't want to deal with him anymore based on what I have been through and the defamation by him
Based on my experience in Garage Sale, the seller also shipped the item after he received the payment about a day or two through interbanking. Maybe next time I will state out this rule before proceeding with the trade.

A good proven trade profile has this logo: . I think post counts doesn't mean everything.

I don't mean post counts. Do you even know about SteamRep/SteamTrades etc? No one would risk scamming on Steam (especially if their Steam Library is that decorated) for RM7.

The Safe Trader is only for people who sell stuff, not the buyer!!! By logic that would mean that no one should trust you unless you have the Safe Trader tag.

This post has been edited by pikachu01: Jul 26 2013, 08:12 AM

I was the one who asked to stop trading with you. AND I am not very eager to play the game too. You did not know bank needs 1 to 3 days of transaction? If you do not know, don't even bother.

Do you think they "support" you? Man your still a fresh bold person in forums. I don't want to say much. Speak for your nerdy statements, oops.

Safe trader? Lol... You can't cease to let me laugh at you. Seriously good luck with your "trading". Look at my signature. Does that proof I'm far more trustable than you? No post counts visibility.

Two post... Better you stop reply lol.

You know when a lesser being is at its losing end, they defend. I'll let it. I'm not defaming but rather pissed off by the way he indirectly offended my credibility of a buyer.

Let's say example:
A sells 4-Pack.
B wants it and will bank-in with a screenshot of the slip with "REFERENCES". Enough to sue if the person is a scammer.
A thinks B didn't bank-in and never double checked the photo obviously before asking.
B is disappointed with the A's mindset and dealing as it makes him think I won't pay RM7.
B tries to expose experience of dealing particular user or nicks and is not defaming.
A thinks rather a lot of funny statements.
B still rather calm despite all that.

So this is the similar case. If you think I never bank in to you, just say so. I have 63 games? Lol... Why would I scam you when I spent hundreds. This is b***s***!

Trine first series? I would want also. Oh dang... Too late!

lol..someone on period.

whats so hard to understand? seller waits for cash to be in his bank first before sending the item. that is pretty standard procedure for any online transaction..unless u knew each other..thats different case lah..

aaanyway..nothing beats early morning drama lol..thanks!

First of all, I'm just taking precautionary steps which is practiced in every trade. Do you ever see a seller shipping an item before they confirm they received the payment? Geesh man, and you thought I don't trust you?
You and your twisted logic.

You don't have a Safe Trader tag. You could be very well scamming his RM 7. Just saying what's fair. To do business, you gotta have that little bit of trust and do some research before doing a business. No one likes doing business with a green horn.

Standard Procedure. Yeah sure. But the problem is your mail speak of twice of the payment as if I never banked-in.

WHAT is the purpose of me screenshot the details then? Do you even read it? Attached files? Ok no twisted logic.

But one thing for sure, you think every bank can transfer the fund as fast as you expect?

I'm not the one making the bank system you know? Usually it takes within 3 days or below. If you understand, you would feel obliged to send me beforehand in a way you TRUST me. You don't. You can defend whatever you like.



@chrommed Nah. In this case, I just realized his a new seller. Of course I would want to signify something here. I bought with other sellers almost less than 10% of miscommunication and problem. Just to clarify.

kelakarnye gado sebab 7 inggit. benda kecik jdkan besa, i dunno who's the kid here.

Exactly. Example "I would feel you got the RM7 already from that "farkingdom" but he still demand another RM7?" I would be SCAMMED instead!!! Don't fool me as I'm experienced. I have over 63 games... Oh god.

pikachu01 is understanding enough. Thank you.

I don't see this problem with veterans of trading as they profit from whatever they do. But newbies usually tend to give me a pain in the toot.

@am3rr Not about being kid or not. I feel offended for being a long time buyer from Steam. RM7 is small issue but I have given a bank-in proof back in last thread. I bet he never read it before delaying the gift.

This post has been edited by sniperz: Jul 26 2013, 08:43 AM

Cool down guys, while I believe sniperz has his point, but the seller needs to have precautions too. With such a large number of scamming going on online, one just need to be on the better safe than sorry side.